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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0huKu.png) Sunday, Dec 30 5:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Round_1 ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/thumb/3/30/Writers_Icon.png/15px-Writers_Icon.png){kind=icon} ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tgjCR.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/3/36/Kr.png) Korean Stream | ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/c/c6/Uk.png) twitch.tv![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/0/0c/Vlc_ico.png) VLC Stream: http://hd.ognp2p.gscdn.com/ognsdlive![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/M55je.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ORObe.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JpEJt.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KSnJ5.png)  JangBi <Bifrost>  sKyHighStork <Planet S> BbyongKop <Arkanoid>  HydraRorO <Caldeum> SonGDuriShine <Tal'Darim Altar> EffOrtReality <Ohana> herO[jOin]+ Show Spoiler [Ace] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yTbVD.png) + Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] + + Show Spoiler [Overall Results] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MaqK8.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2aXQs.png) + Show Spoiler + | ||
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CursOr
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
Gogo CJ! | ||
opterown
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Williammm
Australia908 Posts
I can smell it | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On December 30 2012 10:46 opterown wrote: poor khan, hope they can take the win! :D Dude, no, we're both gonna cheer for CJ here. No. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 30 2012 10:52 KristofferAG wrote: Dude, no, we're both gonna cheer for CJ here. No. Everyone is cheering for Khan today so they can get a win D: | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On December 30 2012 10:55 Shellshock1122 wrote: Everyone is cheering for Khan today so they can get a win D: So we're doing charity cheering today? I'm not sure I can cheer against CJ for any reason :< | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 30 2012 10:56 KristofferAG wrote: So we're doing charity cheering today? I'm not sure I can cheer against CJ for any reason :< Nah I'm jk. Of the KeSPA teams I think CJ is probably my favorite so I hope they do well today. | ||
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RandomPlayer
Russian Federation389 Posts
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On December 30 2012 10:58 Shellshock1122 wrote: Nah I'm jk. Of the KeSPA teams I think CJ is probably my favorite so I hope they do well today. Sweet, I don't think I'd be able to fully convince myself to cheer for Khan anyway, never was a fan of them. Though Stork <3<3<3 | ||
BisuDagger
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Fionn
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On December 30 2012 11:05 Fionn wrote: Khan has the longest losing streak to start a Proleague season since 2008. ACE went 0-7 to start the season before beating Estro 3-0. It hasn't been pretty for them thus far | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
JangBi > sKyHigh Stork < Bbyong Kop > Hydra (Who is Kop btw?) RorO < SonGDuri Shine < EffOrt Reality < herO[jOin] CJ 4-2 FPL: JangBi < sKyHigh Stork < Bbyong Kop > Hydra RorO > SonGDuri Shine > EffOrt Reality < herO[jOin] Reality < herO[jOin] (maybe sKyHigh instead of herO) CJ 4-3 Head: JangBi > sKyHigh Stork > Bbyong Kop < Hydra RorO > SonGDuri Shine < EffOrt Reality < herO[jOin] RorO > herO[jOin] KHAN 4-3. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
my FPL needs it | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Stork < Bbyong Kop > Hydra RorO < SonGDuri Shine < EffOrt Reality < herO[jOin] KHAN 1 - 4 CJ | ||
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IMLyte
Canada714 Posts
JangBi > sKyHigh Stork > Bbyong Kop < Hydra RorO >SonGDuri Shine < EffOrt Reality > herO[jOin] KHAN 4 - 2 CJ Key Match is Reality vs herO if it goes into Ace match CJ wins imo | ||
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TommyP
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Zenbrez
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KJDog
United States164 Posts
JangBi < sKyHighStork < BbyongKop < HydraRorO >SonGDuriShine < EffOrtReality < herO[jOin] | ||
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Vanadium
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On December 30 2012 14:19 KJDog wrote: JangBi < sKyHighStork < BbyongKop < HydraRorO >SonGDuriShine < EffOrtReality < herO[jOin]Uhhh... there's no real need for the Reality v herO match there.  | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
 , I can feel it. | ||
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
Stork <Planet S> Bbyong Kop <Arkanoid> Hydra RorO <Caldeum> SonGDuri Shine <Tal'Darim Altar> EffOrt Reality <Ohana> herO[jOin] | ||
Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 14:20 docvoc wrote: I'm calling a khan win this time , I can feel it.That's just gas. There's no way they win here. | ||
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sitromit
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Myles
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structuralinertia
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Zenbrez
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KJDog
United States164 Posts
On December 30 2012 14:19 Vanadium wrote: Uhhh... there's no real need for the Reality v herO match there. Better? I didn't think it really mattered. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
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BretZ
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CursOr
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Stress
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Havik_
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On December 30 2012 14:36 CursOr wrote: Holy empty studio, Batman :/ More people than last match | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On December 30 2012 14:36 CursOr wrote: Holy empty studio, Batman :/ ppl really dont feel like going out on negative-degree weather on penultimate day of 2012. Better stay home and watch it on TV | ||
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TommyP
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HanFuzi
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Dodgin
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haka
United States1414 Posts
On December 30 2012 14:47 TommyP wrote: I actually love those yellow jackets CJ has under their coats also who wears coats indoors? that has to be super hot Might be too comfy to take off. The black coats look stupid, in my opinion. | ||
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Just_a_Moth
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Devise
Canada1131 Posts
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
Come on Khan!! | ||
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
On December 30 2012 14:48 Dodgin wrote: It's not even that empty actually Its half-emptyish. Was even worse during the game before. | ||
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P7GAB
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HanFuzi
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Havik_
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HanFuzi
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
they can just kill gas from air unimpeded? Maybe I just didn't know that this was common or something before >< | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
Stork <Planet S> Bbyong Kop <Arkanoid> Hydra RorO <Caldeum> SonGDuri Shine <Tal'Darim Altar> EffOrt Reality <Ohana> herO[jOin] I'd be very surprised if anyone other than RorO takes a game. Maybe Stork/Jangbi have something up their sleeves? | ||
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
I like how they're running along that small corridor. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Go Khan please ._. | ||
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HanFuzi
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Arceus
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P7GAB
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HanFuzi
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FuRong
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AndAgain
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
GOGO JANGBI AND STORK :D | ||
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Zenbrez
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HanFuzi
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forsooth
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On December 30 2012 14:58 AndAgain wrote: Wow this map is pretty broken. You need a phoenix or something to kill those banshees. Im sure this will be fixed next round. like moving the geyser back a bit or something | ||
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P7GAB
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:01 Arceus wrote: Im sure this will be fixed next round. like moving the geyser back a bit or something I like the map a lot, but there are definite issues with it. It is a big departure from the norm that we are used to in map development, that said it really needs a tuneup for next round. | ||
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HanFuzi
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:02 docvoc wrote: I like the map a lot, but there are definite issues with it. It is a big departure from the norm that we are used to in map development, that said it really needs a tuneup for next round. it should be fixed, they usually make small changes to maps between rounds. | ||
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TommyP
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Just_a_Moth
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forsooth
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CursOr
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HanFuzi
Israel80 Posts
One for Khan, let's keep it up! | ||
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Telsh
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WIllBIll
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Williammm
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Thinasy
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klops
United States674 Posts
i think i just hate bio tvp. | ||
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Myles
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sM.Zik
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Scholes
Venezuela312 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6644 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:05 TommyP wrote: no my anti team..why JangBi Your anti team just got JangBanged! Now need Stork to win and it will be a good fpl day for me :D | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
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MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:05 klops wrote: what an extremely uninteresting game. It was a little less dramatic than the single 14 minute engagement kind of game. This one went to the 22nd minute | ||
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Adersick
United States216 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:05 klops wrote: what an extremely uninteresting game. i think i just hate bio tvp. As opposed to what? | ||
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Proseat
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:06 Scholes wrote: Toss 1a pretty good Guess you missed the part where he target fired every single Viking before they could drop more than one colossus. | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:05 Telsh wrote: jangbi won a game, the world should have ended He won last week too and has been decent in SC2 overall - just pales in comparison to back to back OSL champion. | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:05 TommyP wrote: no my anti team..why JangBi in a way you deserve it for putting such a high profile player on your anti team though i am definitely not a master of anti teams, i have never had a good anti team in fpl lol | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:08 unit wrote: in a way you deserve it for putting such a high profile player on your anti team though i am definitely not a master of anti teams, i have never had a good anti team in fpl lol People with really great anti teams, scoring like 3 points over weeks, always baffle me. So lucky. | ||
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HanFuzi
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6644 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:07 Topin wrote: wow that was boring ... one atack and gg... sigh Did we watch the same game? Granted it wasn't an amazing back and forth game. But I think you missed a lot of Harrasment and small attacks on Jangbi's mineral line... | ||
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Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:09 HanFuzi wrote: I liked the harass element of the game, but it did end with a single battle .As 90% of sc2 games? | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:09 CursOr wrote: People with really great anti teams, scoring like 3 points over weeks, always baffle me. So lucky. No anti team has been safe of late. Thorzain won, Bisu won, and Jangbi is playing decent. With Stephano coming for round 2, free passes are going to be short to come by now too. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
