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The usual: No balance whine, player bashing, caster bashing or needless Kespa vs Esf debate. -tkwl
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
February 22 2013 11:28 GMT
#1141
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
February 22 2013 11:28 GMT
#1142
On February 22 2013 20:26 klaxen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 20:25 Cokefreak wrote:
MC got outplayed.


What can toss do against mutas if blink stalker/+range phoenix don't cut it?


Templar tech is the only way. Unless you go double stargate, but its a massive gamble because if he transitions into infestors, one bad move and everything is lost.
gOst
Profile Joined June 2011
415 Posts
February 22 2013 11:28 GMT
#1143
On February 22 2013 20:24 Big-t wrote:
I don´t know... Since a few months zerg-play hurts my eyes -.-


This. Don't know if it's the infestor-bl that's made it this way but I find myself always rooting for the nonzerg-player.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 22 2013 11:29 GMT
#1144
I wish Tasteless and Artosis casted more, I love their goofy game down time banter.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
February 22 2013 11:29 GMT
#1145
On February 22 2013 20:28 TheDwf wrote:
Something bothers me. How come Protoss pros open with Phoenixes yet seem to repeatedly fail to scout Mutalisks in advance? Yonghwa vs Leenock in Code A, PartinG vs Curious yesterday, and now this game; surely you can use Phoenixes to roam around Zerg's bases to scout tech buildings and prepare a little better instead of having to flee with Probes (and still lose a dozen of them anyway) once Mutalisks show up in your main? Just laziness from Protoss or am I missing something?


I think it's because the spire comes up after the Phoenixes get pushed out of the base and go into that mode where they roam the map to kill lings by watchtowers, spot approaching armies and destroy OL:s. But you have a point.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 22 2013 11:29 GMT
#1146
On February 22 2013 20:28 TheDwf wrote:
Something bothers me. How come Protoss pros open with Phoenixes yet seem to repeatedly fail to scout Mutalisks in advance? Yonghwa vs Leenock in Code A, PartinG vs Curious yesterday, and now this game; surely you can use Phoenixes to roam around Zerg's bases to scout tech buildings and prepare a little better instead of having to flee with Probes (and still lose a dozen of them anyway) once Mutalisks show up in your main? Just laziness from Protoss or am I missing something?


They gotta go back to accounting for it. Send one of those phoenixes to suicide through zerg's bases to scout at key timings I guess. Or hallucination or smth.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
February 22 2013 11:29 GMT
#1147
On February 22 2013 20:27 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 20:25 Undead1993 wrote:
zergs going mutas against p in ro8 winrate 100%
GJGJGJGJ
/irony off

Even for RO16 actually iirc (Curious vs MC)

ye you re right man when i see this i just want to throw up playing agaisnt mutas makes me desperate
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
February 22 2013 11:29 GMT
#1148
On February 22 2013 20:27 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 20:26 klaxen wrote:
On February 22 2013 20:25 Cokefreak wrote:
MC got outplayed.


What can toss do against mutas if blink stalker/+range phoenix don't cut it?

Either go blink stalker w/ storm or 2star phoenix, don't try to do half of each or the phoenix will be useless

Korean Z's rape storm/blink with mutas on the new actual maps, and once 2star is scouted they switch to infestor.
Chicken gank op
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
February 22 2013 11:29 GMT
#1149
mc is the only protoss to open forge first and cannon before gate every game, really dont get why he does it
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 22 2013 11:29 GMT
#1150
Artosis is hilarious
AdministratorBreak the chains
Killer Instinct
Profile Joined December 2008
Romania159 Posts
February 22 2013 11:29 GMT
#1151
The Cold Light of Day 2012 - Bruce Willis died in this one
totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
February 22 2013 11:29 GMT
#1152
i don't get why people would ever think mutas are bad in zvp... remember before infestor broodlord turtle gay shit got popular, EVERY zerg was going mutas all the time. I remember some zerg owning Hero with mutas only. in the genius vs drg games (not the finals, the ro32) drg went mutas all the time. it was basically the standard approach to zvp (and the most frustrating style to play against), people didn't stop doing that because it's bad, they stopped it because gay mass infestor was even better in some ways. now that winfestors got a huge unbelievable nerf of 1 range, people are going back to mewtas.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
February 22 2013 11:30 GMT
#1153
On February 22 2013 20:27 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 20:26 klaxen wrote:
On February 22 2013 20:25 Cokefreak wrote:
MC got outplayed.


What can toss do against mutas if blink stalker/+range phoenix don't cut it?

Either go blink stalker w/ storm or 2star phoenix, don't try to do half of each or the phoenix will be useless


Yeah, and MC traded away all his Penix in an unfavourable trade in the map corner, he had 1 left when the 13+ new mutas arrived. Also he split up his armies in an anti-air and anti-ground group... Not a very good choice, since naturally the fast mutas will go for the ground army.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 22 2013 11:30 GMT
#1154
If people are going to use phoenix to counter muta why not get more stargates? Pumping out one phoenix every 30 seconds or w/e the time is seems kind of silly against a 3 base zerg who double expands into muta transition. Surely more stargates or a mass blink stalker attack onto one of the hatches + cannons in base while hes making the mutas.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
February 22 2013 11:30 GMT
#1155
Wait, terran music?
The Bomber boy
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
February 22 2013 11:30 GMT
#1156
On February 22 2013 20:28 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 20:26 nojok wrote:
On February 22 2013 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Phoenixes do not counter mutas. They do naht. Scouting mutas and having mass cannons ready counters mutas.

Zerg will be too happy to see mass canons when he already has 5 bases to protoss 3. Mutas are really good on vestige.


Not just that, zerg will get 30+ mutas and roll all your cannons.


Allowing a Zerg to get 30+ mutas is just bad game sense. Kill him.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
February 22 2013 11:31 GMT
#1157
i can predict MC going into stargate every game of HoTs
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
February 22 2013 11:31 GMT
#1158
On February 22 2013 20:30 Wintex wrote:
Wait, terran music?


Cause Terran music is the best
Some times you just gotta wish...
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
February 22 2013 11:31 GMT
#1159
Stargate?! Always feels so vulnerable in the current state of the game.
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Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
February 22 2013 11:31 GMT
#1160
On February 22 2013 20:29 Belha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 20:27 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 22 2013 20:26 klaxen wrote:
On February 22 2013 20:25 Cokefreak wrote:
MC got outplayed.


What can toss do against mutas if blink stalker/+range phoenix don't cut it?

Either go blink stalker w/ storm or 2star phoenix, don't try to do half of each or the phoenix will be useless

Korean Z's rape storm/blink with mutas on the new actual maps, and once 2star is scouted they switch to infestor.

Forcing a switch to Infestor gives you time to expand though, and if you split phoenixes well in the big battle you can lift so many infestors and force wasted fungals.
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