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[MLG] Caliber vs Goswser - Dallas Qualifier Day 22

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Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 23:46:25
March 01 2013 19:03 GMT
#1
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During the MLG Winter Season Showdowns, 56 of the world's best StarCraft II players will compete in Heart of the Swarm. Each player will compete in 1 best-of-5 Showdown Match, with each winner receiving a paid trip to compete in the MLG Winter Championship. Tune in and watch every match in FREE 1080p HD at www.majorleaguegaming.com and on Twitch.TV.

(Wiki)2013 MLG Winter Championship/Showdowns

Schedule/VODS
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Parting vs FanTaSy - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
RorO vs herO - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Innovation vs TY - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Soulkey vs Last - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Rain vs Flying - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Sase vs Snute - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Nerchio vs BabyKnight - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Stephano vs Titan - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Mana vs Bly - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Socke vs Thorzain - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Ret vs Feast - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Creator vs Nestea - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Mvp vs Curious - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Sniper vs Seed - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
MKP vs Gumiho - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
DRG vs Jjakji - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
MC vs Alive - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Taeja vs Violet - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Hero vs Polt - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Sen vs Moonglade - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
EU Consolation Matches* - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Friday, Mar 01 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Caliber vs Goswser
Sunday, Mar 03 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) IdrA vs Minigun
Monday, Mar 04 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Fenix vs State
Tuesday, Mar 05 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Vibe vs Illusion
Wednesday, Mar 06 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Suppy vs Maker
Thursday, Mar 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Killer vs qxc
Friday, Mar 08 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Huk vs Sasquatch

imaga qualified for the Winter Championship but is unable to attend. The EU runners up will compete in a single elimination, Best of 1 tournament to determine who will take his place.



Tonight's match:
(P)Caliber vs (Z)Goswser


www.majorleaguegaming.com

Results
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Game 1
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Map: Daybreak
Winner: Goswser


Game 2
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Map: Cloud Kingdom
Winner: Caliber


Game 3
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Map: Whirlwind
Winner: Caliber


Game 4 (if necessary)
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Map: Neo Planet S
Winner: Goswser


Game 5 (if necessary)
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Map: Newkirk City
Winner: Goswser



Recommended Games
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Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 1?

No (5)
 
83%

Yes (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 2?

Yes (9)
 
64%

No (5)
 
36%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 3?

No (7)
 
88%

Yes (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 4?

No (5)
 
83%

Yes (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 5?

No (5)
 
83%

Yes (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




Map Pool
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Akilon Wastes
Bifrost
Cloud Kingdom
Daybreak
Entombed Valley
Korhal City
Newkirk City
Ohana
Planet S
Star Station
Whirlwind

Note: In each Winter Season Showdown match, both Players will veto three Maps.


Format
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Invite-Only online matches; Winner takes all, Best of five games


Prize
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The 28 winners will receive placement at the Winter Championship in Dallas from March 15-17 where they will compete with Life, Leenock, Flash and Bomber.


Currently Qualified
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(T)Flash - Top 4 2012 MLG Fall Championship
(Z)Leenock - Top 4 2012 MLG Fall Championship
(Z)Life
- Top 4 2012 MLG Fall Championship
(T)Bomber
- Top 4 2012 MLG Fall Championship
(P)PartinG - Defeated (T)FanTaSy
(P)herO[jOin] - Defeated (Z)RorO
(T)INnoVation - Defeated (T)TY
(T)Last - Defeated (Z)Soulkey
(P)Rain - Defeated (P)Flying
(P)SaSe - Defeated (Z)Snute
(P)BabyKnight - Defeated (Z)Nerchio
(Z)Stephano - Defeated (P)TitaN
(Z)Bly - Defeated (P)MaNa
(T)ThorZaIN - Defeated (P)Socke
(Z)Ret - Defeated (P)Feast
(P)Creator - Defeated (Z)NesTea
(T)Mvp - Defeated (Z)Curious
(P)Seed - Defeated (Z)Sniper
(T)MKP - Defeated (T)GuMiho
(T)jjakji - Defeated (Z)DRG
(P)MC - Defeated (T)aLive
(T)TaeJa - Defeated (Z)Violet
(T)Polt - Defeated (P)HerO
(Z)Sen - Defeated (Z)mOOnGLaDe
(P)Feast - Won the EU Last Chance Bracket


Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 01 2013 19:08 GMT
#2
( •_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
I think he isnt on goswser Caliber.
(⌐■_■)
YEAAAAAAH.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
March 01 2013 19:32 GMT
#3
"56 of the world's best StarCraft II players". This statement may be right formally, but it just doesnt feel right.
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MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
March 01 2013 19:33 GMT
#4
On March 02 2013 04:32 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
"56 of the world's best StarCraft II players". This statement may be right formally, but it just doesnt feel right.



So you're saying that the players in this competition competing for qualification are not amongst the best in the world? Come on.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
jayaiwhy
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia88 Posts
March 01 2013 19:43 GMT
#5
#caliberthechamp > vortix
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 01 2013 19:45 GMT
#6
Poll: Who will win ?

Goswser (15)
 
65%

Caliber (8)
 
35%

23 total votes

Your vote: Who will win ?

(Vote): Caliber
(Vote): Goswser

Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 01 2013 19:59 GMT
#7
On March 02 2013 04:33 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 04:32 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
"56 of the world's best StarCraft II players". This statement may be right formally, but it just doesnt feel right.



So you're saying that the players in this competition competing for qualification are not amongst the best in the world? Come on.


Let's say it's more the topX of each region rather than the topX worlwide, but whatever the format is fine for me.


Unless he turned it down, I'm still wondering why you didn't include lucifron in the euro qualifier, he deserved a chance much more than some others.
Terran & Potato Salad.
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
March 01 2013 20:00 GMT
#8
I hope Caliber owns Goswer. Never really liked Goswer and Caliber is pretty good just not much recognition for him
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 01 2013 20:17 GMT
#9
On March 02 2013 04:33 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 04:32 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
"56 of the world's best StarCraft II players". This statement may be right formally, but it just doesnt feel right.



So you're saying that the players in this competition competing for qualification are not amongst the best in the world? Come on.

let's just say there's literally hundreds of koreans and a lot of europeans that are better than those guys. not to take anything away from them, they are still better than me and the vast majority of sc2 players overall. but this is one of very few matches from this qualifier i will not be watching tbh.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Wyrd
Profile Joined May 2011
United States211 Posts
March 01 2013 20:24 GMT
#10
Let's go goswser!
www.twitch.tv/wyrd5
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
March 01 2013 20:32 GMT
#11
Goswser had a bad reputation, but now he's being pretty cool, and he's so much of a hard worker, can't see him losing more than one game here.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
March 01 2013 20:32 GMT
#12
goswser said zvp was zerg favored when nerchio lost


show us what you got! :D
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 01 2013 20:35 GMT
#13
On March 02 2013 05:17 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 04:33 MLG_Adam wrote:
On March 02 2013 04:32 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
"56 of the world's best StarCraft II players". This statement may be right formally, but it just doesnt feel right.



So you're saying that the players in this competition competing for qualification are not amongst the best in the world? Come on.

let's just say there's literally hundreds of koreans and a lot of europeans that are better than those guys. not to take anything away from them, they are still better than me and the vast majority of sc2 players overall. but this is one of very few matches from this qualifier i will not be watching tbh.

MLG didn't say they are the 56 best players in the world but 56 OF the best players in the world (in a pool of 200-300 players, it's pretty accurate).
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 01 2013 20:37 GMT
#14
go goswser, i guess
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 01 2013 20:50 GMT
#15
On March 02 2013 05:37 opterown wrote:
go goswser, i guess

