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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 21 2012 03:55 GMT
#141
On December 21 2012 12:16 JJH777 wrote:
You guys really overrate how dominant zerg is right now. Protoss still wins plenty of tournaments and has a 50-50 winrate in PvZ. It's just Terran that has been doing absolutely terribly.


Overall, simply looking at win-rates alone, Protoss is doing slightly worse than Terran, and is only winning games vs zerg by hitting pre-Broodlord/Infestor timings. At the top level, Protoss seems to be doing better than Terran (eventhough this might just be the PartinG effect), and Zerg is still dominating at all levels since the end of august.

For detailed information on win-rates see http://aligulac.com/periods/.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 04:04:49
December 21 2012 04:02 GMT
#142
On December 21 2012 12:36 opterown wrote:
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On December 21 2012 12:30 TommyP wrote:
Yes 4Minute and then DRG v. BaBy OMG i cant freaking wait. Im 99% sure that whoever wins between DRG and BaBy will go onto crush NesTea though.

bisu will crank out the sentry-immortal all-in level 3 though. the difference between his build and parting's is that bisu doesn't get any immortals.

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On December 21 2012 12:36 stuchiu wrote:
If Life wins, he's player of the year and breakout player of the year. If he doesn't win, he's still breakout player of the year, but it will be a mad free for all between 4-5 different players.

i consider parting a bit more breakout than life was this year tbh. or maybe scarlett even.



Now that I think about it, I just realized Parting made his first big Code S this year. Changed the meta game for PvT nearly by himself and played some crazy series against MKP early on this year. I just completely forgot since it feels like it happened last year. Also, Parting is the epitome of the PvZ immortal/sentry.

Excluding all-kills here as both players were clutch for their teams in just about every team league.

Parting won WCG, and WCS Globabl. But in WCS, his path was made up of players you would rank below Parting (excluding Creator) And he should of won WCG with Yonghwa losing in the groups and MKP losing to Lowely. (Though I feel an argument has to be made that he got 3rd in WCS Korea and 2nd in WCS Asia).

Compare that to Life: He got back-to-back Majors in GSL and MLG. GSL ro8 he beat MKP, then Taeja and finally MVP. In MLG he beat Violet, Taeja, Flash and Leenock. Parting notably beat Creator, Hero, Curious, Roro and a few others. I'd argue that the competition that Life had to beat was harder as his list includes 2 players in the running for best of the year (MVP, Leenock (twice)), best in a season (Taeja), one of the best in Kespa (Flash), and Violet (top 5 zerg)

The path that Life had to take was harder than Parting's. But I don't think its completely definitive that Life should get breakout player of the year.

As for Scarlett, I won't rate her in the same category. There are too many extenuating circumstances when rating foreign players against Korean players in terms of time and opportunity to make a scale that would be able to measure everything fairly. And it's an entirely different discussion when talking about breakout foreign player of the year as there have been a surprising amount of foreign zergs that popped up this year (and Lucifron/EU Protoss).
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 21 2012 04:05 GMT
#143
On December 21 2012 12:42 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 12:36 opterown wrote:
On December 21 2012 12:30 TommyP wrote:
Yes 4Minute and then DRG v. BaBy OMG i cant freaking wait. Im 99% sure that whoever wins between DRG and BaBy will go onto crush NesTea though.

bisu will crank out the sentry-immortal all-in level 3 though. the difference between his build and parting's is that bisu doesn't get any immortals.

On December 21 2012 12:36 stuchiu wrote:
If Life wins, he's player of the year and breakout player of the year. If he doesn't win, he's still breakout player of the year, but it will be a mad free for all between 4-5 different players.

i consider parting a bit more breakout than life was this year tbh. or maybe scarlett even.


Scarlett, seriously? I like Scarlett, but she won North American WCS events. It's not a worthy comparison. Life is a good breakout player, he had earned $0 on sc2earnings before 2012.

well, scarlett imo is more famous than life for the average sc2 viewer; she's a foreigner hope haha. not often you can see foreigners break out like that :o life was a fairly consistent midtier zerg last year for the ESV weeklies, etc
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 04:18:41
December 21 2012 04:11 GMT
#144
Parting is way more of a breakout player than Life, imo. Life has consistently done well in the Weekly before entering the scene when he was still part of ZeNEX. Parting was pretty much a complete unknown up until the moment he knocked TOP out of the GSL in November 2011 and stomped his way to Code S. Since his debut in Code S in January, he has had an immense impact on both the PvT and PvZ metagame, with many decent runs, despite not really grabbing any major wins until the end of the year, and is now one of the most feared Protoss players on the planet. This is a guy who had little to no exposure before his appearance in Code A. I don't know anyone else who is more of a breakout player than this guy. Even Life and Sniper were hyped before their times.

