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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 09 2012 21:33 GMT
#301
I reeaaaally like the way DTs can work now because protoss finally has a way to challenge zerg for air control. Just super refreshing!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 09 2012 21:33 GMT
#302
Please someone burn Ohana. its bad in WoL why is it in Hots!! ahh
#TheOneTrueDong
polishedturd
Profile Joined October 2010
United States505 Posts
December 09 2012 21:33 GMT
#303
On December 10 2012 06:30 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
This seems kind of clustereffy so far, oh this happens, then over here this happens, why, I don't know, why? WE don't know!

However, I am wood league and y'all seem to like this so I will just need to get used to it, I will get it soon.


because everything and its mother has some sort of dumb new ability, it makes the game just a clusterfuck to watch

oracles do this, voidrays have charge, mothership core makes the nexus do something

the protoss design in particular just feels so stupidly complicated
http://i.imgur.com/EbrnM.jpg
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
December 09 2012 21:33 GMT
#304
On December 10 2012 06:27 kaokentake wrote:
i feel zerg needs a new pure anti-air air unit, possibly upgraded from the mutalisk or something. 300-200 cost and make it pure anti-air . so corrupters will be strong as just a midgame light anti-air that can become broodlords later


corrupters are not allowed to be too-strong of anti-air because they turn into broodlords but its biting zerg in the ass. now 1 voidray kills 3 corrupters with that new charge. corrupters dont need a buff but zerg should get some new unit




there is this unit called Hydra! I know they ahvnt been made in 2 years and you may not remeber but they still can be made!
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 09 2012 21:33 GMT
#305
Soe wins again. 2-0 so far.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
December 09 2012 21:33 GMT
#306
On December 10 2012 06:32 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:31 Supah wrote:
It's not instant charge, it's +6 dmg to armored, isn't it?


You activate the charge manually now, It's an ability.

I would like to see a test map with Hardened Shield as a castable spell a la QxC idea in HOTS. Could be interesting.
sc2pal
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland624 Posts
December 09 2012 21:33 GMT
#307
On December 10 2012 06:33 TommyP wrote:
Please someone burn Ohana. its bad in WoL why is it in Hots!! ahh



because family
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
December 09 2012 21:34 GMT
#308
On December 10 2012 06:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:30 FrogOfWar wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:29 DiuLaSing wrote:
so..what does the oracle ability now...i lost track=[


Kills drones apparently :D


Nono, it completely slaughters drones ^___^

Yeah Oracle DPS is quite sick, but it drains energy (4/sec I think) so I suppose it balances out a bit, plus Oracle's are literally flying paperweights. Still though, in late game a few with full energy can basically oneshot an entire mineral line.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 09 2012 21:34 GMT
#309
I wanna see that lair hydra speed common.
Cackle™
Kerwin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
December 09 2012 21:34 GMT
#310
I haven't watched any NASL this season... who's the cute European girl?
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 09 2012 21:34 GMT
#311
On December 10 2012 06:34 Kerwin wrote:
I haven't watched any NASL this season... who's the cute European girl?

Soe
#TheOneTrueDong
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
December 09 2012 21:34 GMT
#312
On December 10 2012 06:33 freerolll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:27 kaokentake wrote:
i feel zerg needs a new pure anti-air air unit, possibly upgraded from the mutalisk or something. 300-200 cost and make it pure anti-air . so corrupters will be strong as just a midgame light anti-air that can become broodlords later


corrupters are not allowed to be too-strong of anti-air because they turn into broodlords but its biting zerg in the ass. now 1 voidray kills 3 corrupters with that new charge. corrupters dont need a buff but zerg should get some new unit




there is this unit called Hydra! I know they ahvnt been made in 2 years and you may not remeber but they still can be made!

The 'h' key may be the least worn key on us Zerg player's keboards, custom binds notwithstanding.
Ameisenmann
Profile Joined April 2012
Albania296 Posts
December 09 2012 21:34 GMT
#313
On December 10 2012 06:32 Wayem wrote:
Quite worried about Protoss in HOTS... not concerning balance of course, but design wise. I feel the focus was put on air and personnally I HATE airtoss. Just like some solid ground macro play... and nothing really new here.

