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On March 06 2013 02:08 Aunvilgod wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 02:07 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On March 06 2013 02:04 sparklyresidue wrote:
I'd be interested to see how widow mines work without being able to hit air. That said, I hope Blizzard doesn't patch the game for a few months at least, as I want to see how TvZ develops. My guess is that blizzard gave the WM an anti-air ability because mech sucks vs air. With an aa warhound, WM's could be anti-ground only and 1 supply. Just say Goliath, srsly. I have to add that Goliaths are the coolest unit out there. Especially the sound of their AA rockets...
If you want to play broodwar, go play broodwar, it's a great game .... but without rocks :p
And i'd give goliaths the fire splash ability of hellbats, but weaker of course. Just make them good vs light, and the tanks are supposed to take care of the rest. Would be cool.
By the way since WM's take supply, ressources and production time, why not make them scale with upgrades ? They'd be weaker in early game and stronger in late game, sounds like an option blizzard should really consider.
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On March 06 2013 02:09 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 02:08 nunez wrote:On March 06 2013 02:05 Bocian wrote:
I think yoda played really well but mines need a slight nerf. i don't think mines being too strong were the problem that game. ret could have squeezed more out of his attack, which was a big gamble that didn't pay off. after that i think yoda was too far ahead anyways. gj to ret though, super strong showing in groups even though it's still the beta. hope to see more of his zvp in the playoffs. so funny how forum terrans defend themselves lol, every pro terran (even yoda 2 minutes ago) openly admit that terran is hugely favored against zerg right now and the mine is only one of the problems
We learned from the zergs in WoL
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Damn I just missed the matches :/
Will have to tune in earlier tomorrow...
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Altho i think terran is a bit OP in TvZ atm, you really do have to appreciate his control, those widows mines in hands of noob terran can actually kill him 
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On March 06 2013 02:16 habibe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 02:04 TBO wrote:On March 06 2013 02:03 dcsoda wrote:On March 06 2013 01:57 nomyx wrote:On March 06 2013 01:56 dcsoda wrote:
Should have to target units with widow mine. Staggering the fire is interesting I guess. That would remove the interesting dynamic of baiting widow mine shots If you have the mines, you need to make them as cost efficient as possible. If you are playing vs the mines, you need to make them as cost inefficient as possible. That's true though I guess my main problem was how much of a security blanket it was even when his proxy got scouted so early. That and I just don't like Terran very much  you can't bait widow mine shots really vs a player who knows about something blizzard doesn't consider a bug. What's that?
Its not a bug its micro.
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anyone think its kind of interesting that ret blindly scouted on ohana and found the proxy really quickly? imean, he sent that drone out before even an 11 rax would have been planted
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Guys, calm down... There will be huge balance patch with release. Blizzard is watching very closelo to those games and if there is something wrong, they will step in a make adjustments.
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On March 06 2013 02:22 c0sm0naut wrote:
anyone think its kind of interesting that ret blindly scouted on ohana and found the proxy really quickly? imean, he sent that drone out before even an 11 rax would have been planted
that rush is pretty popular on hots beta server
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On March 06 2013 02:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 02:16 habibe wrote:On March 06 2013 02:04 TBO wrote:On March 06 2013 02:03 dcsoda wrote:On March 06 2013 01:57 nomyx wrote:On March 06 2013 01:56 dcsoda wrote:
Should have to target units with widow mine. Staggering the fire is interesting I guess. That would remove the interesting dynamic of baiting widow mine shots If you have the mines, you need to make them as cost efficient as possible. If you are playing vs the mines, you need to make them as cost inefficient as possible. That's true though I guess my main problem was how much of a security blanket it was even when his proxy got scouted so early. That and I just don't like Terran very much you can't bait widow mine shots really vs a player who knows about something blizzard doesn't consider a bug. What's that? Its not a bug its micro.
thats why there is a big flashing error message on the screen when doing it?
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On March 06 2013 02:23 vojnik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 02:22 c0sm0naut wrote:
anyone think its kind of interesting that ret blindly scouted on ohana and found the proxy really quickly? imean, he sent that drone out before even an 11 rax would have been planted that rush is pretty popular on hots beta server
Wasn't the first time Yoda placed a rax there either.
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On March 06 2013 02:23 vojnik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 02:22 c0sm0naut wrote:
anyone think its kind of interesting that ret blindly scouted on ohana and found the proxy really quickly? imean, he sent that drone out before even an 11 rax would have been planted that rush is pretty popular on hots beta server
never have seen it before. it just seemd like the most random thing in the world to be scouting for lol.
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On March 06 2013 02:22 c0sm0naut wrote:
anyone think its kind of interesting that ret blindly scouted on ohana and found the proxy really quickly? imean, he sent that drone out before even an 11 rax would have been planted
yeah. Really shows how skilled that guy is.
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On March 06 2013 02:26 c0sm0naut wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 02:23 vojnik wrote:On March 06 2013 02:22 c0sm0naut wrote:
anyone think its kind of interesting that ret blindly scouted on ohana and found the proxy really quickly? imean, he sent that drone out before even an 11 rax would have been planted that rush is pretty popular on hots beta server never have seen it before. it just seemd like the most random thing in the world to be scouting for lol.
Standard play by Zerg, Proxy barracks are back in fashion
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On March 06 2013 02:26 c0sm0naut wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 02:23 vojnik wrote:On March 06 2013 02:22 c0sm0naut wrote:
anyone think its kind of interesting that ret blindly scouted on ohana and found the proxy really quickly? imean, he sent that drone out before even an 11 rax would have been planted that rush is pretty popular on hots beta server never have seen it before. it just seemd like the most random thing in the world to be scouting for lol.
in the current HOTS metagame 10 drone scout for proxy is not that unlikely, plus its ret, i bet he faced many of those openings.
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I don't think 8/8 is as bad as some people make it out to be, but Widow mines do feel a little WOL infestor-ish with it's good vs everything feel. Sample size is still ridiculously small, but hopefully Blizzard is watching this tournament very carefully.
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Hey guys, searched through the thread for comments about my cast, I understand the observing concerns and will do MUCH better tomorrow. No excuses to be made, but I have taken every comment into consideration. Thanks very much for the feedback I was mostly concerned about making sure I didn't talk too fast during this cast, now I have a new focus!
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Group A & B results from today:
TvZ: 53%
TvP: 29%
ZvP: 37%
% against other races combined:
Protoss: 65.85%
Terran: 41.37%
Zerg: 40.47%
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On March 06 2013 02:22 c0sm0naut wrote:
anyone think its kind of interesting that ret blindly scouted on ohana and found the proxy really quickly? imean, he sent that drone out before even an 11 rax would have been planted
As opposed to... an "unblind scout"??
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