On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote: It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.
This. Imagine how much shit Blizzard would have gotten if they introduced Arkanoid to ladder and played it in WCS. PL is a good place for testing but don't jump the gun and say we should implement this in other tournaments yet.
Am I insane or does the tileset on cloud kingdom in proleague look different than ladder? it might be the brightness making it look weird. It's especially apparent on the HD korean stream.
On December 16 2012 13:44 Fionn wrote: Coca is pretty good.
I lol'd.
Other note: Kespa maps make starcraft 2 so much more interesting. Sc2 NEEDS new maps. NEEDS.
Do you really want arkanoid in something like Dreamhack, MLG or even the GSL?
Ya, maybe just one or two experimental maps in place of some the older or less popular maps. Granted such a change would only increase the volatility of an already volatile game but it would still be entertaining.
On December 16 2012 13:59 Dodgin wrote: Am I insane or does the tileset on cloud kingdom in proleague look different than ladder? it might be the brightness making it look weird. It's especially apparent on the HD korean stream.
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote: It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.
This. Imagine how much shit Blizzard would have gotten if they introduced Arkanoid to ladder and played it in WCS. PL is a good place for testing but don't jump the gun and say we should implement this in other tournaments yet.
I liked Atlantis Spacebear. It was sort of imbalanced but it experimented with something cool and thats fun. Somtimes in order to be interesting you just gotta go for style points.
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote: It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.
because why, it hasn't 9000 games played on it? Like ohana does (~7000wonwon), like CK does (bl\infestor everytime)? Why so close-minded and kespa-hating lol
Lol, Kespa hating? He said PL was the IDEAL place to test these maps... How is that Kespa hating??? Fanboy much?
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote: It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.
What, blizzard, high standard of map making, arkanoid bad? Most of the wcs and gsl maps are made by non blizzard map makers, and blizzard has turned out some of the worst maps in sc2. Does slag pits or scrap station ring a bell?
That's the point. Blizzard churns out shitty maps and gets tons of hate. Kespa churns out shitty maps and all the fanboys circlejerk over how "unique" it is.
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote: It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.
Every Blizzard map is an attempt to replicate the "standard" BW pro maps that were perfected over years by KeSPA mapmakers. Neo Arkanoid is one of the most well-known of those maps. So no, this is not just some garbage that kespa "vomited up."
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote: It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.
What, blizzard, high standard of map making, arkanoid bad? Most of the wcs and gsl maps are made by non blizzard map makers, and blizzard has turned out some of the worst maps in sc2. Does slag pits or scrap station ring a bell?
That's the point. Blizzard churns out shitty maps and gets tons of hate. Kespa churns out shitty maps and all the fanboys circlejerk over how "unique" it is.
Yup, Kespa going to release War of Steppes next round and all the Kespa fans will rejoice.
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote: It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.
because why, it hasn't 9000 games played on it? Like ohana does (~7000wonwon), like CK does (bl\infestor everytime)? Why so close-minded and kespa-hating lol
I don't mean to kespa-hate, it's closer to community-hate. People freak out about maps that are as tame as Steppes of War, but then Kespa makes Arkanoid and suddenly it's "well the metagame just has to change for Arkanoid!" Double standard so much. I would love to see crazy maps that turn the metagame upside down.
Maybe enormous maps with crazy features are the future of game balance?
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