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wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2461
On March 09 2013 00:52 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 00:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
Not a balance whine, and I really don't have experience with HoTS.

There does seem to be a lot of 'terrible damage' in certain ways. 14 kill widow mine, 25 kill oracles and stuff that I've seen today. Is this just the players getting used to the game or is this quite commonplace?


commonplace, because many people are inexperienced with all the new stuff. Terrible damage stuff is important though, unless you want tons of slow death games. Makes the game a ton harder though.


Personally prefer the more consistent damage in BW. Its interesting because the "terrible damage" ends up making the game less accesible to new players - the opposite of what the dev team claimed to be doing.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2462
On March 09 2013 00:54 Archybaldie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 00:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
Not a balance whine, and I really don't have experience with HoTS.

There does seem to be a lot of 'terrible damage' in certain ways. 14 kill widow mine, 25 kill oracles and stuff that I've seen today. Is this just the players getting used to the game or is this quite commonplace?



Banshees at the start of wings of liberty would get 15-25 kills all the time. Then people learned the timings ... learned how to defend it etc at that point getting 5-6 kills was concidered very good for a banshee.

It's not so much that they get that amount of worker kills, but that it's close to instantaneous.

Anyway yeah, MVP is looking really potent, I don't even think Mana played that badly but MVP pulled him apart.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Glubschauge
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria1216 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2463
On March 09 2013 00:56 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 00:54 Kasaraki wrote:
ToD having a dig at Morrow. <3


What did he say ?


something like

maybe even morrow can take some notes

^^
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2464
You need to knock out MVP during the game to win.
Added
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom40 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2465
That Code B micro/macro.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2466
MVP is back... Code B is gonna burn in hell.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2467
On March 09 2013 00:43 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 00:42 Bagi wrote:
On March 09 2013 00:37 Dingodile wrote:
On March 09 2013 00:33 blackone wrote:
On March 09 2013 00:30 Topin wrote:
yea! there was a moment when i thought that but then MVP dropping and atacking in three pplaces at the same time were a little too much for mana


He was playing sloppily before that point though. Most importantly, he was supply blocked, which meant that he couldn't warp-in to defend the drop at the main. He had to pull his army back and MVP instantly moved in to kill the third. That's just something that can't happen when you play against someone of this caliber.


Attacking in three place is a lot easier than defending in three places at the samw time.

How is it easier when you factor in the defenders advantage with stuff like warp-ins and nexus overcharges? Terran also needs to kite with each drop/army to get the most out of them.


Because the defender doesn't know in advance that he's going to get attacked in 3 places, while the attacker knows what to expect every time. Even when scouted it still isn't easy to split the exact right amount of army.

Of course there is the element of surprise, but scouting can help fight this. Overall I just disagree with this generalization of attacking being always easier than defending, its so dependent on the unit comps and how much attention they require from the player.
WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2468
MVP's sooooo good. The semi-finals should be better than that!
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2469
so now third tvp in a row now :D

yaaay.. i hope they know how to defend oracle and widow mines.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2470
The better player won, regardless of balance.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2471
MVP playing like MVP is still pretty scary. That was a vintage performance, perhaps part of the reason he fell off at the end of WoL was because he was playing too much HoTS.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#2472
On March 09 2013 00:55 Fragile51 wrote:
I hope we get a First vs Mvp finals. That'd be swell.


Why not YongHwa was mvp?
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
March 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#2473
Good news: MVP is awesome!!

Bad news: TvP looks just like WOL with some gimmicks
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
March 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#2474
So happy to see MVP dominating again.
I've never been a huge fan of him, but it just felt wrong to see him in his former shape,
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
March 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#2475
Lol MVP is gonna get terran nerfed again :D
King of Wings ftw!
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
March 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#2476
                   Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    Top 16    
---------------------------------------------------------------
PartinG 31.20% 22.08% 19.09% 27.63% 0.00%
viOLet 18.30% 18.52% 24.99% 38.19% 0.00%
Yonghwa 17.68% 18.16% 39.43% 24.73% 0.00%
Mvp 14.60% 20.88% 64.52% 0.00% 0.00%
First 11.72% 11.13% 15.35% 61.81% 0.00%
YoDa 5.78% 5.46% 16.38% 72.37% 0.00%
Ret 0.72% 3.78% 20.24% 75.27% 0.00%
MaNa 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 0.00%
Nerchio 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00%
Stephano 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00%
Sting 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00%
Dream 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00%
Estimated by Aligulac. Twitter.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
March 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#2477
our king is gonna end up getting them trollivacs nerfed before we are even able to try them, emergency patch inc.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
March 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#2478
On March 09 2013 00:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
Not a balance whine, and I really don't have experience with HoTS.

There does seem to be a lot of 'terrible damage' in certain ways. 14 kill widow mine, 25 kill oracles and stuff that I've seen today. Is this just the players getting used to the game or is this quite commonplace?


Blizzard stated that the make things a bit too powerful at the beginning so that they are being used at first and they get feedback. they feel more confident in nerfing than buffing.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
March 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#2479
Mvp this tournament so far:
13 - 2

what a beast...
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#2480
1/4 for IM

Let's do this shit Yoda :o
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