EPT[Day 1] HomeStory Cup VI - Page 47
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nimbim
Germany985 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:36 DJHelium wrote: This is true to some extent, but also remember that maps have a big part of this. There is a reason that this style is so very strong on Metropolis, and that Goody can defeat Stephano on it. Mvp even did it against a protoss, and would've won if he had scouted the mothership and not had his BC's clumped up. Also nice analogy  Agreed. Metropolis is tailor made for this kind of play. But if you look at the game on Ohana. It might LOOK like the game was close and Goody was winning engagements. But in reality, at no point in the game did it look possible for him to win. Even with better macro, he would have got crushed if he tried to move on creep. | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:32 vthree wrote: The funny thing is, Goody's style is not really 'viable' at the pro level. Even if he had better macro, it doesn't matter. Because his 'style' is all based on defense so macro doesn't matter as much as long as you get max. Eventhough it makes the game 'look' close, it really isn't. Remember, Goody never had to move his army and go on creep. If the fights are on creep and you need to control moving the entire army, it looks totally different. It is like a soccer team playing all 10 man as defenders, they might only lose 2-0 to a superior team. But they will always lose. You can't really say "Well, if they learned to score a couple goals, they can win". But remember to get the goals, they would have to commit players going forward, thus weakening their defense and they can lose 4-0, 5-0/ absolutely right! Goody's style was allways about race and !!!mapabuse!!!. Modern maps are way less abusive than the old ones, so he can't make that happen anymore. So he does the only thing he is able to without losing the game in the first minutes and this is turtle and slowly grabbing expansions. This works against players who don't know what to do and this may work on maps, where you can easily secure 5bases like metropolis. But this style is easy to beat as stephano showed. It's not that the last games were extremely difficult to play for stephano. Instead he could afford to waste units here and there and was still totally fine with everything. It's just tiring and boring to play against, because you have to wait for the right time to attack, attacking at the wrong moment is the only thing, that can lose you the game there. If Goody sticks to this in the future, there is no room for improvement for him. He might be successful in the beginning of HotS with his abusive play but his time will not last as long as it did in WoL. | ||
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sitromit
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iLLKiD
Germany72 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:36 DarkLordOlli wrote: Please have TLO and Cloud cast together TLO, goody and cloud. Watch cloud slowly lose his sanity. | ||
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Discerpo
263 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8309 Posts
Oh good stuff! Hadn't realized that, that's awesome. Have all HSC's had that? I could've sworn they were round robin before. This is better though, I hate the ol map score, head to head, internal map score BS  | ||
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Mouzone
3937 Posts
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Girondelle
France969 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:44 Mouzone wrote: Why did Steph play Feast again? GSL format | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:44 Mouzone wrote: Why did Steph play Feast again? i believe it's because the groups are done via tiebreaker, IEM style. Someone get mrbitter on the phone to see who makes it through on mapscore! | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:44 Discerpo wrote: Feast so manner you better should be mannered vs Stephano, the Zerg who actually shows how good manners have to be shown (in game) | ||
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Mouzone
3937 Posts
Oh. | ||
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nooboon
2602 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:44 Fusilero wrote: TLO, goody and cloud. Watch cloud slowly lose his sanity. Only way to make it worse is to have that trio cast a socke game  | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:45 Fragile51 wrote: i believe it's because the groups are done via tiebreaker, IEM style. Someone get mrbitter on the phone to see who makes it through on mapscore! I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:44 TheDougler wrote: Oh good stuff! Hadn't realized that, that's awesome. Have all HSC's had that? I could've sworn they were round robin before. This is better though, I hate the ol map score, head to head, internal map score BS They have just adopted this format in this HSC. | ||
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:44 TheDougler wrote: Oh good stuff! Hadn't realized that, that's awesome. Have all HSC's had that? I could've sworn they were round robin before. This is better though, I hate the ol map score, head to head, internal map score BS I much prefer round robins. Your chances in this format depends a lot on who you're drawn to play against first. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
goddamnit corin, you should know better :p | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:44 TheDougler wrote: Oh good stuff! Hadn't realized that, that's awesome. Have all HSC's had that? I could've sworn they were round robin before. This is better though, I hate the ol map score, head to head, internal map score BS Nope. This is the first one to use it. I think because the tiebreaks got too confusing and in this case, every series matters for every player. | ||
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