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snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
February 27 2013 03:10 GMT
#701
I really dont think its bad as it looks part of it is just randomness. Yes KT is the better team overall, but I think if they played a best of 3 series for each map EG would do better then they did although still lose.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 27 2013 03:20 GMT
#702
On February 27 2013 12:10 snakeeyez wrote:
I really dont think its bad as it looks part of it is just randomness. Yes KT is the better team overall, but I think if they played a best of 3 series for each map EG would do better then they did although still lose.


Going 0-12 though? That's not really random bad luck anymore. One team is getting repeatedly crushed by the better team.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10470 Posts
February 27 2013 04:05 GMT
#703
finally TT.TT
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
February 27 2013 04:11 GMT
#704
Sad to see the foreign organisations getting roflstomped all over , time and time again.

There is only one foreigner playing, but the chemistry just isnt right, the lineup certainly is a good one on paper, and even tho I dislike EG for their ``we have money and we can randomly add gosus`` attitude while not really caring about team atmosphere or probably even friendship, it still is annoying to see the results of this financial bond.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
nakedsurfer
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada500 Posts
February 27 2013 04:32 GMT
#705
On February 26 2013 19:18 warmus wrote:
This has reached the point where we can finally state that the casters are currently performing better than EGTL in proleague.


This is hilarious and extremely mean at the same time. I love it!
It is getting a little embarrassing at this point though. The only foreigner team with the ability to showcase its talent in proleague and doing quite the horrible job at representing
Root4Root
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12933 Posts
February 27 2013 05:22 GMT
#706
The real question is, will EG-TL and its players be as expensive as fuck as they were in the next FPL round, or will they be as cheap as they are getting demolished currently?

Maybe at 1 points Revival will finally be worth his value...
WriterMaru
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 27 2013 08:04 GMT
#707
On February 26 2013 21:37 Zerofinal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 21:34 Schelim wrote:
On February 26 2013 21:16 Kabras wrote:
lolol eztl plz lose more :D. the skill difference between kespa players and everyone else is pretty huge tho. this is pretty embarrassing already, should go back to playing Code A and foreign tourneys.

is that why kespa players keep losing in code a and up and downs?


I think because of format 1 KESPA 5GOMTV You must win all people. GOMTV can give win to other friend. However this is my assumption. This season will tell it is true or not because KESPA players are increased

that's quite an assumption to make lol
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
February 27 2013 09:45 GMT
#708
On February 27 2013 17:04 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 21:37 Zerofinal wrote:
On February 26 2013 21:34 Schelim wrote:
On February 26 2013 21:16 Kabras wrote:
lolol eztl plz lose more :D. the skill difference between kespa players and everyone else is pretty huge tho. this is pretty embarrassing already, should go back to playing Code A and foreign tourneys.

is that why kespa players keep losing in code a and up and downs?


I think because of format 1 KESPA 5GOMTV You must win all people. GOMTV can give win to other friend. However this is my assumption. This season will tell it is true or not because KESPA players are increased

that's quite an assumption to make lol


I´m not even sure I understand. But it sounds vaguely conspiratorial, so I´m in.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 27 2013 09:57 GMT
#709
On February 27 2013 17:04 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 21:37 Zerofinal wrote:
On February 26 2013 21:34 Schelim wrote:
On February 26 2013 21:16 Kabras wrote:
lolol eztl plz lose more :D. the skill difference between kespa players and everyone else is pretty huge tho. this is pretty embarrassing already, should go back to playing Code A and foreign tourneys.

is that why kespa players keep losing in code a and up and downs?


I think because of format 1 KESPA 5GOMTV You must win all people. GOMTV can give win to other friend. However this is my assumption. This season will tell it is true or not because KESPA players are increased

that's quite an assumption to make lol


lol, especially since who is who's friend is not even certain. If you read player interviews, Kespa pros also practice with eSF pros and have friendships as well.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 27 2013 09:58 GMT
#710
The plot thickens.
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-27 14:11:34
February 27 2013 13:05 GMT
#711
On February 27 2013 12:20 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 12:10 snakeeyez wrote:
I really dont think its bad as it looks part of it is just randomness. Yes KT is the better team overall, but I think if they played a best of 3 series for each map EG would do better then they did although still lose.


Going 0-12 though? That's not really random bad luck anymore. One team is getting repeatedly crushed by the better team.

P(win) ~ P (0-12) ~ 1 in X 12-game series
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
.5 ~ .0002 ~ 5000
.4 ~ .0022 ~ 455
.3 ~ .0138 ~ 73
.2 ~ .0687 ~ 15
.1 ~ .2824 ~ 4

So, assuming EGTL had a 50% chance to win each game, we'd expect this result in 1 out of 5000 (independent) 12-game series, etc.