THAT AIN'T THE SPIRIT.
GO GO GOSWER YOU'RE OUR MAN IF YOU CAN'T CRUSH CALIBER NO ONE CAN.
3-0 MVP, 3-0 MVP G_G
Glorious SEA doto
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 21:03:56
March 01 2013 21:03 GMT
#16
Hopefully goswser won, he's the better player and it would be nice if racial balance was at least somewhat equal, even if the Zergs won't win much at the event.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#17
Go Goswser!
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 01 2013 21:37 GMT
#18
GOSWSER HWATING :D

http://wordpress.tools.majorleaguegaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bracket.png sick bracket btw
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 21:56:59
March 01 2013 21:56 GMT
#19
On March 02 2013 06:37 Mun_Su wrote:
GOSWSER HWATING :D

http://wordpress.tools.majorleaguegaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bracket.png sick bracket btw

Thorzain vs killer/qxc, marineking vs nshoseo, seed vs rain, polt vs creator and sen vs vibe/illusion are the matches I want to see.
Glorious SEA doto
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 01 2013 21:59 GMT
#20
On March 02 2013 06:56 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 06:37 Mun_Su wrote:
GOSWSER HWATING :D

http://wordpress.tools.majorleaguegaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bracket.png sick bracket btw

Thorzain vs killer/qxc, marineking vs nshoseo, seed vs rain, polt vs creator and sen vs vibe/illusion are the matches I want to see.

What about Life vs Idra/Minigun?
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 01 2013 22:00 GMT
#21
On March 02 2013 06:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 06:56 Fusilero wrote:
On March 02 2013 06:37 Mun_Su wrote:
GOSWSER HWATING :D

http://wordpress.tools.majorleaguegaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bracket.png sick bracket btw

Thorzain vs killer/qxc, marineking vs nshoseo, seed vs rain, polt vs creator and sen vs vibe/illusion are the matches I want to see.

What about Life vs Idra/Minigun?

There will be laws against the brutal rape that will occur there.
Glorious SEA doto
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 01 2013 22:01 GMT
#22
On March 02 2013 07:00 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 06:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 02 2013 06:56 Fusilero wrote:
On March 02 2013 06:37 Mun_Su wrote:
GOSWSER HWATING :D

http://wordpress.tools.majorleaguegaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bracket.png sick bracket btw

Thorzain vs killer/qxc, marineking vs nshoseo, seed vs rain, polt vs creator and sen vs vibe/illusion are the matches I want to see.

What about Life vs Idra/Minigun?

There will be laws against the brutal rape that will occur there.

Is airtoss really that strong? I think Life can find a way to overcome it
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 01 2013 22:01 GMT
#23
On March 02 2013 07:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 07:00 Fusilero wrote:
On March 02 2013 06:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 02 2013 06:56 Fusilero wrote:
On March 02 2013 06:37 Mun_Su wrote:
GOSWSER HWATING :D

http://wordpress.tools.majorleaguegaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bracket.png sick bracket btw

Thorzain vs killer/qxc, marineking vs nshoseo, seed vs rain, polt vs creator and sen vs vibe/illusion are the matches I want to see.

What about Life vs Idra/Minigun?

There will be laws against the brutal rape that will occur there.

Is airtoss really that strong? I think Life can find a way to overcome it

U GOTTA ROOT4ROOT SON.
Glorious SEA doto
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 01 2013 22:11 GMT
#24
Life can win with zerglings alone against any player.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 01 2013 22:17 GMT
#25
Life will kill Minigun before he gets to skytoss.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
March 01 2013 22:24 GMT
#26
I think MLG is doing a great job, building tension before the Dallas event itself.

This winter showdown thing is really well made, OP is well formed, schedule is comprehensible and user friendly. Casting is quite good and the studio shots are a plus too, somehow making me thing this thing is really serious.

Also the fact, that every winner gets a paid trip to Dallas is exceptional.

IMHO the whole winter showdown series is the best thing that MLG has ever done and - for the first time - I am really curious what will happen in Dalllas.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 01 2013 22:27 GMT
#27
On March 02 2013 07:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 07:00 Fusilero wrote:
On March 02 2013 06:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 02 2013 06:56 Fusilero wrote:
On March 02 2013 06:37 Mun_Su wrote:
GOSWSER HWATING :D

http://wordpress.tools.majorleaguegaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bracket.png sick bracket btw

Thorzain vs killer/qxc, marineking vs nshoseo, seed vs rain, polt vs creator and sen vs vibe/illusion are the matches I want to see.