I don't think terrans can be aggressive off 2 bases on Bifrost. The narrow choke rules out a frontal assault so drop play will be expected by the Protoss. I think it will come down to trying to delay the third while getting the right comp to engage. | ||
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proofy
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
You got this~ BByong is p good, not gonna lie, but hoping Stork can take this one. If Stork wins this, I have faith that Roro will be able to take it at least to an ace. Though in an ace match, not sure how we'd fare against Effort (probably not too hot). | ||
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polgas
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:13 Dosey wrote: No anti team has been safe of late. Thorzain won, Bisu won, and Jangbi is playing decent. With Stephano coming for round 2, free passes are going to be short to come by now too. Its not really lucky... i think over all four weeks my antiteam players have played a grand total of 2 matches of which they only won once... when you can see the lineups before you trade its really very simple | ||
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klops
United States674 Posts
as opposed to nothing - irrelevant question to my point that it was uninteresting and 9 times out of 10 ends up being so. wol tvp is just stale to me. | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
EDIT: 2 port banshee | ||
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Topin
Peru10055 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:10 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Did we watch the same game? Granted it wasn't an amazing back and forth game. But I think you missed a lot of Harrasment and small attacks on Jangbi's mineral line... you could be right but those cute moves didnt made me jump of sit, i would like to see more little fights or atacking 2 places at the same time, like you say more of a back and forth game :o) | ||
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haka
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forsooth
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Aerisky
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YOU CAN DO THIS!! Sooo sneaky though lol | ||
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Aerisky
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ROFL Stork. Well, I'll take that win anyway hahaha. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
that was so fuckin bad for me omg | ||
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haka
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HanFuzi
Israel80 Posts
Now two more and Khan has it. | ||
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haka
United States1414 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:24 MateShade wrote: does anyone know how to get korean casters? nothing personal to these guys as i know its last minute but i honestly cant stand it Check OP. VLC and dostream. | ||
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Proseat
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:24 -Strider- wrote: I don't know why I feel so excited watching the PL. Because all kill format sucks (which we're going to see next round ) | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:25 AndAgain wrote: I'm guessing Stork isn't very confident in PvT. Otherwise why would he do something so risky. Might have something to do with seeing how Skyhigh didn't see his in-base probe for so long + Stork liking cheeky/cheap tactics sometimes | ||
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Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:24 MateShade wrote: does anyone know how to get korean casters? nothing personal to these guys as i know its last minute but i honestly cant stand it http://dostream.lab.so/stream.php?from=ongamenet Bookmark it :D | ||
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GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:25 AndAgain wrote: I'm guessing Stork isn't very confident in PvT. Otherwise why would he do something so risky. It wasn't that risky. Look at the map, who would ever scout there? There was nothing to tip him off except maybe the fact that Stork didn't scout | ||
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nmetasch
United States600 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:13 Dosey wrote: No anti team has been safe of late. Thorzain won, Bisu won, and Jangbi is playing decent. With Stephano coming for round 2, free passes are going to be short to come by now too. I think Huk and Idra are pretty much safe bets, i can't imagine either seeings too much play time with the current roster.. maybe just the occasional "we need to get our foreigner out there to appease fans"... but nothing serious. I'm undecided on a 3rd anti team though lol, needs to be big enough to balance the points to 12.. | ||
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Sadist
United States7216 Posts
Just curious because sometimes the play looks mediocre. | ||
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bankobauss
204 Posts
100% of GM terrans in NA will clear their main of probes between 4-5 minutes. It is an absolute in every game, takes nothing other than a few clicks to do. The terran not doing it is the terran playing badly. but games r fun to watch regardless | ||
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nmetasch
United States600 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:25 Zenbrez wrote: Because all kill format sucks (which we're going to see next round )I think that it will be jsut as exciting as long as it is still proleague. GSTL lacks the intrigue because it takes place so late at night, and proleague is simply so many more matches before your favorite team gets knocked out.. | ||
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HanFuzi
Israel80 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:26 GhostKorean wrote: It wasn't that risky. Look at the map, who would ever scout there? There was nothing to tip him off except maybe the fact that Stork didn't scout Some players make a habit of looking around their base to make sure nothing like that happens. The starport was pretty close to scouting it too. | ||
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vthree
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:25 Zenbrez wrote: Because all kill format sucks (which we're going to see next round )Wait what why how? | ||
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Darion
Canada265 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:25 AndAgain wrote: I'm guessing Stork isn't very confident in PvT. Otherwise why would he do something so risky. He didn't start the 2-4th gates until after the probe was well hidden. He jumped at the opening presented to him, he could have easily gone into a completely different build if Bbyong had seen it. | ||
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Norway1567 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:26 nmetasch wrote: I think Huk and Idra are pretty much safe bets, i can't imagine either seeings too much play time with the current roster.. maybe just the occasional "we need to get our foreigner out there to appease fans"... but nothing serious. I'm undecided on a 3rd anti team though lol, needs to be big enough to balance the points to 12.. I think they'll be sent out a fair bit, not necessarily every match of course. I def think Idra will be played more than Huk though, he's actually not bad, Huk just plays like it's 2010-2011 and doesn't seem to recognize he needs to change his style (pvz and pvp) Wait what why how? All kill format in round 2 and round 5 (might be round 4 instead?) | ||
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TommyP
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Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
I just have to agree that this format is way better than TeamTaeja format. Here it needs a real team. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Round 2 and round 5 of PL is winners league (all kill format) | ||
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aznkukuboi
120 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:27 Sadist wrote: Anyone know how good the guys in PL are? Are they all GM on korean server? Just curious because sometimes the play looks mediocre. Bogus/Innovations is top GM. Soulkey is said to be one. | ||
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GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:27 HanFuzi wrote: Some players make a habit of looking around their base to make sure nothing like that happens. The starport was pretty close to scouting it too. Yeah I agree everyone should and they will after seeing this game lol. | ||
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-Strider-
Mexico1605 Posts
From Liquipedia: Rounds 1, 3, 4, and 6 will be best-of-seven Proleague format. Rounds 2 and 5 will be All-Kill Format. Source. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:30 vthree wrote: Round 2 and round 5 of PL is winners league (all kill format) I don't mind having two rounds of all kill in the whole season. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1948 Posts
Isn't it obvious? + Show Spoiler + No, but seriously, not trying to be a dick just too tired to explain my opinion. | ||
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nmetasch
United States600 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:29 Zenbrez wrote: I think they'll be sent out a fair bit, not necessarily every match of course. I def think Idra will be played more than Huk though, he's actually not bad, Huk just plays like it's 2010-2011 and doesn't seem to recognize he needs to change his style (pvz and pvp) One thing is for sure, the amount of foreigners in Korea next round is going to be staggering, and with some good foreigners and a lot of good koreans, its going to much harder to get fielded as the novelty foreigner. I feel like huk and idra both lack the motivation and work ethic to clinch the starting lineup, I think that thorzain has solidified the fact that he deserves a spot once every few games due to how hard he has bee working and how quickly he was ready to drop everything and go to korea. The koreans are also all doing well. And with stephano there too, its gonna be tough for idra and huk. I'm pretty sure they pick lineup based on inhouse tournaments or something ... | ||
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Sadist
United States7216 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:30 aznkukuboi wrote: Bogus/Innovations is top GM. Soulkey is said to be one. what about guys like stork/jangbi/fantasy? Im just curious if these guys are actually representative of the best players in korea or if they are playing based on Kespa connections (obviously they have huge potential, but it kinda surprises me that they are in the lineups already if they arent GM in korea or something) | ||
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Arceus
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:31 GhostKorean wrote: Yeah I agree everyone should and they will after seeing this game lol. Well, it seems like Bbyong didn't see the Stats v Bisu game yesterday. | ||
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GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:32 Sadist wrote: what about guys like stork/jangbi/fantasy? Im just curious if these guys are actually representative of the best players in korea or if they are playing based on Kespa connections (obviously they have huge potential, but it kinda surprises me that they are in the lineups already if they arent GM in korea or something) Kespa pros didn't ladder much in bw | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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HanFuzi
Israel80 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:32 GhostKorean wrote: All-kill is nice because you get to see good players all-kill is basically a one-man-team fest | ||
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oneofthem
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bankobauss
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GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:35 HanFuzi wrote: all-kill is basically a one-man-team fest not really | ||
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Sadist
United States7216 Posts
I obviously know this I just am wondering how good these guys are because some of the games I watch look like my ladder games and there have to be players in korea better than this. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:36 Sadist wrote: I obviously know this I just am wondering how good these guys are because some of the games I watch look like my ladder games and there have to be players in korea better than this.BO1 can get pretty cheesy. Makes this format very interesting. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:32 Sadist wrote: what about guys like stork/jangbi/fantasy? Im just curious if these guys are actually representative of the best players in korea or if they are playing based on Kespa connections (obviously they have huge potential, but it kinda surprises me that they are in the lineups already if they arent GM in korea or something) Well, this is PL so only Kespa teams and players (besides EGTL) play here. So the players played here are the best Kespa players. In terms of skill, the range is quite big. There are some players who are Code S level, some Code A and some not very good. But this is the case for some eSF teams as well. | ||
