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On March 08 2013 02:08 Jampackedeon wrote:
I hate to say this, but watching Zv anything is really painful right now. It just feels like the other two races were given such a boost to their early game (Mothership Core, widow mines, reaper buff) that Zerg is constantly playing from a deficit.
Also, the medivac speed boost is kind of ridiculous considering how much faster it is than every other unit in the game, and since fungal isn't instant anymore I don't know how you lock one down.
I really hope the final release balances some of these issues.
Yeah lets nerf everything in a game that has barely been played on a professional level. Good idea!
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On March 08 2013 02:08 Jampackedeon wrote:
I hate to say this, but watching Zv anything is really painful right now. It just feels like the other two races were given such a boost to their early game (Mothership Core, widow mines, reaper buff) that Zerg is constantly playing from a deficit.
Also, the medivac speed boost is kind of ridiculous considering how much faster it is than every other unit in the game, and since fungal isn't instant anymore I don't know how you lock one down.
I really hope the final release balances some of these issues.
Dont hold your breath. I wouldnt expect them to patch anything until a while after release
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On March 08 2013 02:07 Zzoram wrote:
It seemed like Stephano was still figuring out the game today.
Why didn't Idra tell him how to play HotS?
i don't think idra has a say on this, considering his recent performance, even in HOTS
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I have to say I don't think Stephano controlled his units very badly at all in the end. His infestor control looked sloppy at times earlier during the game (but there was a lot going on), but in the end he used both his infestors and vipers well. There was blinding cloud and fungal everywhere. Can't remember if I saw any corruption from his corruptors though ^^
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On March 08 2013 02:07 Zzoram wrote:
It seemed like Stephano was still figuring out the game today.
Why didn't Idra tell him how to play HotS?
did i miss some good Idra drama ?
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TLADT24920 Posts
On March 08 2013 02:07 sibs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 02:05 BigFan wrote:
he had that game but then gave it away >< he never had the game, are we watching the same game?
he had it before he decided to stay on ultras and about 200/200 then let Dream get a lot of vikings+bcs+ravens. He was moving his units back and forth for like 5 mins if not more.
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On March 08 2013 02:07 Zzoram wrote:
It seemed like Stephano was still figuring out the game today.
Why didn't Idra tell him how to play HotS?
not shure if trolling or being serious 
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On March 08 2013 02:09 ramask2 wrote:
Not to take anything away from Stephano, but I think Dream played really well this series. Made me a fan.
Yea dream is pretty awesome, and he's only 16 years old.
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On March 08 2013 02:08 Jampackedeon wrote:
I hate to say this, but watching Zv anything is really painful right now. It just feels like the other two races were given such a boost to their early game (Mothership Core, widow mines, reaper buff) that Zerg is constantly playing from a deficit.
Also, the medivac speed boost is kind of ridiculous considering how much faster it is than every other unit in the game, and since fungal isn't instant anymore I don't know how you lock one down.
I really hope the final release balances some of these issues.
Are you crazy o_O
All the ZvX matchups are so crazy good ! Way better than WoL imo
Well, maybe all ZvX BUT ZvZ. ^^
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On March 08 2013 02:08 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 02:06 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Lol, Terran becoming the new zerg... Yeah, Stephano tried so hard doing nothing for minuts and allowing his opponent to tech Battlecruisers with 2/2 bio vs 5/3 Ultralisks. From this the only logical conclusion is that Terran is imbalanced.
He did attack bro, all that he got was donating units, ling/ultralisk needs surface area, terran units can pack really well with buildings, also can't attack healing flying units  .
Dream could have added widow mines at any point and completely shut down stephano's shenanigans, didnt need to do that though.
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On March 08 2013 02:08 Jampackedeon wrote:
I hate to say this, but watching Zv anything is really painful right now. It just feels like the other two races were given such a boost to their early game (Mothership Core, widow mines, reaper buff) that Zerg is constantly playing from a deficit.