What about Life vs Idra/Minigun?

There will be laws against the brutal rape that will occur there.

Is airtoss really that strong? I think Life can find a way to overcome it

i totally read that as "artosis" and got confused for a sec there
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
darkshad30000
Profile Joined November 2011
France111 Posts
March 01 2013 22:27 GMT
#28
Go goswser!!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 01 2013 22:27 GMT
#29
clever creep tumor trick to get faster spread at the 3rd. cant recall seeing that, at least not recently
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 01 2013 22:29 GMT
#30
Caliber is doing a "little bit of everything" all in.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 01 2013 22:31 GMT
#31
13 minute all in, losing one immortal right away to lings. What a disaster.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
March 01 2013 22:35 GMT
#32
this game is going way better than I though for Caliber.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 22:44:51
March 01 2013 22:39 GMT
#33
Pretty bad games, to be honest. Caliber seems to just be quite bad. Slow to react and a bit sloppy on macro.

Edit: Officially worst game of the season Such a clusterf*ck
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 22:46:42
March 01 2013 22:45 GMT
#34
On March 02 2013 07:39 Ghanburighan wrote:
Pretty bad games, to be honest. Caliber seems to just be quite bad. Slow to react and a bit sloppy on macro.

Edit: Officially worst game of the season Such a clusterf*ck


I don't think caliber even played hots at all during beta unless I am mistaken.

Also wtf gosu threw this game :o.
When I think of something else, something will go here
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 01 2013 22:47 GMT
#35
hilarious. this is hilariously bad. By both.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 01 2013 22:48 GMT
#36
What a massive throw
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 01 2013 22:48 GMT
#37
these guys are going full north american
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
March 01 2013 22:49 GMT
#38
I can't tell if mass SH / Hydra is weak once storm is out or if that was just terribly executed. :/
Myxomatosis.
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden42 Posts
March 01 2013 22:49 GMT
#39
Why all the hate =O
I'm really digging this game, superb play by both players.

Looks like caliber got this now though :>
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 01 2013 22:50 GMT
#40
man, its really so bad that its become good.
I love these two. Calibre seems like he's never played HOTS before. Gowser's just trying to throw the game as hard as possible.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 01 2013 22:50 GMT
#41
This was one of the worst games I ever watched.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 01 2013 22:51 GMT
#42
Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 2?

Yes (9)
 
64%

No (5)
 
36%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

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iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
March 01 2013 22:51 GMT
#43
"Beautiful play by Caliber" !?!?!??????? wat.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 01 2013 22:51 GMT
#44
On March 02 2013 07:49 TheButtonmen wrote:
I can't tell if mass SH / Hydra is weak once storm is out or if that was just terribly executed. :/


Actually sh/hydra crushes templar focused play. The engagement that gosu lost he had to many swarmhosts (imo) as well as he should have pulled them back not kept them burried when the army is charging you and his locusts were not attacking in that engagement either.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
March 01 2013 22:52 GMT
#45
Game was pretty back and forth, im hoping more and more hots games are like this. MLG doing a great job with production, the matchups, etc.
www.twitch.tv/Gojira621
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
March 01 2013 22:53 GMT
#46
The game was pretty sloppy but it had some nice back-and-forth action. I enjoyed it way more than a perfectly executed / perfectly defended soul train into stomp.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Myxomatosis.
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden42 Posts
March 01 2013 22:54 GMT
#47
I think you guys are underestimating how hard it is to play while as far behing as Gosu was... it was a pretty sick comeback and great move to go swarm host. And sure caliber could prolly have handled them better but he was actually trying to harrass a lot meanwhile.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 01 2013 22:54 GMT
#48
On March 02 2013 07:53 scypio wrote:
The game was pretty sloppy but it had some nice back-and-forth action. I enjoyed it way more than a perfectly executed / perfectly defended soul train into stomp.


yeah, agree. It was fun. But the back and forth was only because of huge mistakes by both players.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
March 01 2013 22:56 GMT
#49
On March 02 2013 07:51 blade55555 wrote:
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On March 02 2013 07:49 TheButtonmen wrote:
I can't tell if mass SH / Hydra is weak once storm is out or if that was just terribly executed. :/


Actually sh/hydra crushes templar focused play. The engagement that gosu lost he had to many swarmhosts (imo) as well as he should have pulled them back not kept them burried when the army is charging you and his locusts were not attacking in that engagement either.