My protoss design & gateways revolution may never come

I still think it would be awesome to give gateways a building speed boost compared to warpgates..
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
December 09 2012 21:35 GMT
#314
On December 10 2012 06:33 freerolll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:27 kaokentake wrote:
i feel zerg needs a new pure anti-air air unit, possibly upgraded from the mutalisk or something. 300-200 cost and make it pure anti-air . so corrupters will be strong as just a midgame light anti-air that can become broodlords later


corrupters are not allowed to be too-strong of anti-air because they turn into broodlords but its biting zerg in the ass. now 1 voidray kills 3 corrupters with that new charge. corrupters dont need a buff but zerg should get some new unit




there is this unit called Hydra! I know they ahvnt been made in 2 years and you may not remeber but they still can be made!

Considering almost every PvZ i've played they have hydras..i think most people know :p
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
December 09 2012 21:35 GMT
#315
On December 10 2012 06:34 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:30 FrogOfWar wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:29 DiuLaSing wrote:
so..what does the oracle ability now...i lost track=[


Kills drones apparently :D


Nono, it completely slaughters drones ^___^

Yeah Oracle DPS is quite sick, but it drains energy (4/sec I think) so I suppose it balances out a bit, plus Oracle's are literally flying paperweights. Still though, in late game a few with full energy can basically oneshot an entire mineral line.


Nah, it's not balanced at all, but i guess they will tweak it down later. It's beta, good to test that stuff.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 09 2012 21:35 GMT
#316
lol why is Ohana in HotS. i guess it makes sense to use it in a game with Ret and casted by Rotti though. follow Liquidret on twitter.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Toobes
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden12 Posts
December 09 2012 21:35 GMT
#317
On December 10 2012 06:33 polishedturd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:30 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
This seems kind of clustereffy so far, oh this happens, then over here this happens, why, I don't know, why? WE don't know!

However, I am wood league and y'all seem to like this so I will just need to get used to it, I will get it soon.


because everything and its mother has some sort of dumb new ability, it makes the game just a clusterfuck to watch

oracles do this, voidrays have charge, mothership core makes the nexus do something

the protoss design in particular just feels so stupidly complicated

Will probably take some time getting used to watching it. And yes protoss is really complex and difficult to play atm in my opinion.
hej
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 09 2012 21:35 GMT
#318
On December 10 2012 06:34 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:30 FrogOfWar wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:29 DiuLaSing wrote:
so..what does the oracle ability now...i lost track=[


Kills drones apparently :D


Nono, it completely slaughters drones ^___^

Yeah Oracle DPS is quite sick, but it drains energy (4/sec I think) so I suppose it balances out a bit, plus Oracle's are literally flying paperweights. Still though, in late game a few with full energy can basically oneshot an entire mineral line.


They also 2 shot lings now and with void ray vs armored buff I really feel like airtoss is super viable in PvZ now. And that makes me SUPER excited :D
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 09 2012 21:35 GMT
#319
On December 10 2012 06:34 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:33 freerolll wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:27 kaokentake wrote:
i feel zerg needs a new pure anti-air air unit, possibly upgraded from the mutalisk or something. 300-200 cost and make it pure anti-air . so corrupters will be strong as just a midgame light anti-air that can become broodlords later


corrupters are not allowed to be too-strong of anti-air because they turn into broodlords but its biting zerg in the ass. now 1 voidray kills 3 corrupters with that new charge. corrupters dont need a buff but zerg should get some new unit




there is this unit called Hydra! I know they ahvnt been made in 2 years and you may not remeber but they still can be made!

The 'h' key may be the least worn key on us Zerg player's keboards, custom binds notwithstanding.

They pulled the H key out to not accidentally build hydras.Time to find it now again.
Cackle™
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 09 2012 21:36 GMT
#320
I cant believe NASL is not letting bitter cast this map though TT
#TheOneTrueDong
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