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Shrinky Dink
Profile Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
February 26 2013 08:30 GMT
#541
On February 26 2013 17:25 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:23 Shrinky Dink wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:20 Daralii wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Why do EG keep Puma if he doesnt care about wining? He actually acknolewdged this himself in several interviews.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I get the feeling EG doesn't care about results so long as their players are popular. After all, it's popularity that attracts sponsor money.


Literally the biggest retard on this site.

well, you know, there's a reason why grubby can pull sponsor money, while someone like yoda or symbol wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. popularity matters!


well, you know, you could not understand anything about how the business works and fail completely like TL does in SC2 now

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joined in 2011 and you have 22k+ posts lol...
anyone who actually put quotes here are full of lawls
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
February 26 2013 08:30 GMT
#542
EG-TL's lineup is not deep enough. Stephano, HerO and Taeja are pretty good, they can be ace or second ace in other teams, but the other players won't get to play much in other teams. The other teams' second tier players are so much better.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
February 26 2013 08:30 GMT
#543
On February 26 2013 17:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
EG-TL doesn't actually have that good of a roster -
-Jaedong hasn't improved to the point he needs to yet
-Revival did well at the start but has done poorly after that
-Hero, Taeja, and Stephano are the best on the team and everyone else is just average or below average in terms of skill
- The lineup doesn't have the depth it needs to win in proleague
-Taeja is in GSL so that just leaves hero and stephano has the aces

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On February 26 2013 17:22 berf wrote:
Does Huk still show up to Proleague?

He's back in the US I believe.


Agreed...and even the 'aces' on this team haven't won consistently. It really is just disappointing overall.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
February 26 2013 08:32 GMT
#544
On February 26 2013 17:28 GulpyBlinkeyes wrote:
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On February 26 2013 17:25 aoe2fan wrote:
I am not a fan of egtl but i still feel a bit sad for them. Not as fun cheering for them to lose when they dont put up a strugle


I like EGTL a lot, but I know what you mean. I was never a Bisu fan, but I loved that he was so good because that made it that much more exciting when someone actually beat him. Now I'd never root against him because it's just sad that he's fallen so far.


Exactly the seem feeling on Bisu too.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 26 2013 08:32 GMT
#545
On February 26 2013 17:25 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:23 Shrinky Dink wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:20 Daralii wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Why do EG keep Puma if he doesnt care about wining? He actually acknolewdged this himself in several interviews.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I get the feeling EG doesn't care about results so long as their players are popular. After all, it's popularity that attracts sponsor money.


Literally the biggest retard on this site.

well, you know, there's a reason why grubby can pull sponsor money, while someone like yoda or symbol wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. popularity matters!


To be fair, Grubby got that popular because of his achievements in WC3 and has done decently in SC2. Although it is true that some players get popular due to their stream, personality , humor, ceremonies, etc. Most players still gain popularity by winning.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 08:34:22
February 26 2013 08:32 GMT
#546
On February 26 2013 17:21 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:20 Daralii wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Why do EG keep Puma if he doesnt care about wining? He actually acknolewdged this himself in several interviews.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I get the feeling EG doesn't care about results so long as their players are popular. After all, it's popularity that attracts sponsor money.


If they keep losing they will lose popularity, though.


No they won't. Idra doesn't win anything and he's still EG's most popular player or behind only stephano. I can't tell who has more fanboys, Idra or Stephano, since they both have a pretty vocal fanbase.

Alex garfield has said it himself. No sponsor has ever come to him complaining about results. EG is a marketing team first and competition team second. As long as they stream and keep themselves popular, results don't matter.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
February 26 2013 08:33 GMT
#547
Well they can bring the foreigners to get results in HoTS...

Right?
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
xhkz
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada34 Posts
February 26 2013 08:34 GMT
#548
On February 26 2013 17:26 Fionn wrote:
They're just tanking to get the #1 pick in the Proleague draft. I hear there is a Korea kid in high school who is the next Flash.


