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Kiro21
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada19 Posts
December 21 2012 08:29 GMT
#161
Another ZvP? Well, at least I like Life. GOGOGO! I hope he wins ahaha, he's Living the Life while his opponent is simply Parting ways...
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 21 2012 08:32 GMT
#162
I predict 4 immortal all ins, an immortal build time nerf and a 20% winrate for protoss before BL/infestor gets nerfed.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
December 21 2012 08:35 GMT
#163
On December 21 2012 17:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I predict 4 immortal all ins, an immortal build time nerf and a 20% winrate for protoss before BL/infestor gets nerfed.


you protoss whiners are annoying the crap out of me, protoss isnt doing ANY bad against zerg or in general, if anything terrans struggle at the moment
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 08:44:07
December 21 2012 08:39 GMT
#164
On December 21 2012 17:35 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 17:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I predict 4 immortal all ins, an immortal build time nerf and a 20% winrate for protoss before BL/infestor gets nerfed.


you protoss whiners are annoying the crap out of me, protoss isnt doing ANY bad against zerg or in general, if anything terrans struggle at the moment


Wow you really that one serious. But well if you wanna go there tell me one protoss who wins lategame vs zerg.
I'm not saying that terran has it any easier. Protoss just has a number of viable all ins, hence the immensely reduced winrate if those are nerfed. There's no macro PvZ strategy.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Apus
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand74 Posts
December 21 2012 08:59 GMT
#165
Clearly Bisu has been practicing his HotS for this moment and that's why his WoL results have been poor. *cough*

Hope he does well though, and carries it through to SPL.

Parting vs Life though...that's hard. I'll go with Parting because he just seems to be a master at PvZ right now. He's leagues ahead of anyone else, probably partially due to his training with Life, so we should get some interesting games at least.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
December 21 2012 09:01 GMT
#166
On December 21 2012 17:35 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 17:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I predict 4 immortal all ins, an immortal build time nerf and a 20% winrate for protoss before BL/infestor gets nerfed.


you protoss whiners are annoying the crap out of me, protoss isnt doing ANY bad against zerg or in general, if anything terrans struggle at the moment


What reality are you living in?
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
thesums
Profile Joined December 2010
Taiwan257 Posts
December 21 2012 09:27 GMT
#167
Well there is so much money on the line so if PartinG does not do his immortal all-in like in the semi-finals he will regret it. In the Ro6 he had a hard time because he never did his all-in and opted to do weird builds like mother-ship rush. But in all honesty Zergs should not complain because if you look at the gomtv.net win ratios top 4 are Zergs and PartinG is only 5th because of yesterday's matches.

1. Life 76%
2. DRG 67.6%
3. Sniper 67.6
4. Leenock 64.9
5. PartinG 64.9 (looks to be same with 4, but probably they calculate it to the 2nd decimal?)

FYI
Win Ratio for team league is (of course this is not as accurate)
1. Sniper 82.4
2. Yong Hwa 81.3
3. Symbol 78.9
4. Leenock 73.7
5. JYP 71.4

(So as you see, Sniper and Leenock are in both lists and both are zergs)

And the conclusion is that Zergs are the best race overall throughout the seasons percentage-wise and considering how there was a lot of terran domination during the start, it can only emphasize how dominant zergs are right now. And Terrans are a sad race despite MVP being the most successful in terms of prize money LOL
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
December 21 2012 10:08 GMT
#168
Balance whine is supposed to happening during the LR, not before it. Save your energies!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 21 2012 10:17 GMT
#169
On December 21 2012 15:22 ShowTheLights wrote:
I thought HOTS was Bisu vs Nestea and baby vs DRG, not ZvZ


There was no official announcement about it when I made the thread and I was asleep when they announced the match-ups; I've fixed it. DRG/BaBy and Nestea/Bisu should be much better match-ups, I think.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 21 2012 10:21 GMT
#170
PartinG take care of business!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 21 2012 10:22 GMT
#171
On December 21 2012 19:21 Gladiator333 wrote:
PartinG take care of business!


I have this strange feeling that one player will have one game each where they get utterly stomped. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Life will die to at least one wonwonwon.
AdministratorBreak the chains
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 21 2012 10:28 GMT
#172
On December 21 2012 18:01 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 17:35 Tsubbi wrote:
On December 21 2012 17:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I predict 4 immortal all ins, an immortal build time nerf and a 20% winrate for protoss before BL/infestor gets nerfed.


you protoss whiners are annoying the crap out of me, protoss isnt doing ANY bad against zerg or in general, if anything terrans struggle at the moment


What reality are you living in?


