[MLG] Soulkey vs Last - Dallas Qualifier Day 4 - Page 4

On February 08 2013 08:14 Ghanburighan wrote:


Or you build more anti-air than 1 spore... Without the medivac the hellbats just die and never catch up to drones.

On February 08 2013 08:15 Avicularia wrote:

Yea, one easy change: only helions can be put inside the medivac, and it will fix this problem.

On February 08 2013 08:16 Qikz wrote:


Hellbats won't be super nerfed. They're badly needed against toss and Blizzard knows this which is why they made them strong

Just remove the bio tag from the hellbat so they can't be healed and make it so they either take double space in hellbat form or can't be loaded as hellbat.

On February 08 2013 08:15 Avicularia wrote:

Yea, one easy change: only helions can be put inside the medivac, and it will fix this problem.

On February 08 2013 08:22 Qikz wrote:


You mean like a hydralisk, corrupter or mutalisk?

On February 08 2013 08:30 Cheerio wrote:
funny thing people were complaining that zerg got all the best stuff in hots and we didnt see any. Yet terran got some huge buffs.

On February 08 2013 08:27 playa wrote:


All of those units, minus the corrupter, were in BW. No one was opening mutas or hydras to stop drops. Dropships didn't have a speed boost ability to make them the fastest thing in the game, either. Apparently corrupters aren't very good at using in the scourge role, be it price or w/e, so all I see is every game turning into a dropship/shuttle show. There's no risk to it. No real thinking required. Nothing. Just watch the show. It's amazing... Give me something. Make the harass actually require some thought. For instance, in BW, if you were a good player and you knew you were playing a good player, you would spend some of your vessel energy to D matrix your dropships. But, even then, that wasn't a sure bet.

Now... it's a freaking joke. Child's play.

On February 08 2013 08:13 blade55555 wrote:


I think it's more the speed medivac that makes the hellbat drops so strong. Even though he pulled drones you'll notice the medivac just caught up to them and dropped the hellbats on top of that. I think either hellbats can't be put in a medivac in hellbat form or that speed upgrade needs a change.

On February 08 2013 08:33 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:


Terrans and protoss got more early game options, meanwhile zergs received burrow and soon ovie speed \o/ go figure

On February 08 2013 08:36 Ghanburighan wrote:


I cannot understand how people complain about this. We are talking about tier 3 harassment (actually, tier 3 on both the starport and armory tech paths) that occurs after the 10 minute mark. It's not implausible to build defences.

Furthermore, drop play is great. Some of the best games in SC2 have involved drop play. Recall MMA v DRG. That series was brilliant because of MMAs drop play. What about Innovation v Taeja this morning? It was Innovations aggressive stances, also utilizing dropships, that led the casting archon to say "The best game of TvT I have ever casted". Now you want less drop play (to the extent that people suggest hellbats shouldn't fit in medivacs). What's the alternative, we have each side compose a deathball and have at it?

We had six months of PvZ, I say enough is enough.

On February 08 2013 08:59 Cheerio wrote:
watching Rules of Engagement. So axslav is telling that the only way to effectively handle the hellbat drop is to prevent them being dropped in the mineral because after that the drop is already successful. There are some really weird ways of doing that as a terran but zerg is pretty much screwed because well... no good AA.