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BretZ
United States1510 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:36 Sadist wrote: I obviously know this I just am wondering how good these guys are because some of the games I watch look like my ladder games and there have to be players in korea better than this.How is ladder rank indicative of skill?.. | ||
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HanFuzi
Israel80 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:36 Sadist wrote: I obviously know this I just am wondering how good these guys are because some of the games I watch look like my ladder games and there have to be players in korea better than this.These guys were first class players. They just need a few months to get all of the subtleties down. | ||
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bankobauss
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
It is if your team is KT! :3 | ||
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sc2superfan101
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DMXD
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
How is anything indicative of skill? | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
well sometimes | ||
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nmetasch
United States600 Posts
hard to hear casters... | ||
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Sadist
United States7216 Posts
??????? it isn't but if you played the game at all you would imagine things like skyhigh making a critical composition mistake and this last game wouldn't happen. Its not indicative of the best players obviously but it would be indicative of a general/minimum level. Now that I realize it is basically KESPA only teams this makes sense. I'm still curious as to the skill level of the lowest players. The worst pros in BW who were only practice partners were still godly and would rape face vs just about anyone when you ran into them on iccup/pgt etc. They only looked bad by comparison to the top players. Some of these guys make mistakes that make you wonder how good they really are. | ||
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
It's not. I think he means he believes the play that some of the kespa players show wouldn't be good enough to get into GM or high masters on korea, not that being in GM shows you're better than other progamers who aren't. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:29 Taipoka wrote: I just have to agree that this format is way better than TeamTaeja format. Here it needs a real team. I'm also a bit worried about the fpl experience. Sure you could strike mad gold but all-in-all I don't really see it work out that well. Also my coffee is cold. Grumpy. | ||
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HanFuzi
Israel80 Posts
The relative skill of pros varies even day to day, based on many things. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
the key to Arkanoid for ZvT is muta nvm.... goddamnit. | ||
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Laryleprakon
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Zenbrez
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
Not even upgrade glands. whaat | ||
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Dosey
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Sadist
United States7216 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:43 HanFuzi wrote: The fact that we're used to ladder makes skill seem more static than it actually is. The relative skill of pros varies even day to day, based on many things. thats obvious. But im curious as to why some of these guys are playing in televised matches if they arent very good. Im all for giving them a chance to get better and keeping them on the roster to work their way up to the team, but some of these guys I would bet you could grab people from bnet who would be more likely to get a win for your team. Maybe they all are really good and just look bad comparatively, thats why I was asking what the skill level of some of the players was because I have no point of reference. As I said, when I would play a progamer in BW, it was pretty obvious you were playing a pro just by the way they played, you could feel it because they were able to dictate the game and reacted much faster than most non korean players did. I haven't played any korean pros in SC2 (not that im very good at this game anyway) but I was wondering if it was kinda the same thing. The whole Kespa vs Esf thing makes me curious about the skill level of the average kespa player vs a guy who is on an esf team. Seems like the kespa guys can get by on reputation and potential so just because they are on a pro team doesnt mean they are very good. I would expect the opposite for esf teams since you basically had to earn your way on since the teams have been around for quite a while now. | ||
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nmetasch
United States600 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
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CursOr
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TJ31
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BoZiffer
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blade55555
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
weirdest analogy ever... Gotta admit, I've never experience what he described | ||
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Mexico1605 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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Zinnwaldite
Norway1567 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:47 Dosey wrote: 14 minute guardians? wtf is this? Fastest Map? I miss guardians.. | ||
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Vietnam8333 Posts
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:41 Sadist wrote: ??????? it isn't but if you played the game at all you would imagine things like skyhigh making a critical composition mistake and this last game wouldn't happen. Its not indicative of the best players obviously but it would be indicative of a general/minimum level. Now that I realize it is basically KESPA only teams this makes sense. I'm still curious as to the skill level of the lowest players. The worst pros in BW who were only practice partners were still godly and would rape face vs just about anyone when you ran into them on iccup/pgt etc. They only looked bad by comparison to the top players. Some of these guys make mistakes that make you wonder how good they really are. Put it this way: GSL 2013 season 1 Code S Kespa players: Bogus, Soulkey, Roro, Baby Up and Down players: Flying, Trap. Flash, Jaedong, Fantasy, Bbyong, sOs Players who fell out of Code A last season: Jangbi, Rain, Mini, Classic, Hyvaa Players who failed to qualify for Code A by losing the final match last season: Bisang, Dear, check, Paralyze, Zero, Jaehoon, Free, Alone, s2, hoejja | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Poll: Recommend Set 3? Yes! (10) If you have time... (5) No. (3) 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend Set 3? | ||
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New Zealand3089 Posts
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sc2superfan101
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sickoota
Canada918 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:50 fuzzylogic44 wrote: Put it this way: GSL 2013 season 1 Code S Kespa players: Bogus, Soulkey, Roro, Baby Up and Down players: Flying, Trap. Flash, Jaedong, Fantasy, Bbyong, sOs I don't understand what you're trying to say...? | ||
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HanFuzi
Israel80 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:48 Sadist wrote: thats obvious. But im curious as to why some of these guys are playing in televised matches if they arent very good. Im all for giving them a chance to get better and keeping them on the roster to work their way up to the team, but some of these guys I would bet you could grab people from bnet who would be more likely to get a win for your team. Maybe they all are really good and just look bad comparatively, thats why I was asking what the skill level of some of the players was because I have no point of reference. As I said, when I would play a progamer in BW, it was pretty obvious you were playing a pro just by the way they played, you could feel it because they were able to dictate the game and reacted much faster than most non korean players did. I haven't played any korean pros in SC2 (not that im very good at this game anyway) but I was wondering if it was kinda the same thing. The whole Kespa vs Esf thing makes me curious about the skill level of the average kespa player vs a guy who is on an esf team. Seems like the kespa guys can get by on reputation and potential so just because they are on a pro team doesnt mean they are very good. I would expect the opposite for esf teams since you basically had to earn your way on since the teams have been around for quite a while now. Unrefined and crude? Perhaps. But these players are far from bad. Just because they haven't mastered the game in a few months doesn't mean they are worse than randoms on bnet. | ||
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RiceAgainst
United States1849 Posts
But nice game regardless. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:52 HanFuzi wrote: Unrefined and crude? Perhaps. But these players are far from bad. Just because they haven't mastered the game in a few months doesn't mean they are worse than randoms on bnet. That "few months of practice" excuse was old a year ago. | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:52 Dosey wrote: I don't understand what you're trying to say...? I think he's saying that that is pretty good representation at the GSL level (highest esf). so obviously some Kespa guys are really competitive with the best GSL players. which means they are, in general, competitive as a whole against esf players, skill wise. | ||
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Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:48 Sadist wrote: thats obvious. But im curious as to why some of these guys are playing in televised matches if they arent very good. Im all for giving them a chance to get better and keeping them on the roster to work their way up to the team, but some of these guys I would bet you could grab people from bnet who would be more likely to get a win for your team. Maybe they all are really good and just look bad comparatively, thats why I was asking what the skill level of some of the players was because I have no point of reference. As I said, when I would play a progamer in BW, it was pretty obvious you were playing a pro just by the way they played, you could feel it because they were able to dictate the game and reacted much faster than most non korean players did. I haven't played any korean pros in SC2 (not that im very good at this game anyway) but I was wondering if it was kinda the same thing. The whole Kespa vs Esf thing makes me curious about the skill level of the average kespa player vs a guy who is on an esf team. Seems like the kespa guys can get by on reputation and potential so just because they are on a pro team doesnt mean they are very good. I would expect the opposite for esf teams since you basically had to earn your way on since the teams have been around for quite a while now. Think this way. Good kespa players are on par with good esf players. Bad kespa players are on par with bad esf players. I think whats confusing you is that bad kespa players need to play in this format, while esf focus more on individual leagues. And team play is all-kill format. | ||
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BretZ
United States1510 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:52 Dosey wrote: I don't understand what you're trying to say...? So playing the game would help me imagine skyhigh's mistake in his composition lol? This makes no sense | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:54 sc2superfan101 wrote: I think he's saying that that is pretty good representation at the GSL level (highest esf). so obviously some Kespa guys are really competitive with the best GSL players. which means they are, in general, competitive as a whole against esf players, skill wise. That logic is so flawed. Yes, the top Kespa players can compete with the top eSF players. But right now, the 30th eSF player is much better than the 30th Kespa player. | ||
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nmetasch
United States600 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:54 Taipoka wrote: Think this way. Good kespa players are on par with good esf players. Bad kespa players are on par with bad esf players. I think whats confusing you is that bad kespa players need to play in this format, while esf focus more on individual leagues. And team play is all-kill format. I dunno man... I feel like a lineup of YongHwa, Yoda, First, Losira, Happy would pretty much destroy any KeSPA team. And that's not even playing their three champions. And ST could probably just play their ZeNEX lineup and still smash face. | ||
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Thinasy
