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On December 20 2012 01:31 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 01:30 graan wrote:On December 20 2012 01:26 Boucot wrote:On December 20 2012 01:26 Glubschauge wrote:
whos casting Stephano vs Feast? Grubby, Kaelaris and? ReaL Did they say why he isnt playing ? seems odd I think real is living at take's place since type folded that's my wild guess so they invited him to cast.
He lives in Düsseldorf I think
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On December 20 2012 01:12 Voodoomoose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 01:09 Caphe wrote:On December 20 2012 01:07 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:06 Big J wrote:On December 20 2012 01:01 Voodoomoose wrote:
i just feel so bad for stephano that he has to deal with playing vs goody... missing depots left and right but it doesnt matter! goody is the most abusive player ive ever seen Which part of his strategy is abusive? It's a game with defenders advantage. He defends. This is SMART. maybe the part where he sits around and does nothing for 30 minutes EVERY game..? sure you can call it smart but it shows no amount of skill at all and isnt interesting at all Lol, what are you talking about. This is STRATEGY game, you do whatever you need to do to win. As the casters pointed out, if Goody has better mechanic(no supply blocks, secure bases faster etc) he can beat Stephano. Get you opponents frustrated, annoyed is a very legit strat. <3 Goody. im just going to assume you are also mechanically horrible at the game and cling to goody as the player most like yourself. also theres the REAL TIME part of the game too, which goody completely ignores each and every game. I'm not disagreeing that its not a bad strategy to use if you are incapable of doing anything more complex, just a bit disappointing that his style is "viable" at pro level
The funny thing is, Goody's style is not really 'viable' at the pro level. Even if he had better macro, it doesn't matter. Because his 'style' is all based on defense so macro doesn't matter as much as long as you get max. Eventhough it makes the game 'look' close, it really isn't. Remember, Goody never had to move his army and go on creep. If the fights are on creep and you need to control moving the entire army, it looks totally different.
It is like a soccer team playing all 10 man as defenders, they might only lose 2-0 to a superior team. But they will always lose. You can't really say "Well, if they learned to score a couple goals, they can win". But remember to get the goals, they would have to commit players going forward, thus weakening their defense and they can lose 4-0, 5-0/
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On December 20 2012 01:30 Voodoomoose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 01:27 Caphe wrote:On December 20 2012 01:12 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:09 Caphe wrote:On December 20 2012 01:07 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:06 Big J wrote:On December 20 2012 01:01 Voodoomoose wrote:
i just feel so bad for stephano that he has to deal with playing vs goody... missing depots left and right but it doesnt matter! goody is the most abusive player ive ever seen Which part of his strategy is abusive? It's a game with defenders advantage. He defends. This is SMART. maybe the part where he sits around and does nothing for 30 minutes EVERY game..? sure you can call it smart but it shows no amount of skill at all and isnt interesting at all Lol, what are you talking about. This is STRATEGY game, you do whatever you need to do to win. As the casters pointed out, if Goody has better mechanic(no supply blocks, secure bases faster etc) he can beat Stephano. Get you opponents frustrated, annoyed is a very legit strat. <3 Goody. im just going to assume you are also mechanically horrible at the game and cling to goody as the player most like yourself. also theres the REAL TIME part of the game too, which goody completely ignores each and every game. I'm not disagreeing that its not a bad strategy to use if you are incapable of doing anything more complex, just a bit disappointing that his style is "viable" at pro level Lol, I am Master, whats your? And you are very agrressive, you are not gonna last long on TL with this attitude. You must be new at SC2 pro scene. Goody had been in the pro-scene when SC2 starts and what makes people like him is hes slow at mechanic but still can take games from very good player, that part tells you how good he is at strategy and positioning. If I am not allowed to state my opinion then I suppose posting on TL is not the right place for me. These are some of my first posts because I figured I would end up getting in senseless arguments (like this one  ) but I have been reading things here and following the pro scene fairly constantly since the beta. Also, you are pretty aggressive yourself seeing as I'm also masters, 950 points.
You can state your opponent as well as I am. But not insulting or offend people.
im just going to assume you are also mechanically horrible at the game and cling to goody as the player most like yourself what is this? if not insulting the one you are talking to?
