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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 31 2012 11:30 GMT
#501
On December 31 2012 20:29 algue wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote:
Why is Bisu so rarely played -.-


Because he is preparing a revolution in the shadows ! His time has not come yet

I'm secretly hoping he'll follow in Sea's footsteps and retire back to BW. Bisu in the SSL? God damn that'd be amazing.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
December 31 2012 11:30 GMT
#502
Does Puma even train?

I don't understand how you can be the one harassing, kill 5+ SCVs with one reaper and end up behind in supply. He was literally more than 5 supply down before 50 supply.

Never mind the constant supply blocks or the abysmal army control.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
December 31 2012 11:30 GMT
#503
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
December 31 2012 11:30 GMT
#504
On December 31 2012 20:26 Scarecrow wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:24 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Puma threw game away way more than fantasy won it poor puma

There's a talent to making people throw games away, Fantasy made Puma look like a b-teamer

It's not a question of Fantasy's talent that he dropped two medivacs worth of marines with not much else happening and Puma just flew three medivacs and two vikings into them. Puma made lots of unforced mistakes.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
December 31 2012 11:31 GMT
#505
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 31 2012 11:31 GMT
#506
I kind of have to agree that Fantasy played uninspired even though he won. His macro was poor and was only producing five marines at a time until like 19 minutes into the game when he added more rax, he should have been maxed minutes before he actually was. he choked puma out well with his contain but that game was no where near perfect by him.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
December 31 2012 11:31 GMT
#507
On December 31 2012 20:28 etherealfall wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote:
Why is Bisu so rarely played -.-


Because he is terrible..


Comments like these make Bisu sad
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
December 31 2012 11:31 GMT
#508
On December 31 2012 20:31 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:30 KristofferAG wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:29 algue wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote:
Why is Bisu so rarely played -.-


Because he is preparing a revolution in the shadows ! His time has not come yet

I'm secretly hoping he'll follow in Sea's footsteps and retire back to BW. Bisu in the SSL? God damn that'd be amazing.

what is the SSL?

Sonic Starleague.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Sonic's_BJ_Starleague_Season_6
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
December 31 2012 11:32 GMT
#509
On December 31 2012 20:29 Emptyness wrote:
Now let's see Taejja and his TvT, I think it will be better than Puma's, but will it be good enough to beat Jyj :p?



Currently Taeja has one of the best records in proleague this season. He's also not facing Fantasy either, he should be able to win this. This has to be his map since he plays on Bifrost a lot, but not so much in TvT. Even still I think he can easily take out JyJ.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
December 31 2012 11:32 GMT
#510
On December 31 2012 20:28 Facultyadjutant wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:26 Scarecrow wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:24 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Puma threw game away way more than fantasy won it poor puma

There's a talent to making people throw games away, Fantasy made Puma look like a b-teamer


Fantasy played so uninspired, Puma played so much better and got ahead at times where Fantasy should have been way further than puma, but then Puma just goes and chokes out and throws it away time after time

Obviously we weren't watching the same game. Fantasy picked a better opener, played better defense, and outclassed Puma in the art of tank wars. Puma never had a chance.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10136 Posts
December 31 2012 11:32 GMT
#511
On December 31 2012 20:30 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:29 Godwrath wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:25 Prugelhugel wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:20 Godwrath wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:20 Prugelhugel wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:18 freetgy wrote:
what a terrible map

Really?
I mean, it could have some more optical candy, but... it's the first time I'm seeing a game on this map and it is great so far. Very crazy positional play, drops, army splits. That's how Starcraft 2 should be!


Welcome to TvT. Not like the map is helping for that to happen, but the MU.


Well, as a Random player I know a bit about TvT myself, but this game is very different. Since there is no watchtower and so much more space for drops they can't rely on one position for their whole army.
This is way more refreshing than every TvT I saw recently, where it is all about "Take the watchtower", "Siege at the watchtower", "Wait for your enemy to run into your tanks"


I didn't see it refreshing to be honest, i enjoyed it, but it wasn't OMG CRAZY. I think the map is good for TvT, but what makes it interesting is the MU, since they are more old school race while the others got stupidly wrong reinforcement mechanics. Watch a non TvT on this map and you will realize what i am speaking about.