The storms deal with the current wave of locus which lets the toss army engage directly on the hydras and storm / collosus can clean up hydras without losing anything but energy. I haven't had much change to play the match up but storm really seems to put a stop to any hydra / locus based armies long enough for the rest of the toss army to just roll over the swarmlords or secure an expansion.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 01 2013 23:01 GMT
#50
Meeeeeeeeeeh
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scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
March 01 2013 23:02 GMT
#51
Great game! Instant classic! I've watched enough macro games
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Myxomatosis.
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden42 Posts
March 01 2013 23:02 GMT
#52
yeeeeaah, I suspect a lot of 4 gates in the next couple of months...
Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
March 01 2013 23:02 GMT
#53
haha in hots 4gate still beats 3hatch no gas. At least I don't think goswser took any gas. Just unfortunate scouting for goswser but good play by caliber to ignore the third and go straight for the natural if he had tried to stay and kill off the third he mightve honestly lost.
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jayaiwhy
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia88 Posts
March 01 2013 23:05 GMT
#54
On March 02 2013 07:45 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 07:39 Ghanburighan wrote:
Pretty bad games, to be honest. Caliber seems to just be quite bad. Slow to react and a bit sloppy on macro.

Edit: Officially worst game of the season Such a clusterf*ck


I don't think caliber even played hots at all during beta unless I am mistaken.

Also wtf gosu threw this game :o.

He started playing a day before the match ;;
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 01 2013 23:06 GMT
#55
First WoL MLG was won by a Millenium North American player. You can't fail now Goswser !
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 01 2013 23:09 GMT
#56
On March 02 2013 07:56 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 07:51 blade55555 wrote:
On March 02 2013 07:49 TheButtonmen wrote:
I can't tell if mass SH / Hydra is weak once storm is out or if that was just terribly executed. :/


Actually sh/hydra crushes templar focused play. The engagement that gosu lost he had to many swarmhosts (imo) as well as he should have pulled them back not kept them burried when the army is charging you and his locusts were not attacking in that engagement either.


The storms deal with the current wave of locus which lets the toss army engage directly on the hydras and storm / collosus can clean up hydras without losing anything but energy. I haven't had much change to play the match up but storm really seems to put a stop to any hydra / locus based armies long enough for the rest of the toss army to just roll over the swarmlords or secure an expansion.


Well I have been using swarmhosts for a long time in sc2 and I like never lose to templar play when I go swarmhost. I just crush them when they go templar, colossi are the better option imo.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 01 2013 23:17 GMT
#57
i keep thinking they say "Khaldor" instead of Caliber, lol
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 01 2013 23:21 GMT
#58
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Myxomatosis.
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden42 Posts
March 01 2013 23:22 GMT
#59
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.

Well played by Goswser though!
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 01 2013 23:22 GMT
#60
On March 02 2013 08:05 jayaiwhy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 07:45 blade55555 wrote:
On March 02 2013 07:39 Ghanburighan wrote:
Pretty bad games, to be honest. Caliber seems to just be quite bad. Slow to react and a bit sloppy on macro.

Edit: Officially worst game of the season Such a clusterf*ck


I don't think caliber even played hots at all during beta unless I am mistaken.

Also wtf gosu threw this game :o.

He started playing a day before the match ;;


its showing quite clearly. You can tell when Swarm Hosts appear he's like... "awwww f***. What the hell am i supposed to do."
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 01 2013 23:25 GMT
#61
On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.

Well played by Goswser though!


Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol.

Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 01 2013 23:27 GMT
#62
On March 02 2013 08:25 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.

Well played by Goswser though!


Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol.

Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about

vipers are complained about.
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scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
March 01 2013 23:29 GMT
#63
On March 02 2013 08:22 openbox1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 08:05 jayaiwhy wrote:
On March 02 2013 07:45 blade55555 wrote:
On March 02 2013 07:39 Ghanburighan wrote:
Pretty bad games, to be honest. Caliber seems to just be quite bad. Slow to react and a bit sloppy on macro.

Edit: Officially worst game of the season Such a clusterf*ck


I don't think caliber even played hots at all during beta unless I am mistaken.

Also wtf gosu threw this game :o.

He started playing a day before the match ;;


its showing quite clearly. You can tell when Swarm Hosts appear he's like... "awwww f***. What the hell am i supposed to do."


Haha, I think you have a point there
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 23:33:57
March 01 2013 23:30 GMT
#64
On March 02 2013 08:27 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 08:25 blade55555 wrote:
On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.

Well played by Goswser though!


Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol.

Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about

vipers are complained about.

They shouldn't be. Vikings shut them down pretty hard (and ghosts, if they were on the field for one reason or another), and feedback can easily 1 shot them. There's nothing wrong with having "good", "interesting", or "fun" units in the game.
Refer to my post.
Myxomatosis.
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden42 Posts
March 01 2013 23:33 GMT
#65
On March 02 2013 08:25 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.

Well played by Goswser though!


Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol.

Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about


I just feel like as soon as all the new timings and stuff are figured out, vipers will be the go to unit. And I for one feel it's really hard to fedback enough of them in time, since one or two clouds/abducts can change the outcome of the fight entirely.

Guess it's up to the pros to show me what to do though :>

And yeah, it'll prolly be a few months before we se them enough to debate it seriously.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 01 2013 23:35 GMT
#66
hehe, its gonna be funny when swarm host pops up against Caliber again.
Can't wait.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
March 01 2013 23:36 GMT
#67
On March 02 2013 08:33 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 08:25 blade55555 wrote:
On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.

Well played by Goswser though!


Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol.

Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about


I just feel like as soon as all the new timings and stuff are figured out, vipers will be the go to unit. And I for one feel it's really hard to fedback enough of them in time, since one or two clouds/abducts can change the outcome of the fight entirely.

Guess it's up to the pros to show me what to do though :>

And yeah, it'll prolly be a few months before we se them enough to debate it seriously.

If you take Gowser's game as an example, that was Caliber doing exactly what not to do. He literally sat in it for the entire fight. Conceptually, it's just like storm. Bad players are going to stand in it, and get absolutely shifaced, and then they'll call the ability broken BS. If they moved back, broke away from the engagement (which there was nothing stopping him from doing), he could have avoided that slaughterfest
Refer to my post.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 01 2013 23:37 GMT
#68
this is hilarious. Caliber really has no clue.
I'm laughing my head off.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 01 2013 23:37 GMT
#69
calibers control is so bad and not having obsi against these burrowed guys ? SRSLY? lol.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 01 2013 23:38 GMT
#70
Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 1?

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Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 1?

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Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 4?

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Poll: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 5?

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Your vote: Recommend Caliber vs Goswser Game 5?

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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
March 01 2013 23:38 GMT
#71
Does the slow thing on the oracle effect everything or only enemy units? He had like half his army standing in it..
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 01 2013 23:39 GMT
#72
Yeaaah 2 Millenium qualified in 2 days ! Grats Goswser !
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 01 2013 23:39 GMT
#73
Only saw the last game, at least the result was the desired one, but how on earth was that so close if Caliber only started playing HotS one day prior to the match?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 01 2013 23:40 GMT
#74
On March 02 2013 08:38 JJH777 wrote:
Does the slow thing on the oracle effect everything or only enemy units? He had like half his army standing in it..

1) It's on the Mothership Core.

