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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On February 02 2013 16:16 dynwar7 wrote: Mohdoo, are you being serious? Look how many people are arguing against you...just stop it. I know right? When more people think something that guarantees it to be correct! | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
Parting on the other hand has lost to a few terrans lately. Good terrans sure. I still honestly think he's some of the best PvT around. But Bomber is some other level of TvP. | ||
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ETisME
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
Soulkey/Symbol Losira/MC Life/Parting | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
Life can have nerves of steel at times. I mean he was down to Leenock 3-0 was it and then he came back? Same with some of his other matches but this is a BO3 with other Zergs players and his style is already out there. Scouting is something major imo which will help someone going up against Life since you can look out for runbys and such but we'll see, exciting :D | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On February 02 2013 16:16 vthree wrote: I think you mean Ro8. But that is my point, How hard is it to advance depends on from which players perspective. Let's look a more extreme example to illustrate this. If there was a group with 2 GM players and 2 bronze players. The group would be 'hard' for the bronze players while being 'easy' for the 2 GM players. Yeah you're right. Well I'm gonna get me a coffee  | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On February 02 2013 16:13 Mohdoo wrote: Thank you for the thorough explanation. You make a convincing argument and have contributed a lot to this discussion. As long as Parting's results are as they are, and Bomber's are the way his are (lets look at tournament results), the burden of proof lies on Bomber to show why he would be favored against someone who just secured an extremely lucrative contract. Why do you think it was Parting and not Bomber? Why do you think Parting has won so much and not Bomber? There is no clear indication of Bomber being a favorite, whereas there is a lot showing the opposite. Its not constructive to say I don't watch Starcraft and it doesn't support your case at all. Stop pretending its obvious when trends in the scene indicate otherwise. http://aligulac.com/ bomber has 2915 rating vP and parting has 2384 vT | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On February 02 2013 16:16 Mohdoo wrote: I think we are just using different definitions of a stacked group. I define the extent to which a group is stacked as the difficulty to advance. I think you define it as a summation of overall player quality. I do believe that according to my definition, it is the most stacked group. And by your (assumed) definition, the DRG group is the most stacked. Explanation: Parting = "11" Life = "11" ... Highest otherwise "rating", 9.5. I consider them a step ahead, especially in a GSL environment where preparation is so important. However, if summing "rating", I do agree that the DRG group has the highest sum. However, if we are to use my definition, I do think any other player has the lowest chance of advancing from the parting group than any other group. Then your definition is by definition wrong. There is a difference between a group with two players better then everyone else, and a group of death. | ||
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IceLemonTea23
Malaysia18 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On February 02 2013 16:17 bittman wrote: Really, I don't know when the last time Bomber lost to any Protoss was. Seriously, who did he last lose to? Parting on the other hand has lost to a few terrans lately. Good terrans sure. I still honestly think he's some of the best PvT around. But Bomber is some other level of TvP. In Korea: 12-05-22 vs. Puzzle. International: 12-11-03 vs. Daisy (but Bomber won the series anyways). | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On February 02 2013 16:17 bittman wrote: Really, I don't know when the last time Bomber lost to any Protoss was. Seriously, who did he last lose to? Parting on the other hand has lost to a few terrans lately. Good terrans sure. I still honestly think he's some of the best PvT around. But Bomber is some other level of TvP. Let's not forget how Bomber ripped Rain apart in MLG during Rain's dominance. If his TvP is much better than that, well, then ya, I would say Bomber > Parting | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On February 02 2013 16:18 bo1b wrote: Then your definition is by definition wrong. There is a difference between a group with two players better then everyone else, and a group of death. I suppose I think of it as a matter of conclusion. Who cares what the sum is if it still makes it possible for someone to advance? I think the entire point of a sum expression of "stacked'ness" is the probability of advancement. Its stacked, and as such, hard to advance. Can you really say its there exists a situation harder than Parting+Life to advance? On February 02 2013 16:16 dynwar7 wrote: Mohdoo, are you being serious? Look how many people are arguing against you...just stop it. Read through any LR thread and tell me the average poster know what they are talking about. Disagreeing with a majority of people could perhaps even be said to support my probability of being correct. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
One is in group A and the other in Group D..... | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On February 02 2013 16:21 TommyP wrote: I don't understand why people are talking about bomber and parting though. One is in group A and the other in Group D..... He said group D is the group of death because no one in group A would be favored against Life or Parting | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On February 02 2013 16:17 bittman wrote: Really, I don't know when the last time Bomber lost to any Protoss was. Seriously, who did he last lose to? Parting on the other hand has lost to a few terrans lately. Good terrans sure. I still honestly think he's some of the best PvT around. But Bomber is some other level of TvP. tear in IPTL FXO fan, come on seriously haha | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
 Also LosirA learned to chill like a boss, and he so has this group it's not even funny. MC has never beat him as i remember, his ZvZ are top notch and is ZvT looked even better. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On February 02 2013 16:21 Shellshock1122 wrote: He said group D is the group of death because no one in group A would be favored against Life or Parting Personally, I'd favor everyone in Group A over Parting lol but none over Life. | ||
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