I of course can't say whether or not Parting was well-known in the Korean communities before his big breakout, but I did follow the Weekly pretty religiously in the past, and before he was in the GSL, I had never seen hide nor tail of Parting, which can't be said of other "breakout" players like Life, Taeja, Jjakji, Squirtle, Curious, etc. Parting seemingly materialized out of nowhere and just started wrecking plenty of face.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
December 21 2012 04:13 GMT
#145
On December 21 2012 12:11 Zealously wrote:
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On December 21 2012 12:08 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
can someone explain to me what wonwonwon is? i'm guessing sentry immortal all-in?
thx in adv


A wonwonwon is Parting's own "Soulful immortal+sentry all-in". The name showed up some time after Parting made his comments that he won games with his all-in because he put his soul into it. It's a play on words; 1 won for the Won in his name, 1 for "won" as in the past tense of "to win" and 1 for "won", the Korean currency.


Bahah, that's actually awesome. It also ties in neatly with the dreaded Terran 1/1/1.
Khaldor
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany861 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 04:27:07
December 21 2012 04:22 GMT
#146
Gonna be a sick final! Really excited to see if Life has an answer to Partings Immortal-Push
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 05:27:05
December 21 2012 04:58 GMT
#147
On December 21 2012 13:31 Hall0wed wrote:
So the group performing at the GSL Finals ended up being 4 Minute

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http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=228605&cid=0&kind=8

4Minute is the KPOP group

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Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
December 21 2012 05:04 GMT
#148
I didnt plan on watching

but since 4minute is gonna be there, I will be tuning in
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
December 21 2012 06:01 GMT
#149
wow 4 minute!
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1718 Posts
December 21 2012 06:22 GMT
#150
I thought HOTS was Bisu vs Nestea and baby vs DRG, not ZvZ
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 21 2012 06:26 GMT
#151
On December 21 2012 15:22 ShowTheLights wrote:
I thought HOTS was Bisu vs Nestea and baby vs DRG, not ZvZ

we didn't know what it was going to be when the OP was posted, but i'm sure zealousy will update OP as required~
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BPLOL
Profile Joined February 2012
United States55 Posts
December 21 2012 06:57 GMT
#152
Isn't the HOTS thing supposed to have started? sorry if I'm missing something!
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 21 2012 06:59 GMT
#153
On December 21 2012 15:57 BPLOL wrote:
Isn't the HOTS thing supposed to have started? sorry if I'm missing something!

it's tomorrow not today :p
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BPLOL
Profile Joined February 2012
United States55 Posts
December 21 2012 07:00 GMT
#154
On December 21 2012 15:59 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 15:57 BPLOL wrote:
Isn't the HOTS thing supposed to have started? sorry if I'm missing something!

it's tomorrow not today :p


omg lol I'm an idiot
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Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
December 21 2012 07:07 GMT
#155
Once again StarTale will come in second :-P
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 21 2012 07:10 GMT
#156
On December 21 2012 16:00 BPLOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 15:59 opterown wrote:
On December 21 2012 15:57 BPLOL wrote:
Isn't the HOTS thing supposed to have started? sorry if I'm missing something!

it's tomorrow not today :p


omg lol I'm an idiot


Yeah I made the mistake of thinking it was in 4 mins not too long ago....only to see 4min is the K-pop group -_-;;
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Farone
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
December 21 2012 07:12 GMT
#157
and again Startale gets 2nd
MC, Stephano, Ret, Jjakji, Grubby, Life, HerO, Scarlett, TaeJa
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
December 21 2012 07:27 GMT
#158
poor bisu
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
December 21 2012 07:27 GMT
#159
On December 21 2012 16:12 Farone wrote:
and again Startale gets 2nd

LOLOLOLOL SO TRUE!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
December 21 2012 08:15 GMT
#160
1st and 2nd place = ST_KingKong
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
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