2) All ground units. Also, only effects movement speed.
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
March 01 2013 23:40 GMT
#75
On March 02 2013 04:33 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 04:32 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
"56 of the world's best StarCraft II players". This statement may be right formally, but it just doesnt feel right.



So you're saying that the players in this competition competing for qualification are not amongst the best in the world? Come on.

No. Just calling some of the players worlds best is hilarious though (or sad).
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 01 2013 23:41 GMT
#76
On March 02 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
Only saw the last game, at least the result was the desired one, but how on earth was that so close if Caliber only started playing HotS one day prior to the match?

massive throw and 4 gate
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 01 2013 23:41 GMT
#77
On March 02 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
Only saw the last game, at least the result was the desired one, but how on earth was that so close if Caliber only started playing HotS one day prior to the match?

One game was a 4-gate that Goswser scouted too late.
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EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
March 01 2013 23:42 GMT
#78
caliber had these last 2 games so easy.. huge throws T_T
Myxomatosis.
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden42 Posts
March 01 2013 23:42 GMT
#79
On March 02 2013 08:36 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 08:33 Myxomatosis. wrote:
On March 02 2013 08:25 blade55555 wrote:
On March 02 2013 08:22 Myxomatosis. wrote:
Blinding cloud looks so good in some situations. Seriously think vipers will get a nerf pretty close after release.

Well played by Goswser though!


Doubt it. Protoss has the easiest counter ever to vipers. Feedback has just as much range as abduct and more range then blinding cloud. It'll never be a problem or overpowered like infestors in wol.

Also betas over their not nerfing anything till after release and vipers are definitely not even complained about


I just feel like as soon as all the new timings and stuff are figured out, vipers will be the go to unit. And I for one feel it's really hard to fedback enough of them in time, since one or two clouds/abducts can change the outcome of the fight entirely.

Guess it's up to the pros to show me what to do though :>

And yeah, it'll prolly be a few months before we se them enough to debate it seriously.

If you take Gowser's game as an example, that was Caliber doing exactly what not to do. He literally sat in it for the entire fight. Conceptually, it's just like storm. Bad players are going to stand in it, and get absolutely shifaced, and then they'll call the ability broken BS. If they moved back, broke away from the engagement (which there was nothing stopping him from doing), he could have avoided that slaughterfest


Yeah ofcourse, however zerg almost always use flanks, or are defending. In both cases backing off isn't the greatest idea...
I'm not saying it's overpowered though, just really strong imo.
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
March 02 2013 00:06 GMT
#80
Yeah, unfortunately MLG contacted me while i was in LA for CSL Grand Finals (WoL). I was a little hesitant to accept the invite but decided to do so anyways, despite the fact that I hadn't touched HotS yet. My friend helped me train, we had about 1-2 schools and I played almost every waking hour outside of class.

Anyways, sorry for the sloppy games. I really had no clue how to handle swarm hosts, but I am also thankful that I lost. Goswer deserves it much more than I do and I think he has significantly better odds of winning vs Bomber than I do.
14fighter
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States226 Posts
March 02 2013 00:08 GMT
#81
On March 02 2013 09:06 Caliber wrote:
Yeah, unfortunately MLG contacted me while i was in LA for CSL Grand Finals (WoL). I was a little hesitant to accept the invite but decided to do so anyways, despite the fact that I hadn't touched HotS yet. My friend helped me train, we had about 1-2 schools and I played almost every waking hour outside of class.

Anyways, sorry for the sloppy games. I really had no clue how to handle swarm hosts, but I am also thankful that I lost. Goswer deserves it much more than I do and I think he has significantly better odds of winning vs Bomber than I do.

Your play was excellent despite your lack of experience, you have nothing to feel bad about. I honestly expected him to 3-0 you I was impressed that you almost beat him.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 02 2013 00:17 GMT
#82
On March 02 2013 09:06 Caliber wrote:
Yeah, unfortunately MLG contacted me while i was in LA for CSL Grand Finals (WoL). I was a little hesitant to accept the invite but decided to do so anyways, despite the fact that I hadn't touched HotS yet. My friend helped me train, we had about 1-2 schools and I played almost every waking hour outside of class.