Oh I've head of him too. His name is IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ..!
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
February 26 2013 08:34 GMT
#549
On February 26 2013 17:32 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:21 Dodgin wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:20 Daralii wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Why do EG keep Puma if he doesnt care about wining? He actually acknolewdged this himself in several interviews.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I get the feeling EG doesn't care about results so long as their players are popular. After all, it's popularity that attracts sponsor money.


If they keep losing they will lose popularity, though.


No they won't. Idra doesn't win anything and he's still EG's most popular player or behind only stephano. I can't tell who has more fanboys, Idra or Stephano, since they both have a pretty vocal fanbase.


Idra is foreigner Flash in BW, so that makes sense.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
February 26 2013 08:34 GMT
#550
It is so sad that a team like EG can make so much money for playing so bad while there are other korean pros that dont get a sponsor although there are so much better.
Í wish the sponsors would give more money to tournaments and less to teams so they would have to perform to stay a progamer. And it would be better for the esport, for the viewers.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 26 2013 08:35 GMT
#551
On February 26 2013 17:32 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:21 Dodgin wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:20 Daralii wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Why do EG keep Puma if he doesnt care about wining? He actually acknolewdged this himself in several interviews.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I get the feeling EG doesn't care about results so long as their players are popular. After all, it's popularity that attracts sponsor money.


If they keep losing they will lose popularity, though.


No they won't. Idra doesn't win anything and he's still EG's most popular player or behind only stephano. I can't tell who has more fanboys, Idra or Stephano, since they both have a pretty vocal fanbase.

Alex garfield has said it himself. No sponsor has ever come to him complaining about results. EG is a marketing team first and competition team second. As long as they stream and keep themselves popular, results don't matter.


Are you sure? I remember this as well but didn't want to state it as fact since I don't remember the source.
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WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
February 26 2013 08:36 GMT
#552
Watching EG;TL has made me question if I want to watch SC2 anymore. Seeing this has made me literally queasy especially the way Puma got played with like a mouse. No this is not a retiring post or anything like that, still love SC2 and I know I wouldn't be missed anyway.

I have just been watching DOTA2 and rooting for TL and they are awesome in that game, so beautiful to watch. DOTA2 scene is far more competitive it appears, it lets Euro's and USA breathe and exist in peace (China aren't required to show how much we suck every day), team aspect is more cohesive. Beginning to far prefer DOTA2 lately.

SC2 is a better game skill-wise but the scene is depressing me with "fans" who want to jump in progamers throat to make themselves feel better and stale strategies with low chance of comebacks, DOTA2 seems like mostly way more positive and easier to come back from a bad beat.

Anyway I am just saying.
I am just depressed I'll be all right later.
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
February 26 2013 08:37 GMT
#553
On February 26 2013 17:35 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:32 Canucklehead wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:21 Dodgin wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:20 Daralii wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Why do EG keep Puma if he doesnt care about wining? He actually acknolewdged this himself in several interviews.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I get the feeling EG doesn't care about results so long as their players are popular. After all, it's popularity that attracts sponsor money.


If they keep losing they will lose popularity, though.


No they won't. Idra doesn't win anything and he's still EG's most popular player or behind only stephano. I can't tell who has more fanboys, Idra or Stephano, since they both have a pretty vocal fanbase.

Alex garfield has said it himself. No sponsor has ever come to him complaining about results. EG is a marketing team first and competition team second. As long as they stream and keep themselves popular, results don't matter.


Are you sure? I remember this as well but didn't want to state it as fact since I don't remember the source.


He said the sponsor part, but I wrote the other stuff myself.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 26 2013 08:38 GMT
#554
On February 26 2013 17:26 Fionn wrote:
They're just tanking to get the #1 pick in the Proleague draft. I hear there is a Korea kid in high school who is the next Flash.


