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On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.
Well played by Goswser though!
Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol.
Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about 
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On March 02 2013 08:25 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.
Well played by Goswser though! Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol. Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about
vipers are complained about.
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On March 02 2013 08:22 openbox1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 08:05 jayaiwhy wrote:On March 02 2013 07:45 blade55555 wrote:On March 02 2013 07:39 Ghanburighan wrote:Pretty bad games, to be honest. Caliber seems to just be quite bad. Slow to react and a bit sloppy on macro. Edit: Officially worst game of the season  Such a clusterf*ck I don't think caliber even played hots at all during beta unless I am mistaken. Also wtf gosu threw this game :o. He started playing a day before the match ;; its showing quite clearly. You can tell when Swarm Hosts appear he's like... "awwww f***. What the hell am i supposed to do."
Haha, I think you have a point there
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On March 02 2013 08:27 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 08:25 blade55555 wrote:On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.
Well played by Goswser though! Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol. Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about vipers are complained about.
They shouldn't be. Vikings shut them down pretty hard (and ghosts, if they were on the field for one reason or another), and feedback can easily 1 shot them. There's nothing wrong with having "good", "interesting", or "fun" units in the game.
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On March 02 2013 08:25 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.
Well played by Goswser though! Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol. Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about
I just feel like as soon as all the new timings and stuff are figured out, vipers will be the go to unit. And I for one feel it's really hard to fedback enough of them in time, since one or two clouds/abducts can change the outcome of the fight entirely.
Guess it's up to the pros to show me what to do though :>
And yeah, it'll prolly be a few months before we se them enough to debate it seriously.
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hehe, its gonna be funny when swarm host pops up against Caliber again.
Can't wait.
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On March 02 2013 08:33 Myxomatosis. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 08:25 blade55555 wrote:On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.
Well played by Goswser though! Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol. Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about I just feel like as soon as all the new timings and stuff are figured out, vipers will be the go to unit. And I for one feel it's really hard to fedback enough of them in time, since one or two clouds/abducts can change the outcome of the fight entirely. Guess it's up to the pros to show me what to do though :> And yeah, it'll prolly be a few months before we se them enough to debate it seriously.
If you take Gowser's game as an example, that was Caliber doing exactly what not to do. He literally sat in it for the entire fight. Conceptually, it's just like storm. Bad players are going to stand in it, and get absolutely shifaced, and then they'll call the ability broken BS. If they moved back, broke away from the engagement (which there was nothing stopping him from doing), he could have avoided that slaughterfest
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this is hilarious. Caliber really has no clue.
I'm laughing my head off.
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calibers control is so bad and not having obsi against these burrowed guys ? SRSLY? lol.
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Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 1?No (5) 83% Yes (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 2?Yes (9) 64% No (5) 36% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 3?No (7) 88% Yes (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 4?No (5) 83% Yes (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 4? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 5?No (5) 83% Yes (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 5? (Vote): Yes
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Does the slow thing on the oracle effect everything or only enemy units? He had like half his army standing in it..
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Yeaaah 2 Millenium qualified in 2 days ! Grats Goswser !
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Only saw the last game, at least the result was the desired one, but how on earth was that so close if Caliber only started playing HotS one day prior to the match?
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On March 02 2013 08:38 JJH777 wrote:
Does the slow thing on the oracle effect everything or only enemy units? He had like half his army standing in it..
1) It's on the Mothership Core.
2) All ground units. Also, only effects movement speed.
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On March 02 2013 04:33 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 04:32 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
"56 of the world's best StarCraft II players". This statement may be right formally, but it just doesnt feel right. So you're saying that the players in this competition competing for qualification are not amongst the best in the world? Come on.
No. Just calling some of the players worlds best is hilarious though (or sad).
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On March 02 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
Only saw the last game, at least the result was the desired one, but how on earth was that so close if Caliber only started playing HotS one day prior to the match?
massive throw and 4 gate
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On March 02 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
Only saw the last game, at least the result was the desired one, but how on earth was that so close if Caliber only started playing HotS one day prior to the match?
One game was a 4-gate that Goswser scouted too late.
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caliber had these last 2 games so easy.. huge throws T_T
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On March 02 2013 08:36 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 08:33 Myxomatosis. wrote:On March 02 2013 08:25 blade55555 wrote:On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.
Well played by Goswser though! Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol. Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about I just feel like as soon as all the new timings and stuff are figured out, vipers will be the go to unit. And I for one feel it's really hard to fedback enough of them in time, since one or two clouds/abducts can change the outcome of the fight entirely. Guess it's up to the pros to show me what to do though :> And yeah, it'll prolly be a few months before we se them enough to debate it seriously. If you take Gowser's game as an example, that was Caliber doing exactly what not to do. He literally sat in it for the entire fight. Conceptually, it's just like storm. Bad players are going to stand in it, and get absolutely shifaced, and then they'll call the ability broken BS. If they moved back, broke away from the engagement (which there was nothing stopping him from doing), he could have avoided that slaughterfest
Yeah ofcourse, however zerg almost always use flanks, or are defending. In both cases backing off isn't the greatest idea...
I'm not saying it's overpowered though, just really strong imo.
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Yeah, unfortunately MLG contacted me while i was in LA for CSL Grand Finals (WoL). I was a little hesitant to accept the invite but decided to do so anyways, despite the fact that I hadn't touched HotS yet. My friend helped me train, we had about 1-2 schools and I played almost every waking hour outside of class.
Anyways, sorry for the sloppy games. I really had no clue how to handle swarm hosts, but I am also thankful that I lost. Goswer deserves it much more than I do and I think he has significantly better odds of winning vs Bomber than I do.
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