EPT[Code S] RO32 Group H 2013 GSL Season 1 - Page 61
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:04 niteReloaded wrote: The hellions were visible for <2 seconds, IF you kept staring at his base. When it comes to stuff like th<at, I think it would be more correct to assume that a player didn't even notice it. Did he have lings at the tower? Maybe he only saw then.. he started up spines instantly @ his natural after his overlord saw them pass | ||
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thesums
Taiwan257 Posts
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Gimmeurladderpoints
Germany372 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:03 monkybone wrote: Implying MKP's macro is bad? They're actually very close, bomber just has better macro crisis management. Implying MKPs macro is leagues away from bombers macro. MKP is korean standard. Nothing more. He goes for greedy ass builds, yes. But his macro is nothing to write home about. Bomber on the other hand has always 20 more marines than he should have. Simply by force of will. | ||
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Extenz
Italy822 Posts
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:01 Tsubbi wrote: yes, overlord scouting is impossible on cloud, need to prepare otherwise if you want to be safe against that build 1. Stephano didn't even try to scout. Innovation had only helions, so overlord could get a full scout no problem 2. Zerg has a great overlord position on that map, spotting all outgoing attacks. Stephano could have put down a roach warren when he saw that and get roaches in time. Drone BBQ started after Innovation finally brought down spines and queens with helions, which takes enough time for roaches. Zergs are simply too accustomed to being bullet proof against any terran timing, Stephano was simply caught with his pants down and it is entirely his fault. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Poll: Who would you trust with your life on the line? Bomber (39) MKP (26) 65 total votes Your vote: Who would you trust with your life on the line? | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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PineapplePizza
United States749 Posts
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
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totauksz
Ghana190 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:02 Vertigro wrote: im not the only one that thinks that stephano is genuinely nervous about this? he's normally so unphased by things but let's be realistic, he knows that GSL isn't a tournament that play's to his strengths, he knows the community are going to judge him incredibly heavily on his performance and as a result, he knows the significance of these games are pretty much the biggest of his career... so cut the guy some slack, any zerg in the world can literally drop a series in Code S 0-2 but i guarantee they won't face the judgement stephano would :/ ok game 1 he got outplayed, game 2 he got hit by unscouted cheese, this happens literally to every player, DRG got raped by Flash's tank only build, Taeja got owned by Rain's storm drops, Rain got raped by leenock's cheese etc etc. world's best players get "bopped" like this every week, but since it's the best foreigner now, the thread is full of retardation, it's kind of expected | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:03 Dodgin wrote: 100% untrue, most korean terrans even some in code S have awful macro compared to bomber not really........all code S level terrans have good macro, bomber is slightly better than most but mkp isnt that far behind in terms of macro | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:05 Fionn wrote: Poll: Who would you trust with your life on the line? Bomber (39) MKP (26) 65 total votes Your vote: Who would you trust with your life on the line? If I'm going to die anyways I might as well die watching MKP play. unless it's TvZ, then I choose Bomber | ||
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:06 dynwar7 wrote: Anyone got the build order of innovation vs stephano in game 2? Was it 3 fact or 2 fact? Three | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:05 Fionn wrote: Poll: Who would you trust with your life on the line? Bomber (39) MKP (26) 65 total votes Your vote: Who would you trust with your life on the line? It's a trap,how could you possibly trust any of them* | ||
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sibs
635 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:05 Extenz wrote: and now stephano has to face drg for sure no matter what What? DRG can just win 2 games and he is qualified, he only plays DRG if DRG loses. | ||
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Deleted User 245622
184 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:05 Fionn wrote: Poll: Who would you trust with your life on the line? Bomber (39) MKP (26) 65 total votes Your vote: Who would you trust with your life on the line? no one of those... | ||
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Hiea
Denmark1538 Posts
On February 01 2013 18:59 vthree wrote: Because the map is so big that the zerg can be really greedy early and get 3 base saturation quick. And they can either to a big ling/bling/muta bust (you need to be defensive as terran) OR they can take a quick fourth and just outmacro you. Taking a fourth is really hard as terran if the zerg has his macro going early. It wasn't an issue in that game because Bogus got away with a greedy build. Things like drops are very 'snowball-y'. If first drop is successful, it leads to the 2nd drop having a higher chance of success (opponent has to rebuild drones). That is why Stephano was in trouble all game. He needed to keep remaking buildings/drones that he never had enough army to devote a separate force for defense. Because if he did, his main army is a risky from a big push. It is the same for muta v P. If the first 7-8 mutas do damage, the P is stuck remaking probes and less stalkers and the muta ball just grows. For terran the danger is that zerg can take 3 bases far easier than normal, and the danger period is defending a potentiel 3base bane/ling/muta bust, after that it turns into the terrans favor, as securing a 4th is actually really easy, its the fifth that can be tricky to get. Now, this map is more zerg favored if it's close spawn positions, as that way the zerg can always expand away from you, while on cross spawns he will also expand towards you, and it's easier to drop because it's closer for you, but still as far for the zerg. And also, you can't really go brood lords, and if you do you will force a base-trade scenario unless you're very far ahead, because the terran can just run around the zerg. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On February 01 2013 19:06 dynwar7 wrote: Anyone got the build order of innovation vs stephano in game 2? Was it 3 fact or 2 fact? 3 facts: 1 with reactor, 1 with tech lab, 1 naked | ||
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