Unless I made an error somewhere, EGTL most likely has a 10-12% (game) win chance vs KT, which leaves us with a 0.26% chance to win a Bo7 (~1 in 400). :D
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
February 27 2013 13:20 GMT
#712
On February 26 2013 23:41 Toxi78 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 21:07 Bowzar wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:32 vthree wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:25 opterown wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:23 Shrinky Dink wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:20 Daralii wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Why do EG keep Puma if he doesnt care about wining? He actually acknolewdged this himself in several interviews.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I get the feeling EG doesn't care about results so long as their players are popular. After all, it's popularity that attracts sponsor money.


Literally the biggest retard on this site.

well, you know, there's a reason why grubby can pull sponsor money, while someone like yoda or symbol wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. popularity matters!


To be fair, Grubby got that popular because of his achievements in WC3 and has done decently in SC2. Although it is true that some players get popular due to their stream, personality , humor, ceremonies, etc. Most players still gain popularity by winning.


You are so wrong about Grubby. His WC3 legend status did very little for him in the Starcraft community. I never saw his stream get over 1k views before he went to Korea and he even lost a big sponsor (Steelseries I hink?).

He has earned his popularity by doing a bunch of things like casting, practising his ass off in Korea, doing vlogs, streaming and just being himself, a really likeable guy.


http://sc2streamnumbers.com/4050/

I suggest you go there and contemplate the retardation of the number you've just pulled out of your ass.
Why do people come and invent statistics to serve their retarded arguments?
And saying Grubby's WC3 legend status did very little for him, do you even believe that yourself? lol


Why are you posting numbers from this year? I was talking about the time before he went to Korea for the first time to practice in the oGs house. He wasnt very popular back then in the community and he even lost Steelseries as a sponsor because they werent happy with his performance and ROI.

Then he improved as a player and even started casting which gave him a huge boost in popularity, he gave great interviews and people saw him at Homesory Cup and realized that he is a really cool guy. He didnt start of with 4k viewers right off the bat as soon as he switched, he got there eventually by promoting himself and improving. Legendary status means that you will always be recognizeable but it can only take you so far just look at Nada and July.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
February 27 2013 14:28 GMT
#713
On February 27 2013 22:20 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 23:41 Toxi78 wrote:
On February 26 2013 21:07 Bowzar wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:32 vthree wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:25 opterown wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:23 Shrinky Dink wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:20 Daralii wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Why do EG keep Puma if he doesnt care about wining? He actually acknolewdged this himself in several interviews.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I get the feeling EG doesn't care about results so long as their players are popular. After all, it's popularity that attracts sponsor money.


Literally the biggest retard on this site.

well, you know, there's a reason why grubby can pull sponsor money, while someone like yoda or symbol wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. popularity matters!


To be fair, Grubby got that popular because of his achievements in WC3 and has done decently in SC2. Although it is true that some players get popular due to their stream, personality , humor, ceremonies, etc. Most players still gain popularity by winning.


You are so wrong about Grubby. His WC3 legend status did very little for him in the Starcraft community. I never saw his stream get over 1k views before he went to Korea and he even lost a big sponsor (Steelseries I hink?).

He has earned his popularity by doing a bunch of things like casting, practising his ass off in Korea, doing vlogs, streaming and just being himself, a really likeable guy.


http://sc2streamnumbers.com/4050/

I suggest you go there and contemplate the retardation of the number you've just pulled out of your ass.
Why do people come and invent statistics to serve their retarded arguments?
And saying Grubby's WC3 legend status did very little for him, do you even believe that yourself? lol


Why are you posting numbers from this year? I was talking about the time before he went to Korea for the first time to practice in the oGs house. He wasnt very popular back then in the community and he even lost Steelseries as a sponsor because they werent happy with his performance and ROI.

Then he improved as a player and even started casting which gave him a huge boost in popularity, he gave great interviews and people saw him at Homesory Cup and realized that he is a really cool guy. He didnt start of with 4k viewers right off the bat as soon as he switched, he got there eventually by promoting himself and improving. Legendary status means that you will always be recognizeable but it can only take you so far just look at Nada and July.


Grubby was the paramount of his race - Orc. Like Moon was to Night Elf, Sky was to Human, Madfrog was to Undead.
Like BoxeR and Flash to Terran, saviOr and Jaedong to Zerg, Bisu and Stork to Protoss. Obviously, these are not facts and rather popular opinion, but it's interesting to note that Jaedong's debut stream after signing on EG was pulling significantly more viewers while Grubby had nowhere near that number when he first started streaming SC2.
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