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[IPL5] Day 4 - Page 191
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
Great tournament, but I'm going to sleep. | ||
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Elvin
149 Posts
Globally, Zerg