2856 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:59 Dosey wrote: I dunno man... I feel like a lineup of YongHwa, Yoda, First, Losira, Happy would pretty much destroy any KeSPA team. And that's not even playing their three champions. And ST could probably just play their ZeNEX lineup and still smash face. Unfortunately IM lineup sucks in GSTL | ||
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Sadist
United States7216 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:56 vthree wrote: That logic is so flawed. Yes, the top Kespa players can compete with the top eSF players. But right now, the 30th eSF player is much better than the 30th Kespa player. OK this makes sense. This is basically how I assumed it was but I wasn't sure. I know guys like Rain are doing great so the top kespa guys can compete with the top esf guys. I was just curious about the bottom tier since you dont really see these guys playing against esf players. | ||
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Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:59 Dosey wrote: I dunno man... I feel like a lineup of YongHwa, Yoda, First, Losira, Happy would pretty much destroy any KeSPA team. And that's not even playing their three champions. And ST could probably just play their ZeNEX lineup and still smash face. It doesnt change my point :D I dont see a bad player in this ST lineup :D | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:56 vthree wrote: That logic is so flawed. Yes, the top Kespa players can compete with the top eSF players. But right now, the 30th eSF player is much better than the 30th Kespa player. Yeah, I have to say that this is pretty fallacious. The reason why I say so is that Flash, JD, Fantasy can all compete at the highest level, but once you get to about 3 people down on the list, like Action, EffOrt, etc. they aren't code S level, maybe not even code A. They aren't even that far down on the list. The 30th best player for KeSPA is not as good as the 30th best player for eSF. IMO, once you get past maybe the top 15 or so, it really drops off. With time we might see a difference, but for right now I don't think we can argue that they are the same. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:57 nmetasch wrote: Ok, I really don't like the caster that doesn't speak English as well... Hes always such a dick to the other caster, totally publicly too. It's almost unacceptable, I would have some choice words for him after the cast -_- He's a good guy, he's not being "rude" on purpose. But I'm not too fond of him thus far. I like Whiplash though | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
But I think IM's line up actually does better in PL format. A lot of their loses are from players getting 4 kills or AK. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:56 Hier wrote: So why did Shine shave his head? you shave your head when you decide to commit to some goals or give something a fresh start. Thats some kind of Asian ways, at least in countries influenced by buddhism | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:01 docvoc wrote: Yeah, I have to say that this is pretty fallacious. The reason why I say so is that Flash, JD, Fantasy can all compete at the highest level, but once you get to about 3 people down on the list, like Action, EffOrt, etc. they aren't code S level, maybe not even code A. They aren't even that far down on the list. The 30th best player for KeSPA is not as good as the 30th best player for eSF. IMO, once you get past maybe the top 15 or so, it really drops off. With time we might see a difference, but for right now I don't think we can argue that they are the same. I wouldn't even say those three are Consistent Code S level. JD would get smashed by any protoss with soul. Flash isn't as invincible as people make him out to be and neither is Fanta. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:01 Taipoka wrote: It doesnt change my point :D I dont see a bad player in this ST lineup :D Well, it is because you are defining the player already with good and bad. It is like saying a good Korean is on par with a good foreigner and a bad Korean is on par with a bad foreigner. Which is true as well. But you just have a lot more 'good' Koreans compare to 'good' foreigners. The only way to compare would be to see how the 20th, 30th, 40th, 50th players from both sides stack up against each other. Right now, you have to give the advantage to eSF. But I think when HoTS comes out, we will see that gap close a lot more. | ||
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HanFuzi
Israel80 Posts
By this time next year, we'll see who is on top. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
rooooooooooooooo roooooooooooooooooooooooooo he's got this, and now he can win the ace match if the other khan members fail to deliver. poor roro has been carrying his team so far this round. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
PL beast as always, just ripping through Songduri's drone counts. Guaranteed at least ace match now! | ||
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Vanadium
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On December 30 2012 16:01 Proseat wrote: herO[join] seems to be as cheerful a guy as TaeJa. Always smiling. <3 I know, right? :D It's so nice to see. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:01 Arceus wrote: you shave your head when you decide to commit to some goals or give something a fresh start. Thats some kind of Asian ways, at least in countries influenced by buddhism My first thought was a name related bald joke. He should go full Khaldor. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:25 AndAgain wrote: I'm guessing Stork isn't very confident in PvT. Otherwise why would he do something so risky. Stork wasn't afraid to throw in proxy 2 gate zealots in BW PvT once in a while (vs Hwasin on Paranoid Android being the memorable time). He was known for being especially good at PvT. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Poll: Recommend Set 4? Yes! (7) No. (3) If you have time... (3) 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Set 4? | ||
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Thinasy
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HanFuzi
Israel80 Posts
CJ has some pretty good tail-end players though. | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On December 30 2012 15:56 vthree wrote: That logic is so flawed. Yes, the top Kespa players can compete with the top eSF players. But right now, the 30th eSF player is much better than the 30th Kespa player. you're sure of that? | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Would be REALLY nice if it doesn't get to an ace match though, because Effort...wait...I traded him off my anti for Soulkey...who already won today...never mind ;___; | ||
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Vanadium
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Oh shit, gonna have to get through Effort and herO uhh... | ||
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HanFuzi
Israel80 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:11 Aerisky wrote: Yaaay Khan fans emerging from out of the woodwork :3 Hey, there's always a place in my heart for the old guard , especially when they're down in 8th place. | ||
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Thinasy
2856 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:11 Aerisky wrote: Yaaay Khan fans emerging from out of the woodwork :3 Would be REALLY nice if it doesn't get to an ace match though, because Effort...wait...I traded him off my anti for Soulkey...who already won today...never mind ;___; Well, its gonna be rough now, both effort and hero is really good, so the chances of ace feels high | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:11 Vanadium wrote: C'mon Khan! You gotta close it out now! Oh shit, gonna have to get through Effort and herO uhh... Not only is it Effort... it's Effort v Z Be afraid. Be very afraid. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
probably, considering there's at least 30 ESF players currently in code a/s and some other really good ones like Tear in code b. It's hard to say because not that many kespa players have broken into gsl yet. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
If it goes to ace, CJ definitely has the upper hand though. We'd probably have to send out Roro, but ehh. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Yes, if you look at results. There are 50 players in code S/Up and Downs. With 11 Kespa players and 30+ eSF players. Can the Kespa player take games off the eSF player? Sure. But so can the 30th rank foreigner. But overall, I would say the 30th eSF is the overall better player. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:13 Dodgin wrote: probably, considering there's at least 30 ESF players currently in code a/s and some other really good ones like Tear in code b. It's hard to say because not that many kespa players have broken into gsl yet. I would love to see how guys like Dear and Action perform in GSL. I feel like Action is A LOT better than people think. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:14 vthree wrote: Yes, if you look at results. There are 50 players in code S/Up and Downs. With 11 Kespa players and 30+ eSF players. Can the Kespa player take games off the eSF player? Sure. But so can the 30th rank foreigner. But overall, I would say the 30th eSF is the overall better player. "Taking games off" isn't indicative of anything. Combatex took a game off Parting in a Bo3. It's a poor standard to judge things by. | ||
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GTPGlitch
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On December 30 2012 16:01 Taipoka wrote: It doesnt change my point :D I dont see a bad player in this ST lineup :D then you're smoking something. Life is the only zenex player to really show consistent good form-suhosin beat GS(TL) and did some damage to NSHoseo and then nothing. Hack isn't bad, but doesn't seem to have enough oomph to get any better than solid. Brain and Treme could be getting pretty good, but still haven't seen any good performances in tournaments. If Startale was going to be a strong force in PL, They would need to play Bomber/Parting/Squirtle/Life/Curious/Hack lineup and occasionally exchange either parting, hack, or life to play a sniper (which would most likely be where suhosin would come in (or, less probable, one of the lesser zenex players). In PL format, I would bet that T8 could take on startale pretty evenly~ | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:14 vthree wrote: Yes, if you look at results. There are 50 players in code S/Up and Downs. With 11 Kespa players and 30+ eSF players. Can the Kespa player take games off the eSF player? Sure. But so can the 30th rank foreigner. But overall, I would say the 30th eSF is the overall better player. but much better? I would say that they are better, but not much better. which means that my point stands that Kespa pros are competitive. and also, your logic is also flawed. less Kespa players have even attempted to get into GSL, and further, they have had less time to establish themselves in GSL. that doesn't mean their skill is any less. | ||
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Thinasy
2856 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:16 Caihead wrote: "Taking games off" isn't indicative of anything. Combatex took a game off Parting in a Bo3. It's a poor standard to judge things by. Caihead knows whats up | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:16 Caihead wrote: "Taking games off" isn't indicative of anything. Combatex took a game off Parting in a Bo3. It's a poor standard to judge things by. Did you read my post at all? | ||
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Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:06 vthree wrote: Well, it is because you are defining the player already with good and bad. It is like saying a good Korean is on par with a good foreigner and a bad Korean is on par with a bad foreigner. Which is true as well. But you just have a lot more 'good' Koreans compare to 'good' foreigners. The only way to compare would be to see how the 20th, 30th, 40th, 50th players from both sides stack up against each other. Right now, you have to give the advantage to eSF. But I think when HoTS comes out, we will see that gap close a lot more. Its fair. And thats my point about the original comment but with other point of view. Not about quantity but just quality. bad = bad, good = good But appart from ST, i dont see other esf team with a lineup with players on the same level. Even if its a better level than kespa teams, it still have a big difference between players in the same team. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:16 GTPGlitch wrote: lists 5 Code S level players from ST then says T8 would beat them Wat? | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:11 Aerisky wrote: Yaaay Khan fans emerging from out of the woodwork :3 Would be REALLY nice if it doesn't get to an ace match though, because Effort...wait...I traded him off my anti for Soulkey...who already won today...never mind ;___; effort in ace match would be free win for khan you just have to send a protoss | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:17 sc2superfan101 wrote: but much better? I would say that they are better, but not much better. which means that my point stands that Kespa pros are competitive. and also, your logic is also flawed. less Kespa players have even attempted to get into GSL, and further, they have had less time to establish themselves in GSL. that doesn't mean their skill is any less. Almost all the Kespa pros went to the Code B qualifiers for 2 seasons... Better and much better depends on interpretation as does competitive. Are Korean better or much better than foreigners? | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:18 Harem wrote: effort in ace match would be free win for khan you just have to send a protoss OHAI Harem :D Oh hm, didn't know toss was super effective against Effort >.< perhaps we have a chance after all~ Not sure what kind of mindgames would go on, but then I suppose herO would be the one to be afraid of. | ||
