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Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
December 22 2012 12:11 GMT
#3421
Do it Parting, 3base all-in! We want an epic game 7!
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
December 22 2012 12:11 GMT
#3422
Parting looks broken...
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
December 22 2012 12:11 GMT
#3423
On December 22 2012 21:09 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 21:06 solon wrote:
It's appalling how quickly people jump the gun on these strats. You'd think the community would have learned something over the years. This is how competitive SC has always been, there's always a short period of time until a seemingly unbeatable strat is finally beaten. This time it took close to no time at all, and the match seems really close to me. It's, in fact, pretty damn good to watch.

Stephano's 35 game ZvP winning streak ended to Titan doing this build on Antiga back in February. Immortal Sentry has been around all year, and zergs have been complaining about it all year. It only got really bad when Protosses started saying fuck PvZ and only Immortal Sentry All-inning.


And yet the build is like 3-12 in GSL or some shit like that lol

Still better than losing to BL/infestor.
Revolutionist fan
KingOfNoodles
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia379 Posts
December 22 2012 12:11 GMT
#3424
I think it was not the best idea to do that push with those spawn positions, it is quite far to get to the third base of zerg so if you are delayed (losing probe/pylon) then your push won't be as effectively. Although this is all said in hindsight, maybe if Life delayed his unit production a bit, Parting would've been able to get to the Zerg's third.
minhblizzard
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
December 22 2012 12:11 GMT
#3425
On December 22 2012 21:10 Boiler Bandsman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 21:08 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Why has no one tried two warp prisms with the push?


The original reason was it slowed things down. The fastest version requires you to rally the first WP already.

The slower ones seem to prioritize the observer for creep-cleaning and burrow shenanigans.

Basically, robo time bottleneck.

Build another robo?
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
December 22 2012 12:11 GMT
#3426
On December 22 2012 21:10 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 21:05 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:04 Noc- wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:02 FataLe wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:01 Flonomenalz wrote:
Life is just better.


hahaha. dat post history.


I agree, this guy is spreading the same shit in every LR thread every fucking day.

So he isn't allowed to voice his opinion when it's in a completely respectful manner?


Completely respectful manner:

Show nested quote +
YEAH FUCK YOU PARTING

FUCK YOUR SOUL

STARTALE LIFE BITCH


Hehe.


LOOOOOOL.

Thread winner.
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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 22 2012 12:11 GMT
#3427
that tilt

COME ON PARTING
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 22 2012 12:11 GMT
#3428
On December 22 2012 21:10 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 21:05 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:04 Noc- wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:02 FataLe wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:01 Flonomenalz wrote:
Life is just better.


hahaha. dat post history.


I agree, this guy is spreading the same shit in every LR thread every fucking day.

So he isn't allowed to voice his opinion when it's in a completely respectful manner?


Completely respectful manner:

Show nested quote +
YEAH FUCK YOU PARTING

FUCK YOUR SOUL

STARTALE LIFE BITCH


Hehe.

I was talking about the post I quoted.

Hehe.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
December 22 2012 12:11 GMT
#3429
On December 22 2012 21:08 .kv wrote:
i wonder if it's better to just make 2 warp prisms so you dont have to rely on hoping your pylon/probe is untouched

Maybe if you are just a regular master league player, but at this level you can't afford the time or resources. Parting's push to a large extent relies on a very thin timing which means that infestors are impossible or very hard to get out (you either need something like 5:30 lair or to sacrifice a base or a bunch of units). There is a reason that even other GSL code S protosses have a hard time replicating Parting's success.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
December 22 2012 12:11 GMT
#3430
On December 22 2012 21:10 Arco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 21:06 solon wrote:
It's appalling how quickly people jump the gun on these strats. You'd think the community would have learned something over the years. This is how competitive SC has always been, there's always a short period of time until a seemingly unbeatable strat is finally beaten. This time it took close to no time at all, and the match seems really close to me. It's, in fact, pretty damn good to watch.

Lots of the community is new to the StarCraft scene, even 2010'ers. They have no faith!

PartinG's Immortal/Sentry all in is sick to watch. Force Fields aside, the Immortal pickup/drop micro is reminiscent of Reaver/Shuttle micro in Brood War.


With that game done, I now agree with this. Those pickups were insane. He was microing his heart out. But, Life just played so well. Was on top of the ball throughout.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
December 22 2012 12:12 GMT
#3431
On December 22 2012 21:10 Arco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 21:06 solon wrote:
It's appalling how quickly people jump the gun on these strats. You'd think the community would have learned something over the years. This is how competitive SC has always been, there's always a short period of time until a seemingly unbeatable strat is finally beaten. This time it took close to no time at all, and the match seems really close to me. It's, in fact, pretty damn good to watch.

Lots of the community is new to the StarCraft scene, even 2010'ers. They have no faith!

PartinG's Immortal/Sentry all in is sick to watch. Force Fields aside, the Immortal pickup/drop micro is reminiscent of Reaver/Shuttle micro in Brood War.