Also, the medivac speed boost is kind of ridiculous considering how much faster it is than every other unit in the game, and since fungal isn't instant anymore I don't know how you lock one down.
I really hope the final release balances some of these issues.
booooofnhooooo zerg cant 3 hatch off of nothin but queens n a cpl spines/zerglins anymore wahwahwahhhhh
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i am so happy for hots, the game looks soooooo much better. Finally people with better mechanics and skill or better builds win the games rather than the past year of stagnant horrible metagame and boring Zv everything. Not to mention early aggression is actually smart and viable with all 3 races IMO.
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On March 08 2013 02:10 DOUDOU wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 02:07 Zzoram wrote:
It seemed like Stephano was still figuring out the game today.
Why didn't Idra tell him how to play HotS? i don't think idra has a say on this, considering his recent performance, even in HOTS
+ Show Spoiler +
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On March 08 2013 02:08 Jampackedeon wrote:
I hate to say this, but watching Zv anything is really painful right now. It just feels like the other two races were given such a boost to their early game (Mothership Core, widow mines, reaper buff) that Zerg is constantly playing from a deficit.
Also, the medivac speed boost is kind of ridiculous considering how much faster it is than every other unit in the game, and since fungal isn't instant anymore I don't know how you lock one down.
I really hope the final release balances some of these issues.
Note "right now". Zerg will always have it harder around release time due to how their macro-heavy style requires safe plays to be pioneered by innovators. The game needs to be figured out more, and safe plays should be created. I think the early game is fine now, what zerg really needs is a way to deal with those late game sky-compositions like Raven-BC and Carrier-Tempest-Mothership-Voidray.
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On March 08 2013 02:10 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 02:07 Zzoram wrote:
It seemed like Stephano was still figuring out the game today.
Why didn't Idra tell him how to play HotS? did i miss some good Idra drama ?
He played a great series vs Minigun recently.
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I think people will gradually adapt to all "imbalances" bar speedivacs. It must be changed somehow, either nerfed, costing energy or something among those lines.
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Northern Ireland27475 Posts
On March 08 2013 02:08 Jampackedeon wrote:
I hate to say this, but watching Zv anything is really painful right now. It just feels like the other two races were given such a boost to their early game (Mothership Core, widow mines, reaper buff) that Zerg is constantly playing from a deficit.
Also, the medivac speed boost is kind of ridiculous considering how much faster it is than every other unit in the game, and since fungal isn't instant anymore I don't know how you lock one down.
I really hope the final release balances some of these issues.
Other races had fuck all light pressures to use on Zerg. Hope this trend towards harassment continues, if imbalanced over time patch but not now.
Medivac speed boost needs actively triggered and is fine imo. Zerg players can defend drops better than they have been doing, indeed Stephano at his 'peak' was immense at this. Zerg units move faster than everything else on average, especially on creep so I think their sheer speed can definitely help even if you are caught off guard.
I'd prefer 'too strong' medivacs at present and see how they go, than watching harass be deflected by fungalling everything instantly. if they're too strong in a few months, re-evaluate then
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Impressed progamers everywhere!
Mykhailo Gaida @Empire_Kas What a games from MVP ! great terran skill so inspirating!
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On March 08 2013 02:11 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 02:10 DOUDOU wrote:On March 08 2013 02:07 Zzoram wrote:
It seemed like Stephano was still figuring out the game today.
Why didn't Idra tell him how to play HotS? i don't think idra has a say on this, considering his recent performance, even in HOTS + Show Spoiler +
quick, type a word in your message, any word
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On March 08 2013 02:11 Irre wrote:
i am so happy for hots, the game looks soooooo much better. Finally people with better mechanics and skill or better builds win the games rather than the past year of stagnant horrible metagame and boring Zv everything. Not to mention early aggression is actually smart and viable with all 3 races IMO.
Yeah, looking good.
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