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No balance whining, caster bashing, or player bashing in this thread.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1101
On February 01 2013 18:54 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
People need to start realizing that you can't win high level games if you can only macro and not micro or vice versa.


mkp still wins games with his micro alone


MKP has better macro than bomber.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1102
On February 01 2013 18:57 Mohdoo wrote:
Yes, please do tell me how this was innovation outplaying stephano with excellent play. Tell me how this wasn't Innovation rolling the dice to see if Stephano would do something to counter that.


both games innovation took super high risk openings to get ahead

would love to see a rematch between them latr
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1103
On February 01 2013 18:58 Waxangel wrote:
no one banned yet, gratz


The night is young.
Moderator
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1104
Korean hellions kill foreign spines
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1105
On February 01 2013 18:58 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 18:57 Mohdoo wrote:
Yes, please do tell me how this was innovation outplaying stephano with excellent play. Tell me how this wasn't Innovation rolling the dice to see if Stephano would do something to counter that.


Maybe stephano should have scouted better and not play so incredibly greedy without knowing what innovation was doing. How is that not rolling the dice by stephano?


Two players roll the dice and one ends up getting the better roll. What does that really say?
Chewie
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark708 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1106
Literally biggest drone barbecue in GSL history?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1107
On February 01 2013 18:52 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 18:48 vthree wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:47 Undead1993 wrote:
why do all zergs go for ultras nowadays :'( but good drop play by Bogus


BLs don't work well on this map.


Yeah it's why I don't get why terrans hate whirlwind. bl/corr/infestor is bad on that map xD


Because the map is so big that the zerg can be really greedy early and get 3 base saturation quick. And they can either to a big ling/bling/muta bust (you need to be defensive as terran) OR they can take a quick fourth and just outmacro you. Taking a fourth is really hard as terran if the zerg has his macro going early. It wasn't an issue in that game because Bogus got away with a greedy build.

Things like drops are very 'snowball-y'. If first drop is successful, it leads to the 2nd drop having a higher chance of success (opponent has to rebuild drones). That is why Stephano was in trouble all game. He needed to keep remaking buildings/drones that he never had enough army to devote a separate force for defense. Because if he did, his main army is a risky from a big push. It is the same for muta v P. If the first 7-8 mutas do damage, the P is stuck remaking probes and less stalkers and the muta ball just grows.
Immutant
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore201 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1108
Everytime I do this on ladder I get met by roach spam =(
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1109
GSL is a slightly harder tournament than Lone Star Clash or WCS Europe confirm/deny?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1110
On February 01 2013 18:57 Big J wrote:
But "you cannot put pressure on a Zerg early on with imba queens."

This was not “pressure,” this was an unscouted all-in, and Stephano had not 6 Queens.
webhappy
Profile Joined February 2012
20 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1111
Very good play by Innovation assuming he studied Stephano's build orders.
tylerf
Profile Joined March 2012
739 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1112
Life would have held that with 1 queen and 5 lings.
TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1113
Foreigners are just intrinsically inferior
FineAndDandy
Profile Joined January 2013
166 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1114
Stephano didn't scout correctly.
DoeniDon
Profile Joined May 2011
Switzerland100 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1115
On February 01 2013 18:58 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 18:57 Kettchup wrote:
What the hell Stephano. Worst games I've ever seen him play.


That's what happens when foreigners play koreans that aren't jetlagged.


Lol. The first game was well played by both, Bogus' drop play was just insane.

The 2nd game was just both rolling a dice and Bogus getting the better of it. Had Stephano done anything with roaches, it would've gone the other way.
Dotq
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway235 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1116
Im looking forward to the day when progamers stops rolling the dice to win games.
Goldylock
Profile Joined February 2012
36 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1117
On February 01 2013 18:51 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 18:49 Fionn wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:48 Goldylock wrote:
Wow that might be the best game of sc2 I've ever seen



it's in the top 400 of all-time for me.

keep in mind we have some people here who don't usually watch the GSL lol

I'm a pretty dedicated sc2 fan.

Maybe the game was a little one sided, but I've never seen a TvZ slugfest that was so intense and continuous.
Yernbek
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia32 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1118
i love all these idiots saying "welcome to the gsl stephano" as though stephano expected easy games against the best players in the world. kids these days and their band wagons
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1119
On February 01 2013 18:58 Waxangel wrote:
no one banned yet, gratz

Yes, WP!
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
February 01 2013 09:59 GMT
#1120
On February 01 2013 18:58 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 18:57 Mohdoo wrote:
Yes, please do tell me how this was innovation outplaying stephano with excellent play. Tell me how this wasn't Innovation rolling the dice to see if Stephano would do something to counter that.


Stephano does double upgrade lings build EVERY....SINGLE....GAME

He never bothered to switch it up EVER

lolwhat ? He has been doing roach/hydras against every Terran for a few months . Really thought he was going for it on this map .
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