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Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
February 07 2013 14:07 GMT
#2521
Bomber finally has his moment of disappointment, and DRG gets overconfident after the perfect group selection, getting bit in the butt for the third time? Sounds like a normal day to me.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
February 07 2013 14:08 GMT
#2522
It's not unprecedented for DRG to lose this way. If anyone remembers his games vs Gumiho in the Ro4 of the GSL S1 2012, he kept losing to Gumiho's excellent multitasking and he had to use roach busts and more defensive brood lord styles to come out on top.

Drop defense against a player like Innovation is not easy, even the best zerg players will have 'lapses'. Normally this doesn't lose you the game, except if you for some reason send 4 infestors there, that's such a big mistake that you deserve to lose the game.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 07 2013 14:08 GMT
#2523
On February 07 2013 22:59 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 22:54 Lunareste wrote:
I don't know about DRG man. On the one hand he looks so solid, but then he has failed MULTIPLE times in multiple games in this season alone to multi-pronged aggression.

I don't know whether it's him just making a mistake or if he genuinely cannot keep up with the multitask of some of the top tier Terrans.

edit: I don't want this to come off as insulting to the guy either. He's got more Starcraft in his pinky than I have in my entire body. But I do have to wonder if defending against multiple drops and stopping an advancing army at the same time is just something he cannot accomplish through hand speed/mind speed right now.


i'm not sure if he is used to the kind of top tier multitasking he will face from a top-level kespa terran. Those guys are used to micromanage everything and now they suddenly have a lot of free apm from vastly easier base management and macro mechanics, so they have a ton more time to control their drops and harass.

This has always been a common expectation about KeSPA player, but so far it just isn't true. Most top KeSPA terrans have goodmultitasking, with the usual amount of silly mistakes and distractions. Certainly nothing otherwordly or never-seen before.
That might be partly due to the much higher relative dps in SC2: while it's true that basic mechanical tasks are less expensive apm-wise, battles tend to resolve faster and require a faster response.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
February 07 2013 14:12 GMT
#2524
INnoVation sounds well with code S champion...
RIP MKP
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 07 2013 14:12 GMT
#2525
On February 07 2013 23:08 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 22:59 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On February 07 2013 22:54 Lunareste wrote:
I don't know about DRG man. On the one hand he looks so solid, but then he has failed MULTIPLE times in multiple games in this season alone to multi-pronged aggression.

I don't know whether it's him just making a mistake or if he genuinely cannot keep up with the multitask of some of the top tier Terrans.

edit: I don't want this to come off as insulting to the guy either. He's got more Starcraft in his pinky than I have in my entire body. But I do have to wonder if defending against multiple drops and stopping an advancing army at the same time is just something he cannot accomplish through hand speed/mind speed right now.


i'm not sure if he is used to the kind of top tier multitasking he will face from a top-level kespa terran. Those guys are used to micromanage everything and now they suddenly have a lot of free apm from vastly easier base management and macro mechanics, so they have a ton more time to control their drops and harass.

This has always been a common expectation about KeSPA player, but so far it just isn't true. Most top KeSPA terrans have goodmultitasking, with the usual amount of silly mistakes and distractions. Certainly nothing otherwordly or never-seen before.
That might be partly due to the much higher relative dps in SC2: while it's true that basic mechanical tasks are less expensive apm-wise, battles tend to resolve faster and require a faster response.

That's a very good way to put it. That's my opinion as well. SC2 may be doesn't require as much systematic clicks and keystrokes as SC1, but I'm convinced that to play on 3 fronts, it requires a higher reaction time. For one, fungal growth doesn't exist in SC1, and is pretty fatal if you look away for like 2 seconds.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 07 2013 14:14 GMT
#2526
On February 07 2013 22:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Bomber will face HerO / Avenge in Code A
DongRaeGu will face EffOrt/ Lure in Code A


Sign me up for Bomber v HerO and DRG v EffOrt please please please. So ya Avenge and Lure, I'm going to need you both to roll over and die easy for me thanks.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
February 07 2013 14:17 GMT
#2527
On February 07 2013 23:08 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 22:59 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On February 07 2013 22:54 Lunareste wrote:
I don't know about DRG man. On the one hand he looks so solid, but then he has failed MULTIPLE times in multiple games in this season alone to multi-pronged aggression.

I don't know whether it's him just making a mistake or if he genuinely cannot keep up with the multitask of some of the top tier Terrans.

edit: I don't want this to come off as insulting to the guy either. He's got more Starcraft in his pinky than I have in my entire body. But I do have to wonder if defending against multiple drops and stopping an advancing army at the same time is just something he cannot accomplish through hand speed/mind speed right now.


i'm not sure if he is used to the kind of top tier multitasking he will face from a top-level kespa terran. Those guys are used to micromanage everything and now they suddenly have a lot of free apm from vastly easier base management and macro mechanics, so they have a ton more time to control their drops and harass.