Anyways, sorry for the sloppy games. I really had no clue how to handle swarm hosts, but I am also thankful that I lost. Goswer deserves it much more than I do and I think he has significantly better odds of winning vs Bomber than I do.

ouwww now you made me feel bad for my post.
i think you did a good job considering the circumstances you put up a good fight, just train more and you'll be at the next mlg
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 02 2013 00:37 GMT
#83
High caliber for swer.
Vindicate
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
March 02 2013 00:49 GMT
#84
Classy behavior and quality play from Caliber. I was impressed and I hope find frequent success as HotS comes out. Congrats to Goswser on the win!
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 02 2013 00:50 GMT
#85
On March 02 2013 09:06 Caliber wrote:
Yeah, unfortunately MLG contacted me while i was in LA for CSL Grand Finals (WoL). I was a little hesitant to accept the invite but decided to do so anyways, despite the fact that I hadn't touched HotS yet. My friend helped me train, we had about 1-2 schools and I played almost every waking hour outside of class.

Anyways, sorry for the sloppy games. I really had no clue how to handle swarm hosts, but I am also thankful that I lost. Goswer deserves it much more than I do and I think he has significantly better odds of winning vs Bomber than I do.

So manner, winning 2 games in those conditions is already a good result, you fought pretty well and it wasn't an easy win at all for Goswser.
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
March 02 2013 01:53 GMT
#86
Good effort Caliber, was rooting for you! Hopefully we'll see you and LighT in a lot of MLGs this year.
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a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
March 02 2013 01:57 GMT
#87
:/ Still really good job by Caliber for only playing so much :D! Gratz to goswser!
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zephiK
Profile Joined March 2012
United States372 Posts
March 02 2013 02:29 GMT
#88
On March 02 2013 09:06 Caliber wrote:
Yeah, unfortunately MLG contacted me while i was in LA for CSL Grand Finals (WoL). I was a little hesitant to accept the invite but decided to do so anyways, despite the fact that I hadn't touched HotS yet. My friend helped me train, we had about 1-2 schools and I played almost every waking hour outside of class.

Anyways, sorry for the sloppy games. I really had no clue how to handle swarm hosts, but I am also thankful that I lost. Goswer deserves it much more than I do and I think he has significantly better odds of winning vs Bomber than I do.

Wow, never actually seen how you play before but from what I can tell this is quite the nice attitude.

You just earned yourself a fan hope to see you in more events. Losing 0-2 to Goswer isn't a bad thing at all considering how well he did in the Iron Squid.
convention
Profile Joined October 2011
United States622 Posts
March 02 2013 08:56 GMT
#89
The new PvZ is so much more exciting to watch. I feel like both sides have pressure to stop the other one. Protoss doesn't put early pressure on, then zergs runaway economy will fuel a nonstop attack/remax which will most likely win. And zerg can't let the skytoss army get going. Much better than protoss has to attack before the zerg gets a runaway economy and the unstoppable deathball.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
March 02 2013 10:45 GMT
#90
On March 02 2013 11:29 zephiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 09:06 Caliber wrote:
Yeah, unfortunately MLG contacted me while i was in LA for CSL Grand Finals (WoL). I was a little hesitant to accept the invite but decided to do so anyways, despite the fact that I hadn't touched HotS yet. My friend helped me train, we had about 1-2 schools and I played almost every waking hour outside of class.

Anyways, sorry for the sloppy games. I really had no clue how to handle swarm hosts, but I am also thankful that I lost. Goswer deserves it much more than I do and I think he has significantly better odds of winning vs Bomber than I do.

Wow, never actually seen how you play before but from what I can tell this is quite the nice attitude.

You just earned yourself a fan hope to see you in more events. Losing 0-2 to Goswer isn't a bad thing at all considering how well he did in the Iron Squid.

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RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
March 02 2013 12:06 GMT
#91
never followed caliber, but i guess HotS bodes well for him. didn't he just pick up playing HotS rather recently, while goswser has been playing for months? pretty close series for amount of time put in
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