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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 07 2013 23:54 GMT
#2681
On February 08 2013 08:51 furerkip wrote:
Guys, DRG must suck as much as Stephano, he went 3-4!

He definitely doesn't deserve to be in the GSL anymore and isn't a top player /sarcasm.


He didn't go out in the ro32
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
February 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#2682
Man, Bogus is something else. He reminds me a little bit of the way Mvp used to play the matchup back when he was in top form. Excellent macro and airtight defense combined with good pushes backed up by well-timed drops.

Now I just want to see what he looks like in the super late game.
xHQx
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation601 Posts
February 07 2013 23:59 GMT
#2683
On February 08 2013 08:07 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 07:14 xHQx wrote:
bogus winrate in gsl is about 80% after 25 games or so right? pretty insane

dno where you got that from

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=663&part=games&vs=all&league=individual&map=any&from_year=2012&from_month=5&from_day=20&to_year=2013&to_month=2&to_day=7&action=Update

not only gsl there
in today's broadcast were some stats, just added them to today's result
are you evolving?
furerkip
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States439 Posts
February 08 2013 00:03 GMT
#2684
On February 08 2013 04:35 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 02:45 vthree wrote:
On February 08 2013 02:35 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On February 08 2013 02:10 Lysanias wrote:
On February 08 2013 02:07 mongmong wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:59 lolmlg wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:34 vthree wrote:
The funny thing is, the 'elephants' get brought up everytime there is a Kespa win. But the people who post that don't realize that unless Code S is 30/32 Kespa, the article won't be validated.

I think we all know that isn't true. There have been many instances where the better player didn't move on in GSL. The format, whether or not the players are accustomed to the format, the condition of the players on the day, and previous results (due to seeding and so on) has a large impact on who is in Code S. Requiring that the vast majority of eSF players be ousted rapidly is very unrealistic.



Hmm? 99% of the BW fanboys were saying TBLS would dominate within a month of switch.


but ... but ... sc2 is such an easy game !

And yes i remember those story's 1 month became 3 and so forth and so forth.

SC2 without a doubt is a much easier game then BW. Try rallying 8 buildings in Brood War then try rallying 8 buildings in SC2 and tell me which is easier. Also, the game being easier makes it harder for mechanically better players because a lot of their strengths have been stripped away. Ex: Clicking each and every barracks separately and pressing m to build a marine rapidly vs selecting all barracks at once and spamming mmmmmmm. Big difference there buddy. Try it.


This is such a stupid argument. Skating on ice is also mechanically harder than running. Does that mean hockey is the 'superior' game and hockey players are superior to soccer players?

This argument only makes sense if someone is playing with BW game mechanics vs someone with SC2 game mechanics. It is like saying sc2 Zerg > BW Zerg because BW zergs don't have to spread creep.

I loled at this post here. vthree definitely knows how to give me a great laugh. So, you're saying that smart casting storm isn't easier vs boxing each Templar separately and pressing the storm hot key then selecting where to storm? Lol, I guess this means that 1a+click is as easy as 1a+click+2a+click+3a+click+4a+click+5a+click huh?


Why do you want a more mechanically challenging game though? Is the purpose simply to be elitist or something? More mechanically difficult games don't really prove anything except for that people have to practice harder in the mechanics department than a game with easier mechanics. But why do you want to expand this department?

From the way everyone seems to refer to BW (I myself never having played it), it seems like a very troublesome game to like. It was more like taking an exam every game you play because you want to remember so many things.

But from my standpoint, that's like asking for a revert to the stone age in warfare because "it was harder to kill/maim people then." It took more skill to win a war in the stone age because it was hard to hurt people from what you guys say, whereas now, we don't have to worry about that, but only have to worry about the strategy involved in achieving XYZ goal.

Or like taking a math test with no calculator. It's annoying if you don't know about the tricks involved in mental math; but does the fact I solved the question slower than you because of my lack of a calculator mean that I have worse algebra/arithmetic than you? Of course not, it simply has no meaning.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
February 08 2013 00:09 GMT
#2685
rebroadcast <3
yo
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
February 08 2013 00:57 GMT
#2686
On February 07 2013 20:46 opterown wrote:
tastosis hyping bogus is fine, it just builds more hype and thus viewers for the RO8 :D


Yeah. The best part of Artosis + Tasteless is hyping up the players.

