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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 22 2012 06:24 tomatriedes wrote: So hydralisks in ZvT were actually viable all this time? Who woulda thunk it. as a StarTale fan I figured you would know this thanks to Life D: Although I guess he was on ZeNEX at the time | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On December 22 2012 06:23 Bagration wrote: It was the queen patch. It changed the metagame, and MMA was never able to get back into the groove. Fuck. So disappointing Coach Ryu Won! It's all about Coach Ryu Won. Edit: Damn it, Fionn. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On December 22 2012 06:23 Prog455 wrote: But if you consider their reputation as being arguably the best foreign team, they are actually doing pretty poorly. Team Acer - Nerchio won HSC 5 and Dreamhack Open: Bucharest - Scarlett won WCS North America Team Liquid - Taeja won MLG Summer Arena, ASUS ROG 2012, Dreamhack Valencia and finished 2nd in Dreamhack Winter 2012. He also All-killed Prime and IM in IPTL - Hero won Dreamhack Winter 2012 and NASL Season 4 No doubt EG has some great players, but they are more known for their community participation (InControL and IdrA) and their history as a great E-sport team, than for their actual accomplishments. When you try to justify which is the best foreign team, isn't it cheating to list the accomplishment of the team's Koreans? | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On December 22 2012 06:23 Prog455 wrote: But if you consider their reputation as being arguably the best foreign team, they are actually doing pretty poorly. Team Acer - Nerchio won HSC 5 and Dreamhack Open: Bucharest - Scarlett won WCS North America Team Liquid - Taeja won MLG Summer Arena, ASUS ROG 2012, Dreamhack Valencia and finished 2nd in Dreamhack Winter 2012. He also All-killed Prime and IM in IPTL - Hero won Dreamhack Winter 2012 and NASL Season 4 No doubt EG has some great players, but they are more known for their community participation (InControL and IdrA) and their history as a great E-sport team, than for their actual accomplishments. .... no one mentioned any of that in the conversation. The guy asked a question and I answered it. Easy on the EG haterade, man. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
I was hoping a 4 Korean Semi-final. | ||
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
Admin for Kas vs TLO is called Patchzerg | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On December 22 2012 06:24 Hypemeup wrote: That is what the queenpatch did apparently. Perfect analogy! TvZ had a couple ugly patches before but now it's just full retard.... | ||
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MangoMountain
Norway2044 Posts
That's a good description of mma's meteoric fall from grace in tvz | ||
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
On December 22 2012 06:22 Demonidze wrote: EGStephano @EGStephanoRC Don't be mad at XlorD I was the one accepting him to take the win ! EGStephano @EGStephanoRC What a waste of time ! Going to play MMA now. I'm sure I can beat him, this match will be very interesting. Aaaaaand Stephano beats MMA 2-0. what a man!!! respect Yeah I already made a remark about his good sportsmanship and I am glad that he came through the group  More people should comment on this to show that this behaviour is appreciated.Of course people won't see this, they rather like the possibility of creating drama out of thin air... | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 22 2012 06:20 Dotq wrote: rofl, EG CEO said no more eg players for next homestory cup unless they get more professional. Do you want 3 pro zerg players give their input or 3 bronze admins ? Talk about going full retard mode over a small issue. They shouldn't have aired it on the stream. In that sense he's right. In the other sense, he's overreacting and these decisions have to be made. If he decides not to send players that's entirely up to him. Player's are replaceable. I don't care what he thinks about his brand because other players can step in and fill the void. Like I said, everyone is replaceable. If there's another tournament or you want your player in PL instead by all means go for it. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On December 22 2012 06:24 Fionn wrote: I like to think that Ryu Won was the real genius and MMA was more of his android that he programed to be amazing at SC2. You wonder why there's no woongjin terran that hasn't ended up like that, you'd think light would go full beast mode with ryu won. | ||
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ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
Crazy, just Crazy. The spread, the roach push into roach/hydra into ling/hydra/infester into ultra/hydra/infestor , this could be the future of ZvT. But lets be honest, ZvT is already soooo good for Zerg, i would be even happier about a new option for Terran to play the MU | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
On December 22 2012 06:24 Fionn wrote: I like to think that Ryu Won was the real genius and MMA was more of his android that he programed to be amazing at SC2. Yeah you've brought this up before and I completely agree, kinda sad though  | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On December 22 2012 06:20 Dotq wrote: rofl, EG CEO said no more eg players for next homestory cup unless they get more professional. Do you want 3 pro zerg players give their input or 3 bronze admins ? Talk about going full retard mode over a small issue. It may be an overreaction but it was not handled correctly. 1) Such a discussion cannot be had publicly. 2) Rules for what can be done (such as extending to bo5) must be written down prior. 3) No input from xlord or stephano should be taken. 4) No player still in the tournament of affiliated with the teams of xlord or stephano should be asked (obvious conflict of interest). The right way is obviously to have qualified admins make the decision behind the scenes according to predefined rules. | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
I'm far, far more disappointed from Stephano though he threw a game that was not 100% over. Consider his position, he had 2/2, was on his side of his map for defender's, had a superior concave, against Xlord's clumped army with few infestors and less energy on them then the previous engagement. Xlord had a bank, but frankly it wasn't that big, and he also didn't have many larva left. Yes Stephano was behind, his infestor tech was super late, and his 4th was about to be sniped, the only thing we can conclude from that is Xlord had an advantage, but I don't agree that the advantage was so insurmountable that he could get a clear win. If, say Xlord loses his entire army to a poor engagement in the choke and loses his Infestors, suddenly Stephano has a chance to get his 4th, infestors and stabilize. If say, Xlord retreats and regroups, waits for Infestors and energy etc, he is still ahead, but Stephano has time to also regroup, set up defenses etc. Conclusion, Xlord was ahead, but he hadn't killed the army of Stephano and, he hadn't entered the production line of Stephano. The magnitude of the advantage Xlord had wasn't big enough to justify a win for Xlord. And because of this Stephano's decision is ridiculously stupid, he wasn't even going to fight for his own right to play. If a regame was settled in PartinG vs MKP, Stephano had every right to call for a regame, but he didn't. I never really liked him as a person, but I could respect him as a player, now I actively dislike him. And I can't believe how many people are actually arguing this was a good decision, and not even bringing out solid facts to back up their opinions. This was, in my opinion the worst decision that could have occurred ever since the GSTL incident. | ||
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