I am gonna stop response to any of your further comments. Just have fun watching this awesome events  .
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On December 20 2012 01:30 Voodoomoose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 01:27 Caphe wrote:On December 20 2012 01:12 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:09 Caphe wrote:On December 20 2012 01:07 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:06 Big J wrote:On December 20 2012 01:01 Voodoomoose wrote:
i just feel so bad for stephano that he has to deal with playing vs goody... missing depots left and right but it doesnt matter! goody is the most abusive player ive ever seen Which part of his strategy is abusive? It's a game with defenders advantage. He defends. This is SMART. maybe the part where he sits around and does nothing for 30 minutes EVERY game..? sure you can call it smart but it shows no amount of skill at all and isnt interesting at all Lol, what are you talking about. This is STRATEGY game, you do whatever you need to do to win. As the casters pointed out, if Goody has better mechanic(no supply blocks, secure bases faster etc) he can beat Stephano. Get you opponents frustrated, annoyed is a very legit strat. <3 Goody. im just going to assume you are also mechanically horrible at the game and cling to goody as the player most like yourself. also theres the REAL TIME part of the game too, which goody completely ignores each and every game. I'm not disagreeing that its not a bad strategy to use if you are incapable of doing anything more complex, just a bit disappointing that his style is "viable" at pro level Lol, I am Master, whats your? And you are very agrressive, you are not gonna last long on TL with this attitude. You must be new at SC2 pro scene. Goody had been in the pro-scene when SC2 starts and what makes people like him is hes slow at mechanic but still can take games from very good player, that part tells you how good he is at strategy and positioning. If I am not allowed to state my opinion then I suppose posting on TL is not the right place for me. These are some of my first posts because I figured I would end up getting in senseless arguments (like this one ) but I have been reading things here and following the pro scene fairly constantly since the beta. Also, you are pretty aggressive yourself seeing as I'm also masters, 950 points.
"maybe the part where he sits around and does nothing for 30 minutes EVERY game..? sure you can call it smart but it shows no amount of skill at all and isnt interesting at all"
this is is your opinion you are very very deluded
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On December 20 2012 01:32 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 01:12 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:09 Caphe wrote:On December 20 2012 01:07 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:06 Big J wrote:On December 20 2012 01:01 Voodoomoose wrote:
i just feel so bad for stephano that he has to deal with playing vs goody... missing depots left and right but it doesnt matter! goody is the most abusive player ive ever seen Which part of his strategy is abusive? It's a game with defenders advantage. He defends. This is SMART. maybe the part where he sits around and does nothing for 30 minutes EVERY game..? sure you can call it smart but it shows no amount of skill at all and isnt interesting at all Lol, what are you talking about. This is STRATEGY game, you do whatever you need to do to win. As the casters pointed out, if Goody has better mechanic(no supply blocks, secure bases faster etc) he can beat Stephano. Get you opponents frustrated, annoyed is a very legit strat. <3 Goody. im just going to assume you are also mechanically horrible at the game and cling to goody as the player most like yourself. also theres the REAL TIME part of the game too, which goody completely ignores each and every game. I'm not disagreeing that its not a bad strategy to use if you are incapable of doing anything more complex, just a bit disappointing that his style is "viable" at pro level The funny thing is, Goody's style is not really 'viable' at the pro level. Even if he had better macro, it doesn't matter. Because his 'style' is all based on defense so macro doesn't matter as much as long as you get max. Eventhough it makes the game 'look' close, it really isn't. Remember, Goody never had to move his army and go on creep. If the fights are on creep and you need to control moving the entire army, it looks totally different. It is like a soccer team playing all 10 man as defenders, they might only lose 2-0 to a superior team. But they will always lose. You can't really say "Well, if they learned to score a couple goals, they can win". But remember to get the goals, they would have to commit players going forward, thus weakening their defense and they can lose 4-0, 5-0/
As long as he manges it to defeat players like Socke, Hasu or Monchi he is fine.
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can somebody tell me where i can buy the hd pass for this tournament only? i dont want to buy the monthly subscription...