All the NesTea jokes were golden and definitely fit (especially in the GSL where Nestea did not lose a single game):

Artosis (after Nestea takes 2-3 games off of Losira in the finals) - This game shouldn't even be called StarCraft II anymore... it should be called Nestea beating up nerds part 2.

Hype helps StarCraft II stay alive!
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
bsdaemon
Profile Joined July 2012
618 Posts
February 08 2013 01:02 GMT
#2687
Wow the restream is stuttering so bad.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
February 08 2013 01:04 GMT
#2688
Lagggggg
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
February 08 2013 01:04 GMT
#2689
On February 08 2013 10:02 bsdaemon wrote:
Wow the restream is stuttering so bad.


Yeah, same deal for me .
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 01:28:45
February 08 2013 01:15 GMT
#2690
GOM says that the lag occurred only on this game. It occurred during live broadcast this morning as well. Just gotta wait it out.

Ultras gun down a Command Centre in 2 minutes! That rush to Ultralisk!
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
February 08 2013 01:28 GMT
#2691
On February 08 2013 09:03 furerkip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 04:35 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On February 08 2013 02:45 vthree wrote:
On February 08 2013 02:35 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On February 08 2013 02:10 Lysanias wrote:
On February 08 2013 02:07 mongmong wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:59 lolmlg wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:34 vthree wrote:
The funny thing is, the 'elephants' get brought up everytime there is a Kespa win. But the people who post that don't realize that unless Code S is 30/32 Kespa, the article won't be validated.

I think we all know that isn't true. There have been many instances where the better player didn't move on in GSL. The format, whether or not the players are accustomed to the format, the condition of the players on the day, and previous results (due to seeding and so on) has a large impact on who is in Code S. Requiring that the vast majority of eSF players be ousted rapidly is very unrealistic.



Hmm? 99% of the BW fanboys were saying TBLS would dominate within a month of switch.


but ... but ... sc2 is such an easy game !

And yes i remember those story's 1 month became 3 and so forth and so forth.

SC2 without a doubt is a much easier game then BW. Try rallying 8 buildings in Brood War then try rallying 8 buildings in SC2 and tell me which is easier. Also, the game being easier makes it harder for mechanically better players because a lot of their strengths have been stripped away. Ex: Clicking each and every barracks separately and pressing m to build a marine rapidly vs selecting all barracks at once and spamming mmmmmmm. Big difference there buddy. Try it.


This is such a stupid argument. Skating on ice is also mechanically harder than running. Does that mean hockey is the 'superior' game and hockey players are superior to soccer players?

This argument only makes sense if someone is playing with BW game mechanics vs someone with SC2 game mechanics. It is like saying sc2 Zerg > BW Zerg because BW zergs don't have to spread creep.

I loled at this post here. vthree definitely knows how to give me a great laugh. So, you're saying that smart casting storm isn't easier vs boxing each Templar separately and pressing the storm hot key then selecting where to storm? Lol, I guess this means that 1a+click is as easy as 1a+click+2a+click+3a+click+4a+click+5a+click huh?


Why do you want a more mechanically challenging game though? Is the purpose simply to be elitist or something? More mechanically difficult games don't really prove anything except for that people have to practice harder in the mechanics department than a game with easier mechanics. But why do you want to expand this department?

From the way everyone seems to refer to BW (I myself never having played it), it seems like a very troublesome game to like. It was more like taking an exam every game you play because you want to remember so many things.

But from my standpoint, that's like asking for a revert to the stone age in warfare because "it was harder to kill/maim people then." It took more skill to win a war in the stone age because it was hard to hurt people from what you guys say, whereas now, we don't have to worry about that, but only have to worry about the strategy involved in achieving XYZ goal.

Or like taking a math test with no calculator. It's annoying if you don't know about the tricks involved in mental math; but does the fact I solved the question slower than you because of my lack of a calculator mean that I have worse algebra/arithmetic than you? Of course not, it simply has no meaning.


Trust me, you can have BW in SC2 settings and still suck at it. Try 1 aing your whole army of dragoons into a Terran mech army or amove your whole bio army to lurkers. SC2 mechanics actually develop bad habits for you. Playing BW is like training in the time chamber under x100 gravity in DBZ and SC2 is the real world.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 08 2013 01:41 GMT
#2692
On February 08 2013 04:35 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 02:45 vthree wrote:
On February 08 2013 02:35 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On February 08 2013 02:10 Lysanias wrote:
On February 08 2013 02:07 mongmong wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:59 lolmlg wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:34 vthree wrote:
The funny thing is, the 'elephants' get brought up everytime there is a Kespa win. But the people who post that don't realize that unless Code S is 30/32 Kespa, the article won't be validated.

