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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 31 2012 11:28 GMT
#481
On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote:
Why is Bisu so rarely played -.-

Because he so rarely wins
Yhamm is the god of predictions
etherealfall
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia476 Posts
December 31 2012 11:28 GMT
#482
On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote:
Why is Bisu so rarely played -.-


Because he is terrible..
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
December 31 2012 11:28 GMT
#483
--- Nuked ---
loginn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France815 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#484
On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote:
Why is Bisu so rarely played -.-

Cause he sucks at SC2 sadly
Stephano, Taking skill to the bank since IPL3. Also Lucifron and FBH
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#485
On December 31 2012 20:27 Vertitto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 20:25 tiMelEfT wrote:
Arkanoid, best map of 2012. Every game has been very interesting.

and Bitefrost, especially for TvTs. I guess TvTs on those maps are highest up voted matches from Proleague so far.


TvT's on Planet S have been pretty good too. Woongjin HonSin's last two TvT's on Planet S were really good games.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#486
I wonder if Puma has been seriously practicing in 2012 at all. He used to be a much better player.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#487
On December 31 2012 20:27 dynwar7 wrote:
Why is Bisu so rarely played -.-


Because he is preparing a revolution in the shadows ! His time has not come yet
rly ?
duckmaster
Profile Joined August 2011
687 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#488
I think Arkanoid is a pretty boring map. That was TvT so it was still okay to watch tho
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#489
On December 31 2012 20:25 Prugelhugel wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:20 Godwrath wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:20 Prugelhugel wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:18 freetgy wrote:
what a terrible map

Really?
I mean, it could have some more optical candy, but... it's the first time I'm seeing a game on this map and it is great so far. Very crazy positional play, drops, army splits. That's how Starcraft 2 should be!


Welcome to TvT. Not like the map is helping for that to happen, but the MU.


Well, as a Random player I know a bit about TvT myself, but this game is very different. Since there is no watchtower and so much more space for drops they can't rely on one position for their whole army.
This is way more refreshing than every TvT I saw recently, where it is all about "Take the watchtower", "Siege at the watchtower", "Wait for your enemy to run into your tanks"


I didn't see it refreshing to be honest, i enjoyed it, but it wasn't OMG CRAZY. I think the map is good for TvT, but what makes it interesting is the MU, since they are more old school race while the others got stupidly wrong reinforcement mechanics. Watch a non TvT on this map and you will realize what i am speaking about.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#490
Puma manages to get an advantage in the early build openers, turn it into an upgrade advantage, and then...

completely fails to even attempt to use that advantage for twenty minutes...
finally engages in a major battle at the ONLY point in the game where he was at an upgrade DISADVANTAGE...
mismicros that same battle so that, despite heavily outnumbering his opponent, the same number of marines are actually fighting for both players...
proceeds to completely get outmaneuvered for the rest of the game by simply hoping Fantasy was making noobishly bad mistakes and finding out, over and over, that Fantasy is not a total noob...

he used to be good .
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
scoww
Profile Joined June 2012
595 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#491
oh wow, puma is still bad :/
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#492
On December 31 2012 20:27 Vertitto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 20:25 tiMelEfT wrote:
Arkanoid, best map of 2012. Every game has been very interesting.

and Bitefrost, especially for TvTs. I guess TvTs on those maps are highest up voted matches from Proleague so far.

Love 'em. So refreshing to see new maps like these.

And what's better, we get a TvT on Bifrost next.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#493
On December 31 2012 20:25 Hider wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:23 Fragile51 wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:22 Hider wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:19 RiZu wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:18 freetgy wrote:
what a terrible map

Are we watching the same game? It just that Puma isn't playing as good.


stalemale maps are always borng. We want action everywhere all the time. This map is just terribad.


I don't think you're actually watching the same game..

why are you making these kind of post? You really didn't get what I meant by stalemale?

TvT is the ultimate "stalemate" match-up. But where you say stalemate, I say positional play. When there's tanks involved, the game slows a bit, but makes positioning and decision making so much more important. That game Fantasy played safe because he knew Puma was starving. He held his advantage and put the burden and pressure on Puma to do something. And that "stalemate" would have eventually broken when Fantasy got his BCs out on the field.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#494
On December 31 2012 20:28 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 20:26 Scarecrow wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:24 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Puma threw game away way more than fantasy won it poor puma

There's a talent to making people throw games away, Fantasy made Puma look like a b-teamer


Fantasy played so uninspired, Puma played so much better and got ahead at times where Fantasy should have been way further than puma, but then Puma just goes and chokes out and throws it away time after time

I have nfi what game you were just watching.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#495
On December 31 2012 20:28 BackSideAttack wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:27 algue wrote:
Fantasy showing great drop play as always. I think that the medivac speed boost in HotS will please him


New medivac energy and speed upgrades are gonna make fantasy cum...really hard


This is too good to be true, this must be... Fantasy!
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#496
On December 31 2012 20:27 Prugelhugel wrote:
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On December 31 2012 20:25 Scorch wrote:
Wow, Puma played terribly. How did he win all those tournaments?


Very good players make good players look terrible.
Puma didn't play bad, but fantasy had the right amount of units at the right places. Maybe he is more used to playing on this map.


Exactly this. Fantasy has been an amazing terran @ sc1 and he will do great in sc2 too.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#497
Now let's see Taejja and his TvT, I think it will be better than Puma's, but will it be good enough to beat Jyj :p?

Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#498
On December 31 2012 20:28 crashonly wrote:
Stalemate maps? wtf? There were a lot of small engagements, positional plays going on in this game all the time. Much more enjoyable to watch than some stupid 200 vs 200 battle after 20 minutes of sitting in the watchtower.


I agree so much

We need more maps like whirlmwind, arkanoid... on the ladder
And less "one road to rules them all" maps
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#499
On December 31 2012 20:27 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 20:26 Za7oX wrote:
On December 31 2012 20:25 Windwaker wrote:
is fantasy in code-s?

i think he is in up&downs


When are those being played?

they start on the 6th of Jan

Fantasy has impressed me a lot. He seems to be a very tactical, smart player with sick multitasking.
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Blaine
Profile Joined February 2011
Italy188 Posts
December 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#500
On December 31 2012 20:26 blamekilly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 20:24 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Puma threw game away way more than fantasy won it poor puma



lol are you serious? bias much? puma got outplayed hard.


He flew 3 medivacs and 2 or vikings into Fanta's marines. That's when Fantasy got a clear lead in the game.
Don't think we can say that he throw away the game though.
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