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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12033 Posts
March 08 2013 15:43 GMT
#2361
Those sunglasses O_O
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Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
March 08 2013 15:43 GMT
#2362
ROFL at the guy with sunglasses :D
hundred thousand krouner
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 08 2013 15:43 GMT
#2363
On March 09 2013 00:40 Sakkreth wrote:
Is widow mine really fine ?


yeah it just looks more op if you have god vision and think that the burrow actually makes them hidden. And Mana thought the harassment was over which was a big mistake.
Oracle basically does the same, when you attack and doesn't leave anything at home, the oracle can mess you up just as well.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
March 08 2013 15:43 GMT
#2364
Widow mines are so extremely punishing when you're getting multipronged because it's so easy to miss a mine or two that are burrowing.
Uni1987
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands642 Posts
March 08 2013 15:44 GMT
#2365
Harstem with attention deficit?
.............
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
March 08 2013 15:44 GMT
#2366
it really looks so broken it doesnt make the game entertaining. 1 mistake from toss and hes out. 10 mistakes from terran and he can get back into the game with 1 widow mine

User was temp banned for this post.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
March 08 2013 15:44 GMT
#2367
harstem looks like he jsut came from a party... Ôô
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 08 2013 15:44 GMT
#2368
Where are the "HotS TvP is same as in WoL" comments now?

Even though this could be handled differently and better, I like that we are not seeing standard WoL things.

I can't wait for new builds, the game keeps evolving every moment. ^^
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
March 08 2013 15:44 GMT
#2369
On March 09 2013 00:43 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 00:42 wangstra wrote:
where is the mvp boom pic?


Here


Thanks! >.>
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
March 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#2370
MVP doing well. I'm happy.
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Killcani
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden448 Posts
March 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#2371
I hope they can let terran have something awsome like widow mine without nerfing it like they did with everything that was good with terran in WoL
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
March 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#2372
On March 09 2013 00:41 CikaZombi wrote:
So many ways a good and smart Terran can always stay in the game and take a lead. It's like walking on the thinnest ice in the first 15 minutes.


lets not take into account this guy is considered the best terran of WOL and revolutionized the way the game was played multiple times and was known for his perfect, flawless and to the second execution of strategies and build orders.

vs mana : / (no offense)
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
March 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#2373
On March 09 2013 00:44 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
it really looks so broken it doesnt make the game entertaining. 1 mistake from toss and hes out. 10 mistakes from terran and he can get back into the game with 1 widow mine


dont see it like that.
one mistake like not emping all high templars can lose you the whole game, no matter how much supply you are ahead.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#2374
Guys, it's not terran that's broken, it's Mvp. ;o
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
March 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#2375
On March 09 2013 00:42 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 00:37 Dingodile wrote:
On March 09 2013 00:33 blackone wrote:
On March 09 2013 00:30 Topin wrote:
yea! there was a moment when i thought that but then MVP dropping and atacking in three pplaces at the same time were a little too much for mana


He was playing sloppily before that point though. Most importantly, he was supply blocked, which meant that he couldn't warp-in to defend the drop at the main. He had to pull his army back and MVP instantly moved in to kill the third. That's just something that can't happen when you play against someone of this caliber.


Attacking in three place is a lot easier than defending in three places at the samw time.

How is it easier when you factor in the defenders advantage with stuff like warp-ins and nexus overcharges? Terran also needs to kite with each drop/army to get the most out of them.


Because you plan to attack 3 places at the same time. The defender doesnt, out of the blue, prepare to defend 3 places at the same time......and defenders advantage is seriously overrated in SC2 imo.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 15:45:27
March 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#2376
On March 09 2013 00:41 dinosrwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 00:40 Sakkreth wrote:
Is widow mine really fine ?


Yes. Mana just derped. He knew there was a widow mine there and instead of pulling his probes, he decided to attack 2 marines while letting the mine recharge.

While MvP is in other class than Mana and should win 3-0, speedvacs are right now op for PvT. Korean will rape appart P's when using speedvac rush builds till those get nerfed. Why? Because those have a mobility almost unmacheable for Ps, specially in how the new maps are designed, and every drop while it could be defended, it cannot be stoped cose it can retreat. So dodging a bullet, do not care cose there will be other, and other. And once the P get shot, it hit hard.
Chicken gank op
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
March 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#2377
On March 09 2013 00:44 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
it really looks so broken it doesnt make the game entertaining. 1 mistake from toss and hes out. 10 mistakes from terran and he can get back into the game with 1 widow mine


HAHAAHAHA what about storms/colossi?

Anyway, Mana made more than one mistake. He has been supply blocked sooooo many times it's not even funny.
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
March 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#2378
On March 09 2013 00:44 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
it really looks so broken it doesnt make the game entertaining. 1 mistake from toss and hes out. 10 mistakes from terran and he can get back into the game with 1 widow mine

You're completely deluded if you think the ratio mistake was MaNa 1:10 Mvp in this game.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#2379
On March 09 2013 00:44 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
it really looks so broken it doesnt make the game entertaining. 1 mistake from toss and hes out. 10 mistakes from terran and he can get back into the game with 1 widow mine


You missed the Dream and First games it seems.
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
March 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#2380
On March 09 2013 00:44 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
it really looks so broken it doesnt make the game entertaining. 1 mistake from toss and hes out. 10 mistakes from terran and he can get back into the game with 1 widow mine


funny, i doubt you said that about zerg & toss in wol

also mvp/10
young ho
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