I think we all know that isn't true. There have been many instances where the better player didn't move on in GSL. The format, whether or not the players are accustomed to the format, the condition of the players on the day, and previous results (due to seeding and so on) has a large impact on who is in Code S. Requiring that the vast majority of eSF players be ousted rapidly is very unrealistic.



Hmm? 99% of the BW fanboys were saying TBLS would dominate within a month of switch.


but ... but ... sc2 is such an easy game !

And yes i remember those story's 1 month became 3 and so forth and so forth.

SC2 without a doubt is a much easier game then BW. Try rallying 8 buildings in Brood War then try rallying 8 buildings in SC2 and tell me which is easier. Also, the game being easier makes it harder for mechanically better players because a lot of their strengths have been stripped away. Ex: Clicking each and every barracks separately and pressing m to build a marine rapidly vs selecting all barracks at once and spamming mmmmmmm. Big difference there buddy. Try it.


This is such a stupid argument. Skating on ice is also mechanically harder than running. Does that mean hockey is the 'superior' game and hockey players are superior to soccer players?

This argument only makes sense if someone is playing with BW game mechanics vs someone with SC2 game mechanics. It is like saying sc2 Zerg > BW Zerg because BW zergs don't have to spread creep.

I loled at this post here. vthree definitely knows how to give me a great laugh. So, you're saying that smart casting storm isn't easier vs boxing each Templar separately and pressing the storm hot key then selecting where to storm? Lol, I guess this means that 1a+click is as easy as 1a+click+2a+click+3a+click+4a+click+5a+click huh?


Then maybe you should re-read your post. You just stated that SC2 is a much easier game. You never used the word 'mechanically' in your statement. I don't think anyone is arguing that SC2 is as hard as BW mechanically. All we are saying is that a harder game mechanically does not equate to a harder game overall.
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
February 08 2013 01:45 GMT
#2693
On February 08 2013 08:51 furerkip wrote:
Guys, DRG must suck as much as Stephano, he went 3-4!

He definitely doesn't deserve to be in the GSL anymore and isn't a top player /sarcasm.


I fail to see the relevance. This is RO16 and Stephano went out RO32..because, you know, RO16 != RO32?
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
February 08 2013 01:51 GMT
#2694
Oh sweet! missed the games but I was one of the 9 people who voted Taeja+ Innovation to go through
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 08 2013 01:52 GMT
#2695
On February 08 2013 08:59 xHQx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 08:07 opterown wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:14 xHQx wrote:
bogus winrate in gsl is about 80% after 25 games or so right? pretty insane

dno where you got that from

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=663&part=games&vs=all&league=individual&map=any&from_year=2012&from_month=5&from_day=20&to_year=2013&to_month=2&to_day=7&action=Update

not only gsl there
in today's broadcast were some stats, just added them to today's result

even if you exclude the ODT it's nothing like 80%
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FeltFace
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia577 Posts
February 08 2013 03:44 GMT
#2696
TaeJa into the Ro8. YEEEEEEHAAAAAAAWWW!!!
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
February 08 2013 03:55 GMT
#2697
On February 08 2013 12:44 FeltFace wrote:
TaeJa into the Ro8. YEEEEEEHAAAAAAAWWW!!!


I was very pleasantly surprised. I bought into the /wrists crowd, especially after MVP got blown out with his injuries.
@Emperor_Earth ------- "Amat Victoria Curam."
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 08 2013 03:56 GMT
#2698
Come on DRG...not like this.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
CygnusAres
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore893 Posts
February 08 2013 04:13 GMT
#2699
On February 08 2013 10:51 vol_ wrote:
Oh sweet! missed the games but I was one of the 9 people who voted Taeja+ Innovation to go through


Voted for both of them too.
"I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul" - Invictus. Favorite Players: TaeJa, Bogus, and Zest, Fighting!
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 08 2013 04:22 GMT
#2700
Anyone else having trouble accessing VODs? I got a "Sorry, wrong access" error on all of them. They were working fine 2 days ago.
Apparently I'm not alone: http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=228404&cid=0&kind=1
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