• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:33
CEST 10:33
KST 17:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 227ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch Data needed
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7719 users

[GSL] Blizzard Cup Grand Finals - Page 8

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 191 Next
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 21 2012 03:55 GMT
#141
On December 21 2012 12:16 JJH777 wrote:
You guys really overrate how dominant zerg is right now. Protoss still wins plenty of tournaments and has a 50-50 winrate in PvZ. It's just Terran that has been doing absolutely terribly.


Overall, simply looking at win-rates alone, Protoss is doing slightly worse than Terran, and is only winning games vs zerg by hitting pre-Broodlord/Infestor timings. At the top level, Protoss seems to be doing better than Terran (eventhough this might just be the PartinG effect), and Zerg is still dominating at all levels since the end of august.

For detailed information on win-rates see http://aligulac.com/periods/.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 04:04:49
December 21 2012 04:02 GMT
#142
On December 21 2012 12:36 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 12:30 TommyP wrote:
Yes 4Minute and then DRG v. BaBy OMG i cant freaking wait. Im 99% sure that whoever wins between DRG and BaBy will go onto crush NesTea though.

bisu will crank out the sentry-immortal all-in level 3 though. the difference between his build and parting's is that bisu doesn't get any immortals.

Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 12:36 stuchiu wrote:
If Life wins, he's player of the year and breakout player of the year. If he doesn't win, he's still breakout player of the year, but it will be a mad free for all between 4-5 different players.

i consider parting a bit more breakout than life was this year tbh. or maybe scarlett even.



Now that I think about it, I just realized Parting made his first big Code S this year. Changed the meta game for PvT nearly by himself and played some crazy series against MKP early on this year. I just completely forgot since it feels like it happened last year. Also, Parting is the epitome of the PvZ immortal/sentry.

Excluding all-kills here as both players were clutch for their teams in just about every team league.

Parting won WCG, and WCS Globabl. But in WCS, his path was made up of players you would rank below Parting (excluding Creator) And he should of won WCG with Yonghwa losing in the groups and MKP losing to Lowely. (Though I feel an argument has to be made that he got 3rd in WCS Korea and 2nd in WCS Asia).

Compare that to Life: He got back-to-back Majors in GSL and MLG. GSL ro8 he beat MKP, then Taeja and finally MVP. In MLG he beat Violet, Taeja, Flash and Leenock. Parting notably beat Creator, Hero, Curious, Roro and a few others. I'd argue that the competition that Life had to beat was harder as his list includes 2 players in the running for best of the year (MVP, Leenock (twice)), best in a season (Taeja), one of the best in Kespa (Flash), and Violet (top 5 zerg)

The path that Life had to take was harder than Parting's. But I don't think its completely definitive that Life should get breakout player of the year.

As for Scarlett, I won't rate her in the same category. There are too many extenuating circumstances when rating foreign players against Korean players in terms of time and opportunity to make a scale that would be able to measure everything fairly. And it's an entirely different discussion when talking about breakout foreign player of the year as there have been a surprising amount of foreign zergs that popped up this year (and Lucifron/EU Protoss).
Moderator
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 21 2012 04:05 GMT
#143
On December 21 2012 12:42 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 12:36 opterown wrote:
On December 21 2012 12:30 TommyP wrote:
Yes 4Minute and then DRG v. BaBy OMG i cant freaking wait. Im 99% sure that whoever wins between DRG and BaBy will go onto crush NesTea though.

bisu will crank out the sentry-immortal all-in level 3 though. the difference between his build and parting's is that bisu doesn't get any immortals.

On December 21 2012 12:36 stuchiu wrote:
If Life wins, he's player of the year and breakout player of the year. If he doesn't win, he's still breakout player of the year, but it will be a mad free for all between 4-5 different players.

i consider parting a bit more breakout than life was this year tbh. or maybe scarlett even.


Scarlett, seriously? I like Scarlett, but she won North American WCS events. It's not a worthy comparison. Life is a good breakout player, he had earned $0 on sc2earnings before 2012.

well, scarlett imo is more famous than life for the average sc2 viewer; she's a foreigner hope haha. not often you can see foreigners break out like that :o life was a fairly consistent midtier zerg last year for the ESV weeklies, etc
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 04:18:41
December 21 2012 04:11 GMT
#144
Parting is way more of a breakout player than Life, imo. Life has consistently done well in the Weekly before entering the scene when he was still part of ZeNEX. Parting was pretty much a complete unknown up until the moment he knocked TOP out of the GSL in November 2011 and stomped his way to Code S. Since his debut in Code S in January, he has had an immense impact on both the PvT and PvZ metagame, with many decent runs, despite not really grabbing any major wins until the end of the year, and is now one of the most feared Protoss players on the planet. This is a guy who had little to no exposure before his appearance in Code A. I don't know anyone else who is more of a breakout player than this guy. Even Life and Sniper were hyped before their times.

