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Norway25712 Posts
On December 31 2012 20:29 algue wrote:Because he is preparing a revolution in the shadows ! His time has not come yet I'm secretly hoping he'll follow in Sea's footsteps and retire back to BW. Bisu in the SSL? God damn that'd be amazing.
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Does Puma even train?
I don't understand how you can be the one harassing, kill 5+ SCVs with one reaper and end up behind in supply. He was literally more than 5 supply down before 50 supply.
Never mind the constant supply blocks or the abysmal army control.
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On December 31 2012 20:26 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 20:24 Facultyadjutant wrote:Puma threw game away way more than fantasy won it  poor puma There's a talent to making people throw games away, Fantasy made Puma look like a b-teamer It's not a question of Fantasy's talent that he dropped two medivacs worth of marines with not much else happening and Puma just flew three medivacs and two vikings into them. Puma made lots of unforced mistakes.
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I kind of have to agree that Fantasy played uninspired even though he won. His macro was poor and was only producing five marines at a time until like 19 minutes into the game when he added more rax, he should have been maxed minutes before he actually was. he choked puma out well with his contain but that game was no where near perfect by him.
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On December 31 2012 20:28 etherealfall wrote:Because he is terrible..
Comments like these make Bisu sad
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On December 31 2012 20:31 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 20:30 KristofferAG wrote:On December 31 2012 20:29 algue wrote:On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote: Why is Bisu so rarely played -.- Because he is preparing a revolution in the shadows ! His time has not come yet I'm secretly hoping he'll follow in Sea's footsteps and retire back to BW. Bisu in the SSL? God damn that'd be amazing. what is the SSL? Sonic Starleague.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Sonic's_BJ_Starleague_Season_6
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On December 31 2012 20:29 Emptyness wrote:Now let's see Taejja and his TvT, I think it will be better than Puma's, but will it be good enough to beat Jyj :p? 
Currently Taeja has one of the best records in proleague this season. He's also not facing Fantasy either, he should be able to win this. This has to be his map since he plays on Bifrost a lot, but not so much in TvT. Even still I think he can easily take out JyJ.
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On December 31 2012 20:28 Facultyadjutant wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 20:26 Scarecrow wrote:On December 31 2012 20:24 Facultyadjutant wrote:Puma threw game away way more than fantasy won it  poor puma There's a talent to making people throw games away, Fantasy made Puma look like a b-teamer Fantasy played so uninspired, Puma played so much better and got ahead at times where Fantasy should have been way further than puma, but then Puma just goes and chokes out and throws it away time after time  Obviously we weren't watching the same game. Fantasy picked a better opener, played better defense, and outclassed Puma in the art of tank wars. Puma never had a chance.
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On December 31 2012 20:30 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 20:29 Godwrath wrote:On December 31 2012 20:25 Prugelhugel wrote:On December 31 2012 20:20 Godwrath wrote:On December 31 2012 20:20 Prugelhugel wrote:On December 31 2012 20:18 freetgy wrote: what a terrible map Really? I mean, it could have some more optical candy, but... it's the first time I'm seeing a game on this map and it is great so far. Very crazy positional play, drops, army splits. That's how Starcraft 2 should be! Welcome to TvT. Not like the map is helping for that to happen, but the MU. Well, as a Random player I know a bit about TvT myself, but this game is very different. Since there is no watchtower and so much more space for drops they can't rely on one position for their whole army. This is way more refreshing than every TvT I saw recently, where it is all about "Take the watchtower", "Siege at the watchtower", "Wait for your enemy to run into your tanks" I didn't see it refreshing to be honest, i enjoyed it, but it wasn't OMG CRAZY. I think the map is good for TvT, but what makes it interesting is the MU, since they are more old school race while the others got stupidly wrong reinforcement mechanics. Watch a non TvT on this map and you will realize what i am speaking about. I think a ZvZ on this map would be fucking awesome :p
Don't think so. No ling/bling early harass promotes infestor play too much.