Life is with Startale?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 26 2013 08:43 GMT
#555
On February 26 2013 17:30 Shrinky Dink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:25 opterown wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:23 Shrinky Dink wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:20 Daralii wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Why do EG keep Puma if he doesnt care about wining? He actually acknolewdged this himself in several interviews.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I get the feeling EG doesn't care about results so long as their players are popular. After all, it's popularity that attracts sponsor money.


Literally the biggest retard on this site.

well, you know, there's a reason why grubby can pull sponsor money, while someone like yoda or symbol wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. popularity matters!


well, you know, you could not understand anything about how the business works and fail completely like TL does in SC2 now

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joined in 2011 and you have 22k+ posts lol...

i think you'll find you're the one
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 26 2013 08:46 GMT
#556
On February 26 2013 17:43 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:30 Shrinky Dink wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:25 opterown wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:23 Shrinky Dink wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:20 Daralii wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Why do EG keep Puma if he doesnt care about wining? He actually acknolewdged this himself in several interviews.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I get the feeling EG doesn't care about results so long as their players are popular. After all, it's popularity that attracts sponsor money.


Literally the biggest retard on this site.

well, you know, there's a reason why grubby can pull sponsor money, while someone like yoda or symbol wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. popularity matters!


well, you know, you could not understand anything about how the business works and fail completely like TL does in SC2 now

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joined in 2011 and you have 22k+ posts lol...

i think you'll find you're the one


Leave him alone man he understands how the business works
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Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
February 26 2013 08:47 GMT
#557
On February 26 2013 17:36 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Watching EG;TL has made me question if I want to watch SC2 anymore. Seeing this has made me literally queasy especially the way Puma got played with like a mouse. No this is not a retiring post or anything like that, still love SC2 and I know I wouldn't be missed anyway.

I have just been watching DOTA2 and rooting for TL and they are awesome in that game, so beautiful to watch. DOTA2 scene is far more competitive it appears, it lets Euro's and USA breathe and exist in peace (China aren't required to show how much we suck every day), team aspect is more cohesive. Beginning to far prefer DOTA2 lately.

SC2 is a better game skill-wise but the scene is depressing me with "fans" who want to jump in progamers throat to make themselves feel better and stale strategies with low chance of comebacks, DOTA2 seems like mostly way more positive and easier to come back from a bad beat.

Anyway I am just saying.
I am just depressed I'll be all right later.


I've been watching TL's DotA 2 team also and they only have two good players... Not beautiful to watch at all. They're SC2 team is way better than their current DotA 2 team and as a follower of both I can tell you DotA 2's scene is NOT far more competitive. It might be one day but at its current state it absolutely is not. SC2 is fine, Puma and other players need to step it up but don't analyze one team (of either esport) and think that's the whole scene. There are other teams to root for in proleague if you're disappointed in EG-TL.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
February 26 2013 08:47 GMT
#558
jesus man, Jaedong lost to a noname toss...

Should have stayed in T8 to play SC2 or just go retire and play BW with Sea. Damn it, JD if you only retired and played BW, that would be aaawesome
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
February 26 2013 08:48 GMT
#559
On February 26 2013 17:47 letian wrote:
jesus man, Jaedong lost to a noname toss...

Should have stayed in T8 to play SC2 or just go retire and play BW with Sea. Damn it, JD if you only retired and played BW, that would be aaawesome


Pretty sure the contract he signed with EG pays him five times as much he could make in amateur BW tournaments for the next five years, sadly.
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riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 08:54:28
February 26 2013 08:49 GMT
#560
On February 26 2013 17:21 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:20 Daralii wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Why do EG keep Puma if he doesnt care about wining? He actually acknolewdged this himself in several interviews.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I get the feeling EG doesn't care about results so long as their players are popular. After all, it's popularity that attracts sponsor money.


If they keep losing they will lose popularity, though.


they gain popularity because they always lose. infamously known. win or lose, they came here for exposure and experience. what matters most is you learn something from being defeated.
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