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sc2superfan101
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On December 30 2012 16:13 Dodgin wrote: probably, considering there's at least 30 ESF players currently in code a/s and some other really good ones like Tear in code b. It's hard to say because not that many kespa players have broken into gsl yet. that logic is also flawed in it's own way. less Kespa players have tried to go into GSL, and have had less time to establish themselves. I might agree that esf players are better in general, but I don't think by any significant amount. edit: hmm, it seems that I might have overstated that a bit (the bolded part of my post). though I wonder how many current Code S and Code A guys would be able to get through Code B.... again, not fair to compare the different situations. | ||
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vthree
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On December 30 2012 16:17 Taipoka wrote: Its fair. And thats my point about the original comment but with other point of view. Not about quantity but just quality. bad = bad, good = good But appart from ST, i dont see other esf team with a lineup with players on the same level. Even if its a better level than kespa teams, it still have a big difference between players in the same team. IM? | ||
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Caihead
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Given a high enough sampling size anybody with in reasonable range of skill level can take games over each other, it's the win rate that matters. We don't have a big sampling size with esf / Kespa so speculation isn't relevant. Even some random masters players can "take a game" off these guys, they didn't have perfect records going up to gm in ladder. I did read your post, it's just not a good example. Is Hero / Taeja top 30 esf? I would think so, they don't have perfect records. | ||
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Aerisky
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He's always been somewhat chubby but WHAT, I practically don't even recognize him anymore. Also yay ZvZ for Harem *__*b | ||
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GTPGlitch
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In PL format, ofc. Assuming we take it by current player status, as long as baby got matched up against parting/curious and Jaehoon avoided bomber, Ryul2, speed, or terminator could take a game off of whoever is left. Terminator v Squirtle would be a pretty decent toss-up, with preparation ryul2 could come close against life or take out hack, and Speed could just pull a bravo and cheese. And alone could sixpool for the hell of it ^^ | ||
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Taipoka
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Back when nestea and LosirA was playing good, i can agree with you. But now... idk | ||
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Thinasy
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On December 30 2012 16:22 Aerisky wrote: Is it just me or did Shine get a LOT fatter?! O_O He's always been somewhat chubby but WHAT, I practically don't even recognize him anymore. Also yay ZvZ for Harem *__*b Yeah he looks even chubbier then last time he played lol | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:24 Thinasy wrote: Yeah he looks even chubbier then last time he played lol He's been feasting on ladder points,, he's gonna smash!! | ||
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blade55555
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On December 30 2012 16:17 Dodgin wrote: startale would never lose a match in proleague, you're kidding yourselves ;o I think your kidding yourself if you seriously think that xD On December 30 2012 16:25 Thinasy wrote: Have we had any non ZvZ's on TDA so far? Been some tvt's and a couple zvt's iirc. | ||
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Dodgin
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Code S level ( probably ) players playing in Proleague HerO TaeJa Soulkey Flash bbyong sOs, maybe rain fantasy herojoin jaedong maybe roro bogus I think that's it, anyone disagree? On December 30 2012 16:25 blade55555 wrote: I think your kidding yourself if you seriously think that xD they would be rank 1 easily, they can field a lineup of 5 code s players + someone pretty good every time | ||
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MY BOY PLEASE | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:25 blade55555 wrote: I think your kidding yourself if you seriously think that xD i dont think startale, MVP or TSL when they had polt would lose at this point in time and FXO wouldnt lose in teh all kill ones. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:26 Kergy wrote: SHINE MY BOY PLEASE PLEASE | ||
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vthree
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On December 30 2012 16:22 Caihead wrote: Given a high enough sampling size anybody with in reasonable range of skill level can take games over each other, it's the win rate that matters. We don't have a big sampling size with esf / Kespa so speculation isn't relevant. Even some random masters players can "take a game" off these guys, they didn't have perfect records going up to gm in ladder. I did read your post, it's just not a good example. Is Hero / Taeja top 30 esf? I would think so, they don't have perfect records. That is why I said the 30th eSF is the better overall player... I just said the take games off example in case people came here and say that Dear beat HerO which shows the 30th Kespa player is better than 30th eSF. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:23 GTPGlitch wrote: In PL format, ofc. Assuming we take it by current player status, as long as baby got matched up against parting/curious and Jaehoon avoided bomber, Ryul2, speed, or terminator could take a game off of whoever is left. Terminator v Squirtle would be a pretty decent toss-up, with preparation ryul2 could come close against life or take out hack, and Speed could just pull a bravo and cheese. And alone could sixpool for the hell of it ^^ You're grasping at straws homie. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:26 TommyP wrote: i dont think startale, MVP or TSL when they had polt would lose at this point in time and FXO wouldnt lose in teh all kill ones. To bad we'll never know at least now, I have a feeling they would lose matches, but all we can do is theorize . | ||
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Thinasy
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On December 30 2012 16:25 Dodgin wrote: ok let's do this Code S level ( probably ) players playing in Proleague HerO TaeJa Soulkey Flash bbyong sOs, maybe rain fantasy herojoin jaedong maybe roro bogus I think that's it, anyone disagree? they would be rank 1 easily, they can field a lineup of 5 code s players + someone pretty good every time Hmm, yeah i'd agree on the list, really unsure about bbyong tho I havent seen him play that many games so far, jaedong is just so sloppy 50% of the time atm | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:27 Thinasy wrote: Hmm, yeah i'd agree on the list, really unsure about bbyong tho I havent seen him play that many games so far, jaedong is just so sloppy 50% of the time atm I included bbyong because he made it from code b > a > s for 2012 season 5, dunno if he's still actually playing at code s level. we'll see soon in the up/downs. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:30 Dodgin wrote: I included bbyong because he made it from code b > a > s for 2012 season 5, dunno if he's still actually playing at code s level. we'll see soon in the up/downs. Really? thats really impressive | ||
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GTPGlitch
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Baby and Jaehoon are 2/3 wins needed for an ace match, and they get 4 more tries to get an ace-speed and terminator have both performed semi-well in Code A. Startale's lineup is fearsome in GSTL format-but in proleague I wouldn't name them the clear favorites because snipers. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:30 Caihead wrote: what's with kespa players and their reluctance to just wall off the natural with spine / queen / evo? Because queens | ||
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vthree
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On December 30 2012 16:25 Dodgin wrote: ok let's do this Code S level ( probably ) players playing in Proleague HerO TaeJa Soulkey Flash bbyong sOs, maybe rain fantasy herojoin jaedong maybe roro bogus I think that's it, anyone disagree? they would be rank 1 easily, they can field a lineup of 5 code s players + someone pretty good every time It is hard to say. We just have seen enough of some Kespa players. For example, Stats is 4-0 in PL. hard to say what level he is. | ||
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Dodgin
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yeah, he made it into code a in the season 4 prelims, then won three straight series' to make it to code s without up/downs, but he lost early in ro32 in the next season. to be fair his group was Mvp, Creator and Dongraegu. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:32 Dodgin wrote: yeah, he made it into code a in the season 4 prelims, then won three straight series' to make it to code s without up/downs, but he lost early in ro32 in the next season. to be fair his group was Mvp, Creator and Dongraegu. Oh right that grp... | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:26 vthree wrote: That is why I said the 30th eSF is the better overall player... I just said the take games off example in case people came here and say that Dear beat HerO which shows the 30th Kespa player is better than 30th eSF. That's not actually provable though, I remember watching life play in non gsl / prelims and thinking this guy might make it big one day then boom GSL champion and best zerg in the world. Before those few months no one even knew who he was. With Kespa it's the same deal, Hero[join] was a b-teamer and completely uninspired, who knows whom out of the people on the rosters are actually top 30, they might not even get play time just because of planning. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:30 GTPGlitch wrote: Baby and Jaehoon are 2/3 wins needed for an ace match, and they get 4 more tries to get an ace-speed and terminator have both performed semi-well in Code A. Startale's lineup is fearsome in GSTL format-but in proleague I wouldn't name them the clear favorites because snipers. Baby lost to hon_sin today... You make it like Baby and Jaehoon are guarantee wins... | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:31 Thinasy wrote: GG, Shine sucks at ZvZ Shine used to be good in ZvZ during broodwar.. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:34 Sawamura wrote: Shine used to be good in ZvZ during broodwar.. Might have spoken too soon | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:25 Dodgin wrote: ok let's do this Code S level ( probably ) players playing in Proleague HerO TaeJa Soulkey Flash bbyong sOs, maybe rain fantasy herojoin jaedong maybe roro bogus I think that's it, anyone disagree? they would be rank 1 easily, they can field a lineup of 5 code s players + someone pretty good every time Add baby | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:35 Dodgin wrote: if shine loses this he's 0-5 this season worse than bisu! Says alot why KHAN has been doing so badly. | ||
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vthree
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On December 30 2012 16:34 Caihead wrote: That's not actually provable though, I remember watching life play in non gsl / prelims and thinking this guy might make it big one day then boom GSL champion and best zerg in the world. Before those few months no one even knew who he was. With Kespa it's the same deal, Hero[join] was a b-teamer and completely uninspired, who knows whom out of the people on the rosters are actually top 30, they might not even get play time just because of planning. Is anything provable? Players can play head to head and you can still argue the player that lost was actually 'better'. Since there are 7 Kespa teams, ranking 30th would mean they are the 4th-5th ranked player on you team. It is likely they would be played in most matches. | ||
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oops, baby is actually Code S already for 2013 season 1, no idea how I forgot him. | ||
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Dosey
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On December 30 2012 16:38 Dodgin wrote: oops, baby is actually Code S already for 2013 season 1, no idea how I forgot him. because he's like 1-4 in regular PL matches. | ||
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CursOr
