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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
March 05 2013 09:34 GMT
#301
On March 05 2013 18:32 klaxen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 18:30 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 18:29 Insoleet wrote:
On March 05 2013 18:28 nomyx wrote:
7 range phoenix

jesus christ that is so powerful

and I'm saying that as a protoss


5 range phoenix is already microable against muta
The upgrade could give 6 range... But 7 range it's just way too much as an hardcounter.


He killed around 12 mutas with just five 7 range phoenix

it's just absurd

edit: not trying to balance whine, but those phoenix decimated those mutas. They couldn't even escape due to faster phoenix speed + range.


What would be acceptable though? Phoenix seem pretty much designed to counter mutalisks, which they failed at in WoL. 5 Roaches counter 12 zealots pretty easily.


He should be thankful that Corsairs aren't around in SC2, those would decimate mutas even more.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 05 2013 09:34 GMT
#302
Why is he keeping all his HTs in one ball, instead of leaving a few at each base for defense?
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
March 05 2013 09:34 GMT
#303
Nerchio is just asking to be stormed. That gets stormed once and everything dies. If people complain about balance if that happens im going to lament.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 05 2013 09:35 GMT
#304
Wow derp moment trying to snipe the nexus there nerchio
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 05 2013 09:35 GMT
#305
oh god all those corruptors are soooo red

stuff is happening on the main stream btw
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 05 2013 09:35 GMT
#306
There you go, those were some good storms. Those Corruptors are so squishy now.
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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 05 2013 09:35 GMT
#307
On March 05 2013 18:34 sitromit wrote:
Why is he keeping all his HTs in one ball, instead of leaving a few at each base for defense?


It's part of the foreigner meta game

Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
March 05 2013 09:35 GMT
#308
Those really were some awesome storms, like 5 good ones in a row that hit the whole air force.
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klaxen
Profile Joined April 2010
United States361 Posts
March 05 2013 09:35 GMT
#309
On March 05 2013 18:33 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 18:32 klaxen wrote:
On March 05 2013 18:30 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 18:29 Insoleet wrote:
On March 05 2013 18:28 nomyx wrote:
7 range phoenix

jesus christ that is so powerful

and I'm saying that as a protoss


5 range phoenix is already microable against muta
The upgrade could give 6 range... But 7 range it's just way too much as an hardcounter.


He killed around 12 mutas with just five 7 range phoenix

it's just absurd

edit: not trying to balance whine, but those phoenix decimated those mutas. They couldn't even escape due to faster phoenix speed + range.


What would be acceptable though? Phoenix seem pretty much designed to counter mutalisks, which they failed at in WoL. 5 Roaches counter 12 zealots pretty easily.


I would like it if they weren't a hard counter unit.

I would like it if both were viable against each other and the player with better micro / decision making wins.


The problem is muta's can attack ground without a special abilitiy, and can be produced faster. Phoenix have to overcome this advantage somehow.
high master protoss - low master zerg
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
March 05 2013 09:35 GMT
#310
9k viewers now. It's gone up 5k in about half hour :O
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 05 2013 09:36 GMT
#311
Man those mutas are all full health again already after eating like 4 storms a minute ago
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 05 2013 09:36 GMT
#312
On March 05 2013 18:35 Qikz wrote:
9k viewers now. It's gone up 5k in about half hour :O


1990 on stream two!

Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
March 05 2013 09:36 GMT
#313
On March 05 2013 18:35 Qikz wrote:
9k viewers now. It's gone up 5k in about half hour :O


Yeah, european nerds waking up ; )
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 05 2013 09:36 GMT
#314
On March 05 2013 18:36 Asha` wrote:
Man those mutas are all full health again already after eating like 4 storms a minute ago


they regen 1 hp per in-game second
fishb00n
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany607 Posts
March 05 2013 09:36 GMT
#315
so...now with the bLord morph, those storms did literally NO damage?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 05 2013 09:37 GMT
#316
On March 05 2013 18:35 Qikz wrote:
9k viewers now. It's gone up 5k in about half hour :O


woah 9k viewers time to celebrate!

I would expect a lot more later in the day, MLG had 20k for one of the qualifier matches.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 05 2013 09:37 GMT
#317
On March 05 2013 18:36 fishb00n wrote:
so...now with the bLord morph, those storms did literally NO damage?


Correct.
EZSkull
Profile Joined March 2011
United States230 Posts
March 05 2013 09:37 GMT
#318
That damage from the Tempest
“I can discredit the K-1 with two syllables. Bob Sapp.” - Sonnen(R)
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 05 2013 09:37 GMT
#319
One tempest to rule them all!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
March 05 2013 09:37 GMT
#320
I wish Daybreak would go away. I really can't stand this map anymore.
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