I of course can't say whether or not Parting was well-known in the Korean communities before his big breakout, but I did follow the Weekly pretty religiously in the past, and before he was in the GSL, I had never seen hide nor tail of Parting, which can't be said of other "breakout" players like Life, Taeja, Jjakji, Squirtle, Curious, etc. Parting seemingly materialized out of nowhere and just started wrecking plenty of face.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
December 21 2012 04:13 GMT
#145
On December 21 2012 12:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 12:08 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
can someone explain to me what wonwonwon is? i'm guessing sentry immortal all-in?
thx in adv


A wonwonwon is Parting's own "Soulful immortal+sentry all-in". The name showed up some time after Parting made his comments that he won games with his all-in because he put his soul into it. It's a play on words; 1 won for the Won in his name, 1 for "won" as in the past tense of "to win" and 1 for "won", the Korean currency.


Bahah, that's actually awesome. It also ties in neatly with the dreaded Terran 1/1/1.
Khaldor
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany861 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 04:27:07
December 21 2012 04:22 GMT
#146
Gonna be a sick final! Really excited to see if Life has an answer to Partings Immortal-Push
Tutorials, Quick Tips and Guides: www.YouTube.com/KhaldorTV
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 05:27:05
December 21 2012 04:58 GMT
#147
On December 21 2012 13:31 Hall0wed wrote:
So the group performing at the GSL Finals ended up being 4 Minute

[image loading]

http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=228605&cid=0&kind=8

4Minute is the KPOP group

Images from This Is Game:

[image loading]
[image loading]
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
December 21 2012 05:04 GMT
#148
I didnt plan on watching

but since 4minute is gonna be there, I will be tuning in
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
December 21 2012 06:01 GMT
#149
wow 4 minute!
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1715 Posts
December 21 2012 06:22 GMT
#150
I thought HOTS was Bisu vs Nestea and baby vs DRG, not ZvZ
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 21 2012 06:26 GMT
#151
On December 21 2012 15:22 ShowTheLights wrote:
I thought HOTS was Bisu vs Nestea and baby vs DRG, not ZvZ

we didn't know what it was going to be when the OP was posted, but i'm sure zealousy will update OP as required~
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
BPLOL
Profile Joined February 2012
United States55 Posts
December 21 2012 06:57 GMT
#152
Isn't the HOTS thing supposed to have started? sorry if I'm missing something!
★JD★MKP★DRG★BP★FIGHTING★
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 21 2012 06:59 GMT
#153
On December 21 2012 15:57 BPLOL wrote:
Isn't the HOTS thing supposed to have started? sorry if I'm missing something!

it's tomorrow not today :p
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
BPLOL
Profile Joined February 2012
United States55 Posts
December 21 2012 07:00 GMT
#154
On December 21 2012 15:59 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 15:57 BPLOL wrote:
Isn't the HOTS thing supposed to have started? sorry if I'm missing something!

it's tomorrow not today :p


omg lol I'm an idiot
★JD★MKP★DRG★BP★FIGHTING★
Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
December 21 2012 07:07 GMT
#155
Once again StarTale will come in second :-P
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 21 2012 07:10 GMT
#156
On December 21 2012 16:00 BPLOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 15:59 opterown wrote:
On December 21 2012 15:57 BPLOL wrote:
Isn't the HOTS thing supposed to have started? sorry if I'm missing something!

it's tomorrow not today :p


omg lol I'm an idiot


Yeah I made the mistake of thinking it was in 4 mins not too long ago....only to see 4min is the K-pop group -_-;;
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Farone
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
December 21 2012 07:12 GMT
#157
and again Startale gets 2nd
MC, Stephano, Ret, Jjakji, Grubby, Life, HerO, Scarlett, TaeJa
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
December 21 2012 07:27 GMT
#158
poor bisu
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
December 21 2012 07:27 GMT
#159
On December 21 2012 16:12 Farone wrote:
and again Startale gets 2nd

LOLOLOLOL SO TRUE!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
December 21 2012 08:15 GMT
#160
1st and 2nd place = ST_KingKong
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 191 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 27m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 184
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 41251
Sea 1252
Shuttle 985
Mong 425
Leta 412
actioN 257
ggaemo 84
Soma 73
Dewaltoss 73
Larva 70
[ Show more ]
Hm[arnc] 68
sorry 52
ZergMaN 43
Aegong 43
yabsab 27
Bale 21
GoRush 18
Sharp 9
League of Legends
JimRising 602
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv576
olofmeister572
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King100
Other Games
Happy305
Sick229
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick23709
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 63
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2130
League of Legends
• Jankos2054
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
27m
CrankTV Team League
2h 27m
OSC
8h 27m
Cure vs SKillous
Lambo vs goblin
Cham vs YoungYakov
ArT vs Harstem
Krystianer vs Iba
Replay Cast
15h 27m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
CrankTV Team League
1d 2h
OSC
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
3 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Heroes Pulsing #3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.