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On December 30 2012 16:38 polgas wrote: Shine is pulling tricks left and right. And EffOrt pulling ahead in every possible facet of the game... | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:39 Dosey wrote: because he's like 1-4 in regular PL matches. this super useful liquipedia section tells me he's 4-4 4-5 after today I guess http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012–2013_Proleague/Statistics | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:40 Taipoka wrote: What a nice game It's actually very well played... they aren't slacking on the details. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:40 Emzeeshady wrote: You realize that Code S is only 32 players. That means that you are saying a lot of people in Code S now are not Code S level ? Unless i am misunderstanding you. " Code S level " as in they could play games in Code S and not bomb out in ro32, if they were seeded in ( probably ) It's really the only fair method since it's only been 2 seasons since kespa started playing GSL, not enough time to shuffle around. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:42 Antisocialmunky wrote: What did effort do? I missed it. typed a / and it showed in the game. | ||
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kespa isn't THAT anal anymore | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:42 Dubzex wrote: Uh oh..... Kespa going to D/Q effort?? they didnt say nothing or pause the game so im thinking no. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:40 Dodgin wrote: this super useful liquipedia section tells me he's 4-4 4-5 after today I guess http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012–2013_Proleague/Statistics regular as in not counting ace... 2-4 in regular, 2-1 in ace | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:42 Arceus wrote: wheres the referee? KHAN got robbed of their first win Second* | ||
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docvoc
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On December 30 2012 16:42 blade55555 wrote: oh fuck I forgot this was kespa for a second. Wonder if he'll get warned. Somehow I doubt they will punish that this time, they have to win over the foreign fans now that we matter A LOT more to them than before with the whole twitch deal, though they might issue him a warning. You are probably right about that. | ||
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zaii
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Who did they beat? thought this would be their first win, If they get the last game. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:44 zaii wrote: Who did they beat? thought this would be their first win, If they get the last game. Nvm im retarded. Cant believe I actually thought we won a game | ||
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docvoc
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On December 30 2012 16:44 Promethelax wrote: DQ, ah I've almost missed these Kespa rulings. Wait what, did that actually just happen? | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:45 Emzeeshady wrote: Oh ok. Although I think I would take sOs, Jaedong and Bbyong off your list and add Stephano yeah Stephano definitely, I just didn't include him because he hasn't played in PL yet and I wasn't really thinking about eg-tl. only that hero and taeja are easily code s level and I did specify " in proleague " all three of those guys will be able to be judged better after the upcoming up/down matches, they are all in there fighting for code s. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:44 docvoc wrote: Somehow I doubt they will punish that this time, they have to win over the foreign fans now that we matter A LOT more to them than before with the whole twitch deal, though they might issue him a warning. You are probably right about that. You must not be watching the English stream if you are still assuming that KeSPA is trying to win over foreign fans. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:46 Dodgin wrote: yeah Stephano definitely, I just didn't include him because he hasn't played in PL yet and I wasn't really thinking about eg-tl. only that hero and taeja are easily code s level and I did specify " in proleague " all three of those guys will be able to be judged better after the upcoming up/down matches, they are all in there fighting for code s. bbyong didn't bomb out -_- put stephano in the group bbyong was in and he would lose too. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:43 Zenbrez wrote: Tomorrow morning we'll wake up to an announcement Effort lost his progaming license and got 5 years in jail Hahaha was here thinking about jail too | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:47 Proseat wrote: So I guess herO[join] will win two in a row now. So close, KHAN, so close! herO lost last week, he isn't superman! | ||
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Not this time, no. Kespa used to make those rulings all the time though. It was great. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:46 GTR wrote: There won't be a DQ, just a -1 or warning from the referees. Would they still do the win differential if he did a /dance thing and not the (what seemed like unintentional) :/? | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:49 docvoc wrote: Would they still do the win differential if he did a /dance thing and not the (what seemed like unintentional) :/? They can dance for sure. | ||
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Proseat
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He lost to Stats and Flash. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:48 Caihead wrote: bbyong didn't bomb out -_- put stephano in the group bbyong was in and he would lose too. I didn't say he did ;o he got put in the hardest group and got 4th, not really that surprising. i meant for example if we threw shine or bisu in code s they would obviously bomb out, so they aren't on the list. | ||
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Stats. And Flash. I don't blame the guy. | ||
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On December 30 2012 13:56 IMLyte wrote: JangBi > sKyHigh Stork > Bbyong Kop < Hydra RorO >SonGDuri Shine < EffOrt Reality > herO[jOin] KHAN 4 - 2 CJ Key Match is Reality vs herO if it goes into Ace match CJ wins imo So far my predictions are true. I hope Reality can pull this out for Khan | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:54 IMLyte wrote: So far my predictions are true. I hope Reality can pull this out for Khan holy crap. good calls. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:53 Ryusei-R1 wrote: Stats. And Flash. I don't blame the guy. Poor Stats never gets much hype because he is in the shadow of Flash, but he is good enough to be ace for other teams. | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:48 Fionn wrote: The crowd is actually full. I've noticed this happen... must be time of day... | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:57 Raiquer wrote: Does anyone know what the map intro song name is? The Bloody Beetroots - Rocksteady | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:52 Hier wrote: If Reality loses AGAIN I will just assume he was notified of me trading him off my anti-team and is doing it on purpose. Conspiracy! Where is that conspiracy meme when I need it >.> | ||
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On December 30 2012 16:57 Maghetti wrote: Poor Stats never gets much hype because he is in the shadow of Flash, but he is good enough to be ace for other teams. whelp http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=201245 | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:00 Caihead wrote: whelp http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=201245 Why did you have to bring that up? | ||
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I suck at sc2 is herO all in? does my guy have a chance? | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
the gosu fake... probably Chrono probes and all | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:02 Kergy wrote: please I suck at sc2 is herO all in? does my guy have a chance? reality is ahead, he can hit a good timing attack before storm and probably win. well, too late for pre storm timing but he's way ahead in supply still. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:03 Dodgin wrote: reality is ahead, he can hit a good timing attack before storm and probably win. REALLY?! Is this the real life, is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide.....NO ESCAPE FROM REALITY :O ;D gogogogo | ||
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SO GOOD | ||
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Edit: .gif denied! :o | ||
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Those splits are ridiculous :O he must have prepared pretty well. ...terrible macro lol, did you see his MBS? He had like a dozen units queued up on 2 rax and the other like 6 weren't producing at all :S alright that's more like it...come on man.....you can do it!! | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:04 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: Is it just me or do these protoss builds with no units seem really vulnerable? That's the correct way to play pvt, it's kinda like zerg - probe up and tech, build units if you need to | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:06 TommyP wrote: The more I listen to these casters, the more I like Whiplash. He's not a bad talker, very calm/smooth/not awkward | ||
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Good storm dodges but.... he really didn't need to give away that planetary. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:06 Zenbrez wrote: He's not a bad talker, very calm/smooth/not awkward and decent game knowledge | ||
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HerO and herO need to have a Loser Drops His ID match. Both are too good to have the same name. | ||
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Please....someone pull through in ace. January come up with something please @_@ | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:03 Dodgin wrote: reality is ahead, he can hit a good timing attack before storm and probably win. well, too late for pre storm timing but he's way ahead in supply still. liar ;_; | ||
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Yes we Khan? ;__; I think it's either going to be Roro vs herO or Roro vs Effort >< | ||
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I knew it.. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:10 Emzeeshady wrote: not really... The problem I have with him is that he says a lot of wrong stuff or just points out the obvious. i mean hes not Artosis or apollo, but he still knows what hes talking about for the most part. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:10 Aerisky wrote: Come on .... ace match.... Yes we Khan? ;__; I think it's either going to be Roro vs herO or Roro vs Effort >< Khan has this... no way they lose to Hero[join]... I hope. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:10 Fionn wrote: herO is to Leta as Rain is to Bisu. i just realized herO basically took Leta's role. except in bw herO was a zerg and leta was a terran, not quite the same | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:10 Fionn wrote: herO is to Leta as Rain is to Bisu. i just realized herO basically took Leta's role. leta going to come back and become first sc2 bonjwa now. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:11 docvoc wrote: Khan has this... no way they lose to Hero[join]... I hope. hero is better than anyone on khan. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:09 TommyP wrote: I hate how in the late game Protoss can rarely fight zerg army head up and Terran can rarely fight Protoss army head up. I really dislike that. Remember what happened when a Zerg army couldn't fight a late game Terran army?... | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:10 blade55555 wrote: Eh reality was ahead and I feel could have won the game but was to passive imo. He gave too much credit to hero's smallish army imo. I think someone like Mvp would have pulled his SCVs and gone for the kill once he won that first engagement. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:12 y0su wrote: Remember what happened when a Zerg army couldn't fight a late game Terran army?... when was that? I remember like 5 mvp games where that happened. | ||
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United States4505 Posts
It's official. herO is going to lose to Shine in ace. | ||
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Korea (South)9172 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:12 IshinShishi wrote: what's terran's win rate in proleague so far? pretty solid, flash/taeja/fantasy/baby have all been doing well | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:09 TommyP wrote: I hate how in the late game Protoss can rarely fight zerg army head up and Terran can rarely fight Protoss army head up. I really dislike that. Terran can win, you just have to micro well and have the perfect army composition. Miss some emp's and your opponent gets to land 1-2 storms and a ~30 Supply and/or ~2000 resource advantage becomes meaningless. Reality missed his emps, so despite having an advantage and winning battles pretty decisively earlier he lost the game. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:11 docvoc wrote: Khan has this... no way they lose to Hero[join]... I hope. herO is really fucking good lol. Whup there he goes And for Khan....OH SHIT JANGBI!! PvP THIS SHIT UP! PAEWANG POWAH ~~ >.< | ||