I think a ZvZ on this map would be fucking awesome :p


Don't think so. No ling/bling early harass promotes infestor play too much.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
December 31 2012 11:32 GMT
#512
On December 31 2012 20:25 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:25 Scorch wrote:
Wow, Puma played terribly. How did he win all those tournaments?

1/1/1


Yup 1/1/1. Once it goes to 2 bases or more he is fukked
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
December 31 2012 11:32 GMT
#513
On December 31 2012 20:29 Godwrath wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:25 Prugelhugel wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:20 Godwrath wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:20 Prugelhugel wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:18 freetgy wrote:
what a terrible map

Really?
I mean, it could have some more optical candy, but... it's the first time I'm seeing a game on this map and it is great so far. Very crazy positional play, drops, army splits. That's how Starcraft 2 should be!


Welcome to TvT. Not like the map is helping for that to happen, but the MU.


Well, as a Random player I know a bit about TvT myself, but this game is very different. Since there is no watchtower and so much more space for drops they can't rely on one position for their whole army.
This is way more refreshing than every TvT I saw recently, where it is all about "Take the watchtower", "Siege at the watchtower", "Wait for your enemy to run into your tanks"


I didn't see it refreshing to be honest, i enjoyed it, but it wasn't OMG CRAZY. I think the map is good for TvT, but what makes it interesting is the MU, since they are more old school race while the others got stupidly wrong reinforcement mechanics. Watch a non TvT on this map and you will realize what i am speaking about.


Hehe, as I said, that was the first game I saw on this map. Maybe TvT is the perfect matchup for it. I can imagine PvZ or ZvZ being very odd on it, but as long as at least one Terran is involved, the map seems to be able to produce interesting games.
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 31 2012 11:32 GMT
#514
On December 31 2012 20:25 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:24 Grettin wrote:
ez for TERRORIST. Booyaaaa

Wtf? Oo


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"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
December 31 2012 11:32 GMT
#515
On December 31 2012 20:31 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 20:30 KristofferAG wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:29 algue wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote:
Why is Bisu so rarely played -.-


Because he is preparing a revolution in the shadows ! His time has not come yet

I'm secretly hoping he'll follow in Sea's footsteps and retire back to BW. Bisu in the SSL? God damn that'd be amazing.

what is the SSL?

Sonic Starleague. Kinda like the OSL/MSL.
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
December 31 2012 11:33 GMT
#516
Kespa getting a lot of praise for the new maps, but you gotta remember that the league format allows some funky maps to be used. Don't expect a new metagame to come out of this, or these maps to appear on ladder or in individual tournaments any time soon.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
December 31 2012 11:33 GMT
#517
On December 31 2012 20:31 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 20:28 etherealfall wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote:
Why is Bisu so rarely played -.-


Because he is terrible..


Comments like these make Bisu sad


Well, we can't say other things right? He is just bad.
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
December 31 2012 11:33 GMT
#518
Honestly, Puma made some mistakes but didn't play THAT poorly. Fantasy's TvT is really good, especially in situations like that.

Although Puma has looked a lot worse in PL games than in other tournaments, he looks super nervous when he's playing and makes some pretty terrible mistakes, on top of looking absolutely devastated when he loses. He really needs to play confidently, he has the skill to be a decent performer in PL, but he's just not doing it.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
December 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#519
On December 31 2012 20:33 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 20:31 BackSideAttack wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:28 etherealfall wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote:
Why is Bisu so rarely played -.-


Because he is terrible..


Comments like these make Bisu sad


Well, we can't say other things right? He is just bad.


thats why its sad...cuz its true
Squide
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden141 Posts
December 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#520
On December 31 2012 20:29 Blaine wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:26 blamekilly wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:24 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Puma threw game away way more than fantasy won it poor puma



lol are you serious? bias much? puma got outplayed hard.


He flew 3 medivacs and 2 or vikings into Fanta's marines. That's when Fantasy got a clear lead in the game.
Don't think we can say that he throw away the game though.


The map reminds me of that really bad map in the start of WoL. the one with the rocks in the back of your main and you had a choke at your natural.

The attack path is smaller to bounce back and forth, and the defending path is longer wich make this map really terrible in my opinion. And also drops and air is really strong on this one..

Like the first Thorzain game in proleague he played against a zerg who just went mass muta, When thorzain pushed out the zerg just went around and harrassed.
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