On January 23 2013 21:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It's funny how only terran players have good macro. I guess it's hard to really tell with warpin rounds & zerg just making everything at once

Only protoss I ever heard people say had good macro was Parting, but only after 25 minutes into a game

Terran macro is just much more difficult than Zerg/Protoss macro. what's difficult for Zerg is hitting perfect injects and creepspread, which are frequently pointed out.

I disagree personally, I find it way easier to cue up units and rally them instead of constantly hitting warpin rounds even while fighting. Good protoss macro is actually pretty hard, requires more mouseclicks and split attention. Lategame for example there's no reason not to constantly chrono gateways if you're doing some kind of attack/harrass

The point about good terran micro is that you don't "queue up", that you only queue new units a few seconds before the constructing one is complete.

Well, you know what I mean. Of course it's difficult to master but during fights you absolutely do queue units which is what I meant. All I'm saying is that protoss macro never gets pointed out because it's hard to observe. Protoss just jumps in supply with every warpin which I guess doesn't seem as impressive as someone constantly building units

Some queue more than others, thats why there is more terran players known for their insane mechanics.

And yes, you will queue them up, but it depends on how much, do you queue 2, 3 or 4? you can see some of the terrans with the greatest mechanics (MKP, Bomber) that they just keep up in supply through constant aggression, while others start to float money.

Another point is it can also be easy to hide bad macro from terran players because they can just queue up, but that is nowhere near as good as doing it properly, as it just puts minerals where you can't see them.

Yeah that makes sense I guess, protoss can't really do that. If you're floating ressources after a warpin, you can't really hide it. You won't just make an immortal or a colossus because "I got money, guess I just build this", since protoss units are more expensive and you'll never make something you don't need and you can't queue warpins. I really wonder if someday people will start experimenting with normal gateways instead of warping in (and if that's even worth it).

I remember a game where huk queued up 4 colossi on the same robo <_<

Glubschauge

Austria1216 Posts

January 23 2013 12:40 GMT

#1363

On January 23 2013 21:40 blacksheepwall wrote:
I usually despise their early game banter, but this "What Race Would X Play" is fuckin' hilarious.

this! xD

LimitSEA

Australia9580 Posts

January 23 2013 12:40 GMT

#1364

On January 23 2013 21:40 liberate71 wrote:

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Holy ass, im glad someone else is enjoying this shit as much as me

Dude I've missed Tastosis so goddamn much. These two are on FIRE today. xD

DJHelium

Sweden13480 Posts

January 23 2013 12:40 GMT

#1365

Elton John would obviously play zerg, practicing with Losira.

Qwerty85

Croatia5536 Posts

January 23 2013 12:41 GMT

#1366

On January 23 2013 21:40 blacksheepwall wrote:
I usually despise their early game banter, but this "What Race Would X Play" is fuckin' hilarious.

Yeah but Elton John zerg? no way.....

AlternativeEgo

Sweden17309 Posts

January 23 2013 12:41 GMT

#1367

So is Bowie zerg or protoss?

FrostedMiniWheats

United States30730 Posts

January 23 2013 12:41 GMT

#1368

yes! gogo Curious :o

Sumahi

Guam5609 Posts

January 23 2013 12:41 GMT

#1369

YES! Nydus!

liberate71

Australia10252 Posts

January 23 2013 12:41 GMT

#1370

On January 23 2013 21:40 DJHelium wrote:
Elton John would obviously play zerg, practicing with Losira.

Billy Joel would practice with LosirA too

blacksheepwall

China1530 Posts

January 23 2013 12:41 GMT

#1371

Lol, dat Supply Drop (so early on).

LimitSEA

Australia9580 Posts

January 23 2013 12:41 GMT

#1372

Yessss! Nydus! Excited. :D

FrostedMiniWheats

United States30730 Posts

January 23 2013 12:42 GMT

#1373

drop dat tuma!

No 3rd for you!

kafkaesque

Germany2006 Posts

January 23 2013 12:42 GMT

#1374

On January 23 2013 21:40 LimitSEA wrote:

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Dude I've missed Tastosis so goddamn much. These two are on FIRE today. xD

Yeah, I'm constantly smiling, so great to have Tastosis back.

Badfatpanda

United States9719 Posts

January 23 2013 12:42 GMT

#1375

Still about 60s on siege, this is going to be a god tier hold or gg.

ramon

Germany4842 Posts

January 23 2013 12:42 GMT

#1376

On January 23 2013 21:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:

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On January 23 2013 21:35 Hiea wrote:

On January 23 2013 21:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:

On January 23 2013 21:28 Hiea wrote:

On January 23 2013 21:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:

On January 23 2013 21:23 Schelim wrote:

Terran macro is just much more difficult than Zerg/Protoss macro. what's difficult for Zerg is hitting perfect injects and creepspread, which are frequently pointed out.

The point about good terran micro is that you don't "queue up", that you only queue new units a few seconds before the constructing one is complete.

well, you always wanna get the extra warp in after transforming your gate and on top of that warpgates have a ~10s build time/cooldown advantage over normal gateways