Protosses are doing fine. They win about half the time vs zerg. What reality are you living in? The only race that is legitimately struggling vs zerg is terran right now.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 10:32:00
December 21 2012 10:31 GMT
#173
On December 21 2012 19:28 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 18:01 Sabu113 wrote:
On December 21 2012 17:35 Tsubbi wrote:
On December 21 2012 17:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I predict 4 immortal all ins, an immortal build time nerf and a 20% winrate for protoss before BL/infestor gets nerfed.


you protoss whiners are annoying the crap out of me, protoss isnt doing ANY bad against zerg or in general, if anything terrans struggle at the moment


What reality are you living in?


Protosses are doing fine. They win about half the time vs zerg. What reality are you living in? The only race that is legitimately struggling vs zerg is terran right now.


Yes but as I said in my first post, those wins come from viable all ins. And I also said that if the primary protoss all in (the immortal all in) gets nerfed, winrates will drop immensely. Protoss is struggling just as hard in the lategame.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
December 21 2012 10:39 GMT
#174
This is amazing, I'll be happy to wake up early for 4Minute!

And this final is incredible, this is the clash of the titans that we were waiting for. Who will be the one and only dominating beast of the second half of 2012 ? Can't wait
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 21 2012 10:42 GMT
#175
If PartinG wins this, it means in November - December he has won a grand total of $162,000....wow 0.O
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
December 21 2012 11:11 GMT
#176
On December 21 2012 19:28 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 18:01 Sabu113 wrote:
On December 21 2012 17:35 Tsubbi wrote:
On December 21 2012 17:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I predict 4 immortal all ins, an immortal build time nerf and a 20% winrate for protoss before BL/infestor gets nerfed.


you protoss whiners are annoying the crap out of me, protoss isnt doing ANY bad against zerg or in general, if anything terrans struggle at the moment


What reality are you living in?


Protosses are doing fine. They win about half the time vs zerg. What reality are you living in? The only race that is legitimately struggling vs zerg is terran right now.

A lot of the english speaking community is disillusioned because a few protoss such as Naniwa complain incessantly about zerg, just because they suck at the matchup.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 21 2012 11:17 GMT
#177
On December 21 2012 20:11 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 19:28 blade55555 wrote:
On December 21 2012 18:01 Sabu113 wrote:
On December 21 2012 17:35 Tsubbi wrote:
On December 21 2012 17:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I predict 4 immortal all ins, an immortal build time nerf and a 20% winrate for protoss before BL/infestor gets nerfed.


you protoss whiners are annoying the crap out of me, protoss isnt doing ANY bad against zerg or in general, if anything terrans struggle at the moment


What reality are you living in?


Protosses are doing fine. They win about half the time vs zerg. What reality are you living in? The only race that is legitimately struggling vs zerg is terran right now.

A lot of the english speaking community is disillusioned because a few protoss such as Naniwa complain incessantly about zerg, just because they suck at the matchup.

we see fewer zergs than protoss who complain about the matchup being imbalanced :p
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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
December 21 2012 11:23 GMT
#178
PartinG vs Life, this should be good. PartinG has recently stated that he is up around 40 wins over life in practice games. Rumor has it Life has been practicing some 2 base play to throw off PartinG, we will definitely need to see something non-standard out of him if he wishes to pull off a win.

Interesting note: Abysmal City and Bel'shir Vestige (Ohana 2.0 from the tileset and minimap :D) are the last two maps of the bo7 and also the best immortal-sentry all-in maps.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 21 2012 11:28 GMT
#179
On December 21 2012 20:23 nomyx wrote:
PartinG vs Life, this should be good. PartinG has recently stated that he is up around 40 wins over life in practice games. Rumor has it Life has been practicing some 2 base play to throw off PartinG, we will definitely need to see something non-standard out of him if he wishes to pull off a win.

Interesting note: Abysmal City and Bel'shir Vestige (Ohana 2.0 from the tileset and minimap :D) are the last two maps of the bo7 and also the best immortal-sentry all-in maps.


Actually, I think that Abyssal City is abysmal for Immortal-sentry all-ins

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Hehehe
AdministratorBreak the chains
Gimmeurladderpoints
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany372 Posts
December 21 2012 11:30 GMT
#180
On December 21 2012 20:28 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 20:23 nomyx wrote:
PartinG vs Life, this should be good. PartinG has recently stated that he is up around 40 wins over life in practice games. Rumor has it Life has been practicing some 2 base play to throw off PartinG, we will definitely need to see something non-standard out of him if he wishes to pull off a win.

Interesting note: Abysmal City and Bel'shir Vestige (Ohana 2.0 from the tileset and minimap :D) are the last two maps of the bo7 and also the best immortal-sentry all-in maps.


Actually, I think that Abyssal City is abysmal for Immortal-sentry all-ins

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Hehehe


I see what you did there.
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