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GL bro, don't break too many hearts | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:13 vthree wrote: I think someone like Mvp would have pulled his SCVs and gone for the kill once he won that first engagement. Mvp knows it's just better to all-in that play for the lategame. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:13 IshinShishi wrote: when was that? I remember like 5 mvp games where that happened. I think he meant prenerf ghost era. | ||
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USE RORO TROLLUARY PLS | ||
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Don't hate Fionn, JangBi can totally do this... I hope | ||
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United States6335 Posts
thanks for the win January!!! <3 | ||
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Japan6156 Posts
there was no prenerf ghost era, there were 5 mvp games. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:15 Dodgin wrote: ITS JANGBI WTF? USE RORO TROLLUARY PLS You just wait!, Jangbi is gonna win this | ||
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Jangbi: "heee let's go" herO: "wait what I didn't expect this at all oh noes whatever shall I do?" I really really hope Jangbi has something awesome up his sleeve :3 | ||
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United States6231 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:15 docvoc wrote: Don't hate Fionn, JangBi can totally do this... I hope oh shiet Fionn said that??!! Damn JangBi is going to win now. | ||
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United States12129 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:16 TommyP wrote: oh shiet Fionn said that??!! Damn JangBi is going to win now. Oh! I just realized!! THANK YOU FIONN! Lend us your voodoo magicks~ !! In our time of | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
Roro is Code S for next season, he didn't even have to play in the up/downs jangbi is code bisu come on .. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:16 TommyP wrote: oh shiet Fionn said that??!! Damn JangBi is going to win now. Nothing stops the Fionn curse. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:16 Aerisky wrote: January: "we're not prepared for this" Jangbi: "wait what I didn't expect this at all oh noes whatever shall I do?" herO: "heee let's go" Fixed. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:15 Dodgin wrote: ITS JANGBI WTF? USE RORO TROLLUARY PLS I... I think she might have just Eenie-Meenie-Minee-Moed that. She just pointed at JangBi and he looked surprised LOL. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:17 Aerisky wrote: Oh! I just realized!! THANK YOU FIONN! Lend us your voodoo magicks~ !! In our time of Nice guy Fionn finally using his curse for good. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:17 Dodgin wrote: I mean Roro is Code S for next season, he didn't even have to play in the up/downs jangbi is code bisu come on .. I lol'd at Code Bisu. But I also felt bad because Bisu. | ||
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khan going 0-42 | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:17 Dodgin wrote: I mean Roro is Code S for next season, he didn't even have to play in the up/downs jangbi is code bisu come on .. Furthermore, RorO is a ZvP beast | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wPh0O.png) He got this. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:19 AlternativeEgo wrote: He got this. badass picture. | ||
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PLEASE WIN | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:17 Dodgin wrote: I mean Roro is Code S for next season, he didn't even have to play in the up/downs jangbi is code bisu come on .. And RorO lost to Bisu Logic states Code Bisu > RorO | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
Fionn curse inc, JangBang win time <3. | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:18 Sadist wrote: anyone else think archons morph too fast? Seems kinda lame you can get 2 storms off (or get emped) and almost instantly morph into an archon to join the battle and rapce face They shortened the time back in 2010 to incentivize using archons a little bit since they were crap and underused then. They since got massive status and a range buff, maybe the merge duration should revert. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote: They shortened the time back in 2010 to incentivize using archons a little bit since they were crap and underused then. They since got massive status and a range buff, maybe the merge duration should revert. I just want ghost stim. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:22 Otolia wrote: Could Samsung Khan have their first win of the season ? We'll just have to believe in the almighty | ||
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Canada39254 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:21 TommyP wrote: Well i guess I can see where january is coming from on this one actually.. RorO has only played one Protoss so far in Proleague... and he lost... against Bisu his zvp record is 68% with 22 games though ;/ | ||
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United States5491 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:21 Dosey wrote: And RorO lost to Bisu Logic states Code Bisu > RorO Code S zerg < Code Bisu = Bisu > Code S? My logic makes as much sense as January's O.o | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
lol no | ||
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United States6231 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:23 Dodgin wrote: his zvp record is 68% with 22 games though ;/ all stats are thrown out the door when you lose to Bisu. | ||
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Canada2308 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:21 TommyP wrote: Well i guess I can see where january is coming from on this one actually.. RorO has only played one Protoss so far in Proleague... and he lost... against Bisu Roro might as well quit the world now D: | ||
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United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:23 docvoc wrote: Code S zerg < Code Bisu = Bisu > Code S? My logic makes as much sense as January's O.o Exactly. | ||
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United States1841 Posts
I agree. No. | ||
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New Zealand9496 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:22 Zenbrez wrote: Just occured to me, when Idra comes and plays (and hopefully wins), he's going to give the most badass interviews haha If they even use him, with Stephano/Rivival coming soon I doubt he will see many games apart from to maybe get some viewers. | ||
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United States7216 Posts
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
lol yeah hybrid league was a Terran-free zone | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:26 Proseat wrote: So will JangBi try to sneak a probe into his opponent's base? No he hides it outside, to show some class | ||
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Sweden98 Posts
On December 30 2012 16:59 Dubzex wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TOhzfndkGs The Bloody Beetroots - Rocksteady No, not that one. I meant the one that is playing when they are showing the maps. | ||
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United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:24 Laryleprakon wrote: If they even use him, with Stephano/Rivival coming soon I doubt he will see many games apart from to maybe get some viewers. Stephano's time will be primarily spent in preparation for GSL matches, so I'd assume they'd use Greg over him. No? | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
But imagine the snipe sound! pewpewpewpewpewpew | ||
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Czech Republic915 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:20 Scarecrow wrote: Looks like that LoS blocker hurt Reality, 6 ghosts wandered through it into the protoss army. Was looking close till then. sKyHigh suicided his ghosts the same way without sight blocker, they require better control. | ||
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Australia2028 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:26 Proseat wrote: So will JangBi try to sneak a probe into his opponent's base? That was Stork that did that today, not Jangbi. | ||
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United States12129 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:26 TommyP wrote: I just realized, not everybody yelling CJ and KHAN FIGHTING!!@!@@ were girls..... Perhaps it's Stork's formidable male fanbase too :D This is nothing new though, I'm pretty sure I've heard a considerable number of male voices in almost every team shout >< | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:27 Dosey wrote: Stephano's time will be primarily spent in preparation for GSL matches, so I'd assume they'd use Greg over him. No? i doubt it. IMO Stephano will lose in the Ro32 so he'll have time on his hands, but should he make a run, he'll still probably play in every match | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:29 Zenbrez wrote: I doubt Jangbi dont | ||
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SIR YES SIR | ||
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You can do it! HOLD! YOU SHALL NOT PASS! | ||
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Force field on the ramp negates everything Jangbi has been working for... | ||
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very nice defensive posturing from jangbi, 2 immortals out now and the forward pylon means he's gonna counter attack! he's not afraid!!!! hero blinks into jangbi's main!!!!!! and he got FF on the ramp! wow thats gg i think... everything is depowered | ||
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COME ON JANGBI !! HANG IN THERE | ||
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Next time, wall in after your blink all-in? | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:35 GTR wrote: how embarrassing for jangbi I don't see how that's embarrassing, there's really no way to prevent that on that map. Unless you mean not going for blink stalkers on CK. | ||
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jangbi still on 1 base? (his natural) but at 10 probes. hero moves some stalkers in WHAT ok now jangbi's going for the basetrade... | ||
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United States12129 Posts
I think Jangbi has the upper hand here. | ||
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hero has 1 pylon... jangbi is building a new base | ||
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I... I think he's got this. | ||
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HE"S GONNA GG | ||
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Why did Hero keep moving the stalkers into his old base when he say Jangbi's forces there? WTF was that? Why three times instead of all at once at least? | ||
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gogo KHAN get that win | ||
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sc2superfan101
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awesome game! | ||
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JANGBI FOR THE ACE WIN!! DAT SMILE!! PAEWANG POWER! Jangbanged!! Whatever you want to call it!! <3 ^__^ so happy | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:39 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: Whaaaaaaaaa?! Why did Hero keep moving the stalkers into his old base when he say Jangbi's forces there? WTF was that? Why three times instead of all at once at least? Jangbi had one probe left. If hero kills the probe, he still has a chance. | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:39 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: Whaaaaaaaaa?! Why did Hero keep moving the stalkers into his old base when he say Jangbi's forces there? WTF was that? Why three times instead of all at once at least? he wants to take chances to snipe the probes and MAYBE force a draw | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
I didn't expect him to come around so fast. That was amazing. | ||
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KHAN IS BACK BABY ROUND 2 | ||
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nextstep
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Immaterial
Canada510 Posts
First time this season I've been glad to have Jangi on my fantasy team lol. | ||
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United States1326 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:39 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: His only hope was to snipe the probe and hope that Jangbi had less than 50 minerals, even though he had more.Whaaaaaaaaa?! Why did Hero keep moving the stalkers into his old base when he say Jangbi's forces there? WTF was that? Why three times instead of all at once at least? | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
ZerO and BaBy lose and JangBi wins both regular set AND ace? I blame Fionn. | ||
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Atleast i have Jangbi! | ||