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On December 31 2012 20:25 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 20:25 Scorch wrote: Wow, Puma played terribly. How did he win all those tournaments? 1/1/1
Yup 1/1/1. Once it goes to 2 bases or more he is fukked
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On December 31 2012 20:29 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 20:25 Prugelhugel wrote:On December 31 2012 20:20 Godwrath wrote:On December 31 2012 20:20 Prugelhugel wrote:On December 31 2012 20:18 freetgy wrote: what a terrible map Really? I mean, it could have some more optical candy, but... it's the first time I'm seeing a game on this map and it is great so far. Very crazy positional play, drops, army splits. That's how Starcraft 2 should be! Welcome to TvT. Not like the map is helping for that to happen, but the MU. Well, as a Random player I know a bit about TvT myself, but this game is very different. Since there is no watchtower and so much more space for drops they can't rely on one position for their whole army. This is way more refreshing than every TvT I saw recently, where it is all about "Take the watchtower", "Siege at the watchtower", "Wait for your enemy to run into your tanks" I didn't see it refreshing to be honest, i enjoyed it, but it wasn't OMG CRAZY. I think the map is good for TvT, but what makes it interesting is the MU, since they are more old school race while the others got stupidly wrong reinforcement mechanics. Watch a non TvT on this map and you will realize what i am speaking about.
Hehe, as I said, that was the first game I saw on this map. Maybe TvT is the perfect matchup for it. I can imagine PvZ or ZvZ being very odd on it, but as long as at least one Terran is involved, the map seems to be able to produce interesting games.
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On December 31 2012 20:25 Emzeeshady wrote:Wtf? Oo
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On December 31 2012 20:31 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 20:30 KristofferAG wrote:On December 31 2012 20:29 algue wrote:On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote: Why is Bisu so rarely played -.- Because he is preparing a revolution in the shadows ! His time has not come yet I'm secretly hoping he'll follow in Sea's footsteps and retire back to BW. Bisu in the SSL? God damn that'd be amazing. what is the SSL? Sonic Starleague. Kinda like the OSL/MSL.
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Kespa getting a lot of praise for the new maps, but you gotta remember that the league format allows some funky maps to be used. Don't expect a new metagame to come out of this, or these maps to appear on ladder or in individual tournaments any time soon.
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On December 31 2012 20:31 BackSideAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 20:28 etherealfall wrote:On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote: Why is Bisu so rarely played -.- Because he is terrible.. Comments like these make Bisu sad 
Well, we can't say other things right? He is just bad.
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Honestly, Puma made some mistakes but didn't play THAT poorly. Fantasy's TvT is really good, especially in situations like that.
Although Puma has looked a lot worse in PL games than in other tournaments, he looks super nervous when he's playing and makes some pretty terrible mistakes, on top of looking absolutely devastated when he loses. He really needs to play confidently, he has the skill to be a decent performer in PL, but he's just not doing it.
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On December 31 2012 20:33 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 20:31 BackSideAttack wrote:On December 31 2012 20:28 etherealfall wrote:On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote: Why is Bisu so rarely played -.- Because he is terrible.. Comments like these make Bisu sad  Well, we can't say other things right? He is just bad.
thats why its sad...cuz its true
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On December 31 2012 20:29 Blaine wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 20:26 blamekilly wrote:On December 31 2012 20:24 Facultyadjutant wrote:Puma threw game away way more than fantasy won it  poor puma lol are you serious? bias much? puma got outplayed hard. He flew 3 medivacs and 2 or vikings into Fanta's marines. That's when Fantasy got a clear lead in the game. Don't think we can say that he throw away the game though.
The map reminds me of that really bad map in the start of WoL. the one with the rocks in the back of your main and you had a choke at your natural.
The attack path is smaller to bounce back and forth, and the defending path is longer wich make this map really terrible in my opinion. And also drops and air is really strong on this one..
Like the first Thorzain game in proleague he played against a zerg who just went mass muta, When thorzain pushed out the zerg just went around and harrassed.
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