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On December 20 2012 01:33 Caphe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 01:30 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:27 Caphe wrote:On December 20 2012 01:12 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:09 Caphe wrote:On December 20 2012 01:07 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:06 Big J wrote:On December 20 2012 01:01 Voodoomoose wrote:
i just feel so bad for stephano that he has to deal with playing vs goody... missing depots left and right but it doesnt matter! goody is the most abusive player ive ever seen Which part of his strategy is abusive? It's a game with defenders advantage. He defends. This is SMART. maybe the part where he sits around and does nothing for 30 minutes EVERY game..? sure you can call it smart but it shows no amount of skill at all and isnt interesting at all Lol, what are you talking about. This is STRATEGY game, you do whatever you need to do to win. As the casters pointed out, if Goody has better mechanic(no supply blocks, secure bases faster etc) he can beat Stephano. Get you opponents frustrated, annoyed is a very legit strat. <3 Goody. im just going to assume you are also mechanically horrible at the game and cling to goody as the player most like yourself. also theres the REAL TIME part of the game too, which goody completely ignores each and every game. I'm not disagreeing that its not a bad strategy to use if you are incapable of doing anything more complex, just a bit disappointing that his style is "viable" at pro level Lol, I am Master, whats your? And you are very agrressive, you are not gonna last long on TL with this attitude. You must be new at SC2 pro scene. Goody had been in the pro-scene when SC2 starts and what makes people like him is hes slow at mechanic but still can take games from very good player, that part tells you how good he is at strategy and positioning. If I am not allowed to state my opinion then I suppose posting on TL is not the right place for me. These are some of my first posts because I figured I would end up getting in senseless arguments (like this one ) but I have been reading things here and following the pro scene fairly constantly since the beta. Also, you are pretty aggressive yourself seeing as I'm also masters, 950 points. You can state your opponent as well as I am. But not insulting or offend people. im just going to assume you are also mechanically horrible at the game and cling to goody as the player most like yourself what is this? if not insulting the one you are talking to?
you can go back a few pages to see that I already admitted that I believed that sentence to be too harsh
EDIT: being completely serious and as non-offensive as possible here, thats one of the few reasons I would see for people enjoying Goody's play, the fact that lots of people can relate to not having pro level mechanics and seeing someone do somewhat well without them
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Canada16217 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:34 graNite wrote:
can somebody tell me where i can buy the hd pass for this tournament only? i dont want to buy the monthly subscription...
You can only buy the monthly subscription as far as I know.
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On December 20 2012 01:35 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 01:34 graNite wrote:
can somebody tell me where i can buy the hd pass for this tournament only? i dont want to buy the monthly subscription... You can only buy the monthly subscription as far as I know.
In the options you can switch it to a one month pass without additional seasons.
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Austria24422 Posts
Please have TLO and Cloud cast together
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On December 20 2012 01:32 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 01:12 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:09 Caphe wrote:On December 20 2012 01:07 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:06 Big J wrote:On December 20 2012 01:01 Voodoomoose wrote:
i just feel so bad for stephano that he has to deal with playing vs goody... missing depots left and right but it doesnt matter! goody is the most abusive player ive ever seen Which part of his strategy is abusive? It's a game with defenders advantage. He defends. This is SMART. maybe the part where he sits around and does nothing for 30 minutes EVERY game..? sure you can call it smart but it shows no amount of skill at all and isnt interesting at all Lol, what are you talking about. This is STRATEGY game, you do whatever you need to do to win. As the casters pointed out, if Goody has better mechanic(no supply blocks, secure bases faster etc) he can beat Stephano. Get you opponents frustrated, annoyed is a very legit strat. <3 Goody. im just going to assume you are also mechanically horrible at the game and cling to goody as the player most like yourself. also theres the REAL TIME part of the game too, which goody completely ignores each and every game. I'm not disagreeing that its not a bad strategy to use if you are incapable of doing anything more complex, just a bit disappointing that his style is "viable" at pro level The funny thing is, Goody's style is not really 'viable' at the pro level. Even if he had better macro, it doesn't matter. Because his 'style' is all based on defense so macro doesn't matter as much as long as you get max. Eventhough it makes the game 'look' close, it really isn't. Remember, Goody never had to move his army and go on creep. If the fights are on creep and you need to control moving the entire army, it looks totally different. It is like a soccer team playing all 10 man as defenders, they might only lose 2-0 to a superior team. But they will always lose. You can't really say "Well, if they learned to score a couple goals, they can win". But remember to get the goals, they would have to commit players going forward, thus weakening their defense and they can lose 4-0, 5-0/
This is true to some extent, but also remember that maps have a big part of this. There is a reason that this style is so very strong on Metropolis, and that Goody can defeat Stephano on it.
