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[Code A] RO24 Day 1 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 17

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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 12 2012 10:02 GMT
#321
--- Nuked ---
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
December 12 2012 10:02 GMT
#322
Noblesse looking good!
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 12 2012 10:02 GMT
#323
DRG's mistakes aside, Noblesse just played a great game.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
December 12 2012 10:02 GMT
#324
I like the "make 20 mutas" make mass ling/bling and take 20 bases style on WW for Zerg. Don't worry about trading too cost effectively just be ready to wipe out their bases quickly if they move out. Snipe stuff with Mutas, etc. I'm bad compared to pros though so what do I know. I would not want to use Infestor/Blord though here.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
mith652
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia151 Posts
December 12 2012 10:02 GMT
#325
WW is good if the terran can get to late game in a good position, its just the mid game that can be a bit dicey because it is harder to punish early greed from zerg due to map size.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#326
sick game
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#327
On December 12 2012 19:01 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 18:59 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:58 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:57 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:55 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:54 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:50 Maloreon wrote:
I still give the edge to Scarlett for best overall creep spread mechanics (if you have not watched her stream it's truly insane)... but that is pretty wild for a game on WW. 12:00 mark and he was pushing the halfway mark and not the "single line of creep" style it was the full map covered.

Why is it that some games DRG's mechanics (mainly creep) are 2x better than others? It seems random.


Creep vs. bads on ladder is easy. In a GSL booth it's really different. The whole point of creep pushing is that it's down to multi-tasking - if you're not having to multi-task much because your opponent isn't forcing you to do anything you can fill the whole map.

A Zerg's success with creep is hugely down to how much they devote to it and to what extent your opponent is devoting against it. How useful it is depends on map and opponent, so that's the real determinant.


Her creep spread is extremely good in tournaments as well.

Foreign Terrans =/= Korean Terrans.

And like I said, it depends how much you want to devote to creep spread. If DRG wanted to he could have the entire map covered every time but the rest of his game would suffer for it.


I guess she's never played a Korean terran before.


Not at all what I said.


I said that her creep spread is good in tournaments as well, then you said "Foreign Terrans =/= Korean Terrans." Either you're saying that she's not playing Korean terrans in tournaments, or you're just randomly deciding to inform me that foreign terrans and Korean terrans are not the same.

Let's not derail the thread with an argument about whose creep spread is the best. I would say Scarlett's creep spread is the best, but it doesn't really relate to this thread. More on point, no clue how Noblesse won that game. Then again I'm watching the free stream and with the quality it is a bit hard to tell what's happening.
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Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#328
That was absolutely sick play from Noblesse. Unless you have played late game TvZ yourself it's hard to understand how insanely hard it is to win on big maps like Zergwind.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#329
Well played Noblesse. Really good decision making, just sitting tight and expanding on Whirlwind, until Tank/bio beats ultras.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#330
drg looked very sexy for a long time in that game!
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 10:04:28
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#331
On December 12 2012 19:02 monkybone wrote:
The problem: DRG thought he had it when he remaxed with lings.

He should have remade his drones and built another T3 army.


Yeah I saw that too. A stream of lings ran across the map, and then less than a minute later commentators noted a huge gas bank and almost no minerals.

EDIT: and there was this odd bit where I think one of his bases was not mining minerals at all. But then it might have been a quick shot whilst his drones were still in long distance mine mode just after a new expand perhaps
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Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#332
IMO, the raven vs infestor fights are going to be real cool now
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#333
On December 12 2012 18:59 Waxangel wrote:
WW is actually better for Terrans super late wtf :O???


WW has always been better for terrans super late. Because BLs aren't good here due to map size so Terrans know it will likely be Ultras and have enough marauders out. That is why you see players like HyuN do 2-2 bane ling muta busts.


PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#334
On December 12 2012 19:02 trinxified wrote:
Why does it tick me off when they pronounce it as: "Nob-ehh-less" ....

Why not "Nob-less-eh"?


Perhaps because that's not how you pronounce it?
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 10:04:21
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#335
drg looked so sexy that game (for like 30 minutes) and then he just died (in like 2 seconds)
#TheOneTrueDong
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
December 12 2012 10:04 GMT
#336
On December 12 2012 19:03 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 19:01 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:59 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:58 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:57 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:55 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:54 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:50 Maloreon wrote:
I still give the edge to Scarlett for best overall creep spread mechanics (if you have not watched her stream it's truly insane)... but that is pretty wild for a game on WW. 12:00 mark and he was pushing the halfway mark and not the "single line of creep" style it was the full map covered.

Why is it that some games DRG's mechanics (mainly creep) are 2x better than others? It seems random.


Creep vs. bads on ladder is easy. In a GSL booth it's really different. The whole point of creep pushing is that it's down to multi-tasking - if you're not having to multi-task much because your opponent isn't forcing you to do anything you can fill the whole map.

A Zerg's success with creep is hugely down to how much they devote to it and to what extent your opponent is devoting against it. How useful it is depends on map and opponent, so that's the real determinant.


Her creep spread is extremely good in tournaments as well.

Foreign Terrans =/= Korean Terrans.

And like I said, it depends how much you want to devote to creep spread. If DRG wanted to he could have the entire map covered every time but the rest of his game would suffer for it.


I guess she's never played a Korean terran before.


Not at all what I said.


I said that her creep spread is good in tournaments as well, then you said "Foreign Terrans =/= Korean Terrans." Either you're saying that she's not playing Korean terrans in tournaments, or you're just randomly deciding to inform me that foreign terrans and Korean terrans are not the same.

Let's not derail the thread with an argument about whose creep spread is the best. I would say Scarlett's creep spread is the best, but it doesn't really relate to this thread. More on point, no clue how Noblesse won that game. Then again I'm watching the free stream and with the quality it is a bit hard to tell what's happening.


I need to get your sick proxy hatch build vs. FFE.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
kaokentake
Profile Joined July 2012
383 Posts
December 12 2012 10:04 GMT
#337
On December 12 2012 19:02 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 19:00 Waxangel wrote:
the way the ravens seal off a potential BL Switch is so sick ;/


I think you cant really say that. Not after this game anyways. The dead weight in muta's is what made Drg loose.



nah it wasnt the mutas at all. 20supply in mutas meant nothing. WW is a better lategame terran map if the terran knows what to do

what killed DRG was that whirlwind is so huge and the terran had a ton of orbitals, a orbital flys to a far away base and in 30 seconds generates thousands of minerals for the terran (enough for almost a full army)

while DRG's bases are far and spread out and he needs a ring of 15spines around a base to defend against a small bio drop otherwise the bio just goes to the 1 location spines arent and snipes stuff
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
December 12 2012 10:04 GMT
#338
I wish DRG would revert pack to early 2012 form. I love seeing him nomnom the shit out of every Code S terran.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 12 2012 10:04 GMT
#339
FINALLY got it to work.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
December 12 2012 10:04 GMT
#340
I must say, this enhanced HQ looks great!

Also, the flash players so far is much more stable than the GOM player
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