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On December 30 2012 17:39 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: Whaaaaaaaaa?! Why did Hero keep moving the stalkers into his old base when he say Jangbi's forces there? WTF was that? Why three times instead of all at once at least? I think he was just trying to snipe the one probe to force a stalemate. edit: He wanted to have enough stalkers left over to win a base trade if JangBi moved out to kill his last building(s). | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Wasn't an easy task at all. Sooo happy for Samsung Khan :3 | ||
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United States6231 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:40 CursOr wrote: yes x10000 | ||
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Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
YEAH JANGBI, MY CAPTAIN, YOU HAVE PULLED THROUGH the dragons + Roro FUCK YEAH | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + but CJ lost thou | ||
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Canada2479 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:40 bduddy wrote: His only hope was to snipe the probe and hope that Jangbi had less than 50 minerals, even though he had more. Well, even though he had mineral he was supply blocked so he can't actually -build- anything unless he loses his units. | ||
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United States1067 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:39 Fragile51 wrote: Jangbi had one probe left. If hero kills the probe, he still has a chance. He thinks that, but Jangbi also has enough minerals to make one more probe if his supply allows it. | ||
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United States1050 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:40 Dosey wrote: wtf is this twilight zone bull shit? ZerO and BaBy lose and JangBi wins both regular set AND ace? I blame Fionn. fionn has no power here, this is proleague. | ||
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Tipany
United States368 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:40 Pursuit_ wrote: I think he was just trying to snipe the one probe to force a stalemate. edit: He wanted to have enough stalkers left over to win a base trade if JangBi moved out to kill his last building(s). Yeah, Jangbi would have had to kill his own units in order to get out of the red if he had lost his only probe | ||
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United States1330 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:41 phyren wrote: He thinks that, but Jangbi also has enough minerals to make one more probe if his supply allows it. His supply didn't allow it. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
 What a bro. What a bro. Hell yeah Khan  | ||
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Thinasy
2856 Posts
Fistbump bro! | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
On December 29 2012 12:24 Dubzex wrote: I think this will be Khan's first win of the season. Awwww yeah, Khan getting their first win and helping EG-TL in the process. | ||
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Prince_Stranger
Kazakhstan762 Posts
Amazing game! | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:42 xmungam wrote: fionn has no power here, this is proleague. I dunno, he picked KT for 7th before week 1 and now they are 1st. | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
I'm +23/-0 this weekend, it's a pity my team was already wrecked after the first two weeks. | ||
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mrbamboo
United States415 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:43 Dodgin wrote: I dunno, he picked KT for 7th before week 1 and now they are 1st. He also picked Woongjin for week 1 and called Turn to be breakout player this season. Poor Turn. | ||
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Daogin
Canada2308 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:43 FuRong wrote: Good to see Khan finally pull out a win. I'm +23/-0 this weekend, it's a pity my team was already wrecked after the first two weeks. Im still kicking in top 300 if that means anything | ||
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1948 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:41 Ryusei-R1 wrote: WOOOO YEAH JANGBI, MY CAPTAIN, YOU HAVE PULLED THROUGH the dragons + Roro FUCK YEAH LOL. Same, Jangbi is my captain. Favourite player since BW. Also have Effort on my team and Reality | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:44 S_SienZ wrote: He also picked Woongjin for week 1 and called Turn to be breakout player this season. Poor Turn. He never knew what hit him. | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
I died a little... | ||
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klops
United States674 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + You still suck though. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:45 Monsen wrote: "revenge of the fall" - I died a little... >_> At least he tried. | ||
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-Strider-
Mexico1605 Posts
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cravin74
Malaysia1088 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
using your powers for Khan, much appreciated <3Reminds me of the guy who repeatedly said Federer didn't have an ice cube's chance in hell against Murray, and Roger ended up winning Wimbledon 2012. Voodoo magic OP! | ||
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mrbamboo
United States415 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:46 Arceus wrote: apparently round 2 starts next weekend with EGTL vs KT and SKT vs STX sounds about right! | ||
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Raiquer
Sweden98 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:48 mrbamboo wrote: herO should have warped units to handle the zealots back at home. He didn't need more units in Jangbi's base because Jangbi's army was stuck in the natural anyway, and he was going to blink out when the ff ran out and be up 30 probes to 10. he dumped a cycle into the prism at jangbi's base i think | ||
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Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:47 cravin74 wrote: I've Jangbi in my FPL team since week 1. Good to see it pay dividend at the end of this round. Now I need to get rid of Roro from my anti. whoa whoa whoa what the first rule of FPL: NEVER put Roro on your anti-team. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
I look through the recommended maps each day here to watch VODs and usually there is only one good game (typically a TvT or an Arkanoid game), maybe 2 if there is an ace. | ||
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phyren
United States1067 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:44 coasts wrote: LOL. Same, Jangbi is my captain. Favourite player since BW. Also have Effort on my team and Reality Khan fan all the way, but in the interests of my fpl hopes I only allowed myself to pick stork; awesome as it was it would have been infinitely better if he had pulled through in the ace match. | ||
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BrassMonkey27
Canada616 Posts
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
hero[j] waiiiii :/ | ||
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mrbamboo
United States415 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:49 Caihead wrote: he dumped a cycle into the prism at jangbi's base i think That's exactly what I was saying. Jangbi had zealots in his base long before that, because he already warped 2 rounds of zealots at home to defend at that point. He should've kept warping at base instead of a round of stalkers on the warp prism. Think the attack went really well and herO got overeager and tried to end the game. Should've warped stalkers at home, micro them against zealots. And have his main army blink out of Jangbi's base and head home too, which he ends up doing anyway but a bit too late. He was up 30 probes to 10 at that point and could've easily won from there. | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2141 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:49 Caihead wrote: he dumped a cycle into the prism at jangbi's base i think which was a bad decision - hero should have anticipated the likelihood of a baserace and warped those units at home to defend (especially sentries for ff), instead of in jangbi's base where the only purpose they served was adding an insignificant amount of dps vs buildings. in other news, KHAN STORK JANGBI AWWWWW YEAH | ||
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metzninja
New Zealand626 Posts
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cravin74
Malaysia1088 Posts
On December 30 2012 17:49 Ryusei-R1 wrote: whoa whoa whoa what the first rule of FPL: NEVER put Roro on your anti-team. HAHA... I know but I got him to replace Baby in week 2 but it looks like this acquisition has run its course. | ||
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Mistletoes
50 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
R.I.P. my FPL team! | ||
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structuralinertia
Australia1426 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
ok. lol me | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
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warmus
United Kingdom196 Posts
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Odoakar
Croatia1835 Posts
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FeltFace
Australia577 Posts
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18382 Posts
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supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On December 30 2012 19:49 supernovamaniac wrote: JANGBANG'D :D Though put on some thick skin when you read/think about some of the posts in this thread because they didn't hold back from a jangbanging themselves when it came to casting criticism. >< | ||
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JSy
149 Posts
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3470 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51478 Posts
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
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bubl100500
Ukraine538 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
 Its a pleasure to see Twin Cannons do the work again. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On December 30 2012 12:38 The_Templar wrote: Head: JangBi > sKyHigh Stork > Bbyong Kop < Hydra RorO > SonGDuri Shine < EffOrt Reality < herO[jOin] RorO > herO[jOin] KHAN 4-3. So freaking close... | ||
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Farmer Poopy
258 Posts
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illidanx
United States973 Posts
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structuralinertia
Australia1426 Posts
Impressively close, I applaud your faith in Khan | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6644 Posts
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Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
No problem, i can say now: Jangbiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Btw, what a nice games last night. Congrats PL | ||
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UglyBattle
United States5 Posts
Finally, Samsung won a game, glad for Stork and Jangbi. Edit: just watched, man oh man, I was in tears near the end for Jangbi and Khan. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
jangbi nice! | ||
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
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unit
United States2621 Posts
sick skill in predictions hell i would have predicted RorO for the ACE over JangBi but it is Nice to see everyone get jangbanged | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
I look like a genius right now :D!! | ||
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UglyBattle
United States5 Posts
On December 31 2012 02:01 LighT. wrote: Swapped Crazy-Hydra for Jangbi in my FPL I look like a genius right now :D!! Light is Always a Genius. | ||
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BretZ
United States1510 Posts
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Devise
Canada1131 Posts
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
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Kyyuna
United States1222 Posts
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
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dubRa
2165 Posts
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crashonly
Finland418 Posts
Really nice to see the looks in Khan player's faces as they finally got a win. Jangbi's grin is especially awesome | ||
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DragonflySC2
United States146 Posts
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GWdeathscythe
Brazil1091 Posts
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On December 31 2012 13:01 GWdeathscythe wrote: is there anyplace we can watch the vods? i really want to see jangbi and stork sets. Free Korean VODs: http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos?view=0 | ||
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GWdeathscythe
Brazil1091 Posts
On December 31 2012 13:04 juicyjames wrote: Free Korean VODs: http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos?view=0 Thanks a lot!! (= | ||
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samuraibael
Australia294 Posts
thats it im changing to khan | ||
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