This has always been a common expectation about KeSPA player, but so far it just isn't true. Most top KeSPA terrans have goodmultitasking, with the usual amount of silly mistakes and distractions. Certainly nothing otherwordly or never-seen before.
That might be partly due to the much higher relative dps in SC2: while it's true that basic mechanical tasks are less expensive apm-wise, battles tend to resolve faster and require a faster response.


That is true, Sc2 will punish you more per unit of time compared to bw. I have not really thought all that much about it, but very nicely put.
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 14:24:37
February 07 2013 14:20 GMT
#2528
Ah, the classic Taeja maneuver again: Lose your initial match, then make a comeback through the other matches to secure a clutch second place advancement. Ro8 once again, so awesome, Yeongseo-yah! So logically you will at least reach the semifinals now, hehe. Hopefully your wrists will hold. Please also make a return to Proleague! Hwaiting!
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 07 2013 14:21 GMT
#2529
Wait, this is Taeja's 4th consecutive Ro8, right? Not counting Blizzard Cup cause he wasn't there.
That shit is impressive.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 14:23:01
February 07 2013 14:22 GMT
#2530
On February 07 2013 23:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Wait, this is Taeja's 4th consecutive Ro8, right? Not counting Blizzard Cup cause he wasn't there.
That shit is impressive.

He lost last season in the Ro32 pretty badly, any TaeJa fan wants to forget that... But before that he was 3 time in the Ro8 in a row.
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 14:25:55
February 07 2013 14:24 GMT
#2531
Congrats to Taeja & INnoVation.

And huge thanks to Shellshock1122 for more LR greatness -- I travel an hour by subway to work in the morning so I can never watch the final match. Your LR updates/play-by-play are so well done that I find myself just as excited as if I were watching the game live...maybe even more so considering the slight delay between posts (builds suspense XD).
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 07 2013 14:27 GMT
#2532
On February 07 2013 23:22 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 23:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Wait, this is Taeja's 4th consecutive Ro8, right? Not counting Blizzard Cup cause he wasn't there.
That shit is impressive.

He lost last season in the Ro32 pretty badly, any TaeJa fan wants to forget that... But before that he was 3 time in the Ro8 in a row.


Oh right. Lol, I completely missed that season because of work, didn't see a single game. Now I always forget it existed.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
gazageiras
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland242 Posts
February 07 2013 14:31 GMT
#2533
It's Bogus man!
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
February 07 2013 14:35 GMT
#2534
On February 07 2013 23:14 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 22:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Bomber will face HerO / Avenge in Code A
DongRaeGu will face EffOrt/ Lure in Code A


Sign me up for Bomber v HerO and DRG v EffOrt please please please. So ya Avenge and Lure, I'm going to need you both to roll over and die easy for me thanks.


EffOrt vs DRG rematch plz.
Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
February 07 2013 14:35 GMT
#2535
On February 07 2013 23:24 mythandier wrote:
Congrats to Taeja & INnoVation.

And huge thanks to Shellshock1122 for more LR greatness -- I travel an hour by subway to work in the morning so I can never watch the final match. Your LR updates/play-by-play are so well done that I find myself just as excited as if I were watching the game live...maybe even more so considering the slight delay between posts (builds suspense XD).

This needs to be repeated. I'm at work during the week so I can never watch the matches live, but the LR updates are very well done. Thanks!
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
February 07 2013 14:38 GMT
#2536
Were the games as good as the Liquidpedia scores suggest?
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 07 2013 14:40 GMT
#2537
On February 07 2013 23:38 Havik_ wrote:
Were the games as good as the Liquidpedia scores suggest?


Yes. You go watch them, now.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 07 2013 14:42 GMT
#2538
On February 07 2013 23:35 Mista_Masta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 23:24 mythandier wrote:
Congrats to Taeja & INnoVation.

And huge thanks to Shellshock1122 for more LR greatness -- I travel an hour by subway to work in the morning so I can never watch the final match. Your LR updates/play-by-play are so well done that I find myself just as excited as if I were watching the game live...maybe even more so considering the slight delay between posts (builds suspense XD).

This needs to be repeated. I'm at work during the week so I can never watch the matches live, but the LR updates are very well done. Thanks!

You're welcome! Glad I can help out. I've been there and I know how much it sucks to not be able to watch live
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CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 14:43:27
February 07 2013 14:42 GMT
#2539
On February 07 2013 23:38 Havik_ wrote:
Were the games as good as the Liquidpedia scores suggest?

Yes, exept maybe the first series between Bomber and DRG (Because DRG just played too strong for Bomber). But TaeJa-INnoVation and TaeJa-DRG were really good series. DRG-INnoVation and TaeJa-Bomber were also really good but not as close.
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
February 07 2013 14:47 GMT
#2540
Gogo terrans!!
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