Mvp even did it against a protoss, and would've won if he had scouted the mothership and not had his BC's clumped up.
Also nice analogy
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United Kingdom3482 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:34 graNite wrote:
can somebody tell me where i can buy the hd pass for this tournament only? i dont want to buy the monthly subscription...
You can buy the monthly thing then insta cancel the recurring payments so you are only paying once.
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On December 20 2012 01:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Please have TLO and Cloud cast together
You are an evil person !
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On December 20 2012 01:34 graNite wrote:
can somebody tell me where i can buy the hd pass for this tournament only? i dont want to buy the monthly subscription...
Just get it and cancel the auto-renewal in the twitch.tv settings.
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YEEEEEEEEES HOMESTORY CUP WOOOOOOOOO <3
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On December 20 2012 01:34 Kazil wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 01:32 vthree wrote:On December 20 2012 01:12 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:09 Caphe wrote:On December 20 2012 01:07 Voodoomoose wrote:On December 20 2012 01:06 Big J wrote:On December 20 2012 01:01 Voodoomoose wrote:
i just feel so bad for stephano that he has to deal with playing vs goody... missing depots left and right but it doesnt matter! goody is the most abusive player ive ever seen Which part of his strategy is abusive? It's a game with defenders advantage. He defends. This is SMART. maybe the part where he sits around and does nothing for 30 minutes EVERY game..? sure you can call it smart but it shows no amount of skill at all and isnt interesting at all Lol, what are you talking about. This is STRATEGY game, you do whatever you need to do to win. As the casters pointed out, if Goody has better mechanic(no supply blocks, secure bases faster etc) he can beat Stephano. Get you opponents frustrated, annoyed is a very legit strat. <3 Goody. im just going to assume you are also mechanically horrible at the game and cling to goody as the player most like yourself. also theres the REAL TIME part of the game too, which goody completely ignores each and every game. I'm not disagreeing that its not a bad strategy to use if you are incapable of doing anything more complex, just a bit disappointing that his style is "viable" at pro level The funny thing is, Goody's style is not really 'viable' at the pro level. Even if he had better macro, it doesn't matter. Because his 'style' is all based on defense so macro doesn't matter as much as long as you get max. Eventhough it makes the game 'look' close, it really isn't. Remember, Goody never had to move his army and go on creep. If the fights are on creep and you need to control moving the entire army, it looks totally different. It is like a soccer team playing all 10 man as defenders, they might only lose 2-0 to a superior team. But they will always lose. You can't really say "Well, if they learned to score a couple goals, they can win". But remember to get the goals, they would have to commit players going forward, thus weakening their defense and they can lose 4-0, 5-0/ As long as he manges it to defeat players like Socke, Hasu or Monchi he is fine.
Yes, he will pick up wins here and there. But I don't think you can really make deep runs in tournaments just using this style. You can probably pick up some wins using blind all-ins as well. So I think that is fine. It is not like he is winning tournaments left and right with poor mechanics (that would be imbalanced). He can pick up wins here and there with an unique style, good for him.
I am just try to show people that are going "If Goody had better macro, he would be a dominate player".
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Ooops Mana is doing a good job in this game 2 vs TLO. Hope TLO can hold on in the next Protoss push.
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I <3 Players casting
Dimaga is awesome
So is Grubby
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On December 20 2012 01:40 DinosaurJones wrote:
I <3 Players casting
Dimaga is awesome
So is Grubby
This is what makes HSC the best tourney out there. I rarely watch SC2 tourneys nowadays but HSC is just too awesome  .
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