Bring back 2 immortal warp prism speed harass!
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
December 22 2012 12:12 GMT
#3432
Professional Protoss can't complain in 2012
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
December 22 2012 12:12 GMT
#3433
On December 22 2012 21:10 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 21:05 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:04 Noc- wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:02 FataLe wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:01 Flonomenalz wrote:
Life is just better.


hahaha. dat post history.


I agree, this guy is spreading the same shit in every LR thread every fucking day.

So he isn't allowed to voice his opinion when it's in a completely respectful manner?


Completely respectful manner:

Show nested quote +
YEAH FUCK YOU PARTING

FUCK YOUR SOUL

STARTALE LIFE BITCH


Hehe.

He didn't really do that there though...Anyone can just go into your post history and pull up your worst shit..>_>
solon
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2 Posts
December 22 2012 12:12 GMT
#3434
On December 22 2012 21:09 Confuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 21:06 solon wrote:
It's appalling how quickly people jump the gun on these strats. You'd think the community would have learned something over the years. This is how competitive SC has always been, there's always a short period of time until a seemingly unbeatable strat is finally beaten. This time it took close to no time at all, and the match seems really close to me. It's, in fact, pretty damn good to watch.


and the short period of time where broodlord infestor was beaten...?

Sorry I couldn't help myself. haha, I find the scene is fine but with the promise of HotS allowing other zerg compositions to get a chance, I am just waiting till then.

It is a longer period of time, I agree, but it's still relatively short (so far) - and the results overall aren't as one-sided as many of the viewers might imply.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 22 2012 12:12 GMT
#3435
On December 22 2012 21:09 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 21:06 Dodgin wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:05 Goibon wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:04 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:03 goswser wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:03 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:02 goswser wrote:
In other news, when the entire time you're doing an allin you have 1100-2000 minerals you're doing something wrong. Good micro, but his macro was lacking in that game.


you can't warp in and micro the immortals

I don't know, make 10 gateways instead of 8 then, so when you do use warpins you can spend more of your money?


it is all about the timing; 10 gates would throw the timing off and wouldn't be as potent, you can only support 8 gates off of two bases.

the point is as soon as he lost his forward pylon, he needed to realise he wouldn't be able to warp in as much, so each warp in needed to be bigger, so he should have made ~2 more gates


It's so risky to go back to your base and build 2 more gates, even with the APM of a pro gamer. you look away for two seconds, miss FF's and you lose.

Then learn to put down gates faster (like Parting would need more than 1sec). Learn to watch minimap. Learn to react. Learn to recognize when you are in minimal danger. This is supposed to be the highest level of play surely we can expect Parting to be able to build 2 gates just like we expect zerg's in zvz to inject and tech during ling-baneling wars.


I don't think you understand how much micro and apm goes into these pushes, you don't have time to go back to your base, and you never have your camera leave the area where your units are once you start fighting unless you need to make pylons to un supply block yourself.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 22 2012 12:12 GMT
#3436
Come on Parting, let it go to game 7!
AdministratorBreak the chains
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
December 22 2012 12:13 GMT
#3437
On December 22 2012 21:10 Boiler Bandsman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 21:08 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Why has no one tried two warp prisms with the push?


The original reason was it slowed things down. The fastest version requires you to rally the first WP already.

The slower ones seem to prioritize the observer for creep-cleaning and burrow shenanigans.

Basically, robo time bottleneck.

Well if Parting is gonna have so many Minerals banked up, might as well queue up another Warp Prism after the Observer then.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
December 22 2012 12:13 GMT
#3438
Someone's gotta keep KongTale alive...
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
December 22 2012 12:13 GMT
#3439
Parting is losing it
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
December 22 2012 12:13 GMT
#3440
On December 22 2012 21:12 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 21:09 rasnj wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:06 Dodgin wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:05 Goibon wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:04 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:03 goswser wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:03 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 22 2012 21:02 goswser wrote:
In other news, when the entire time you're doing an allin you have 1100-2000 minerals you're doing something wrong. Good micro, but his macro was lacking in that game.


you can't warp in and micro the immortals

I don't know, make 10 gateways instead of 8 then, so when you do use warpins you can spend more of your money?


it is all about the timing; 10 gates would throw the timing off and wouldn't be as potent, you can only support 8 gates off of two bases.

the point is as soon as he lost his forward pylon, he needed to realise he wouldn't be able to warp in as much, so each warp in needed to be bigger, so he should have made ~2 more gates


It's so risky to go back to your base and build 2 more gates, even with the APM of a pro gamer. you look away for two seconds, miss FF's and you lose.

Then learn to put down gates faster (like Parting would need more than 1sec). Learn to watch minimap. Learn to react. Learn to recognize when you are in minimal danger. This is supposed to be the highest level of play surely we can expect Parting to be able to build 2 gates just like we expect zerg's in zvz to inject and tech during ling-baneling wars.


I don't think you understand how much micro and apm goes into these pushes, you don't have time to go back to your base, and you never have your camera leave the area where your units are once you start fighting unless you need to make pylons to un supply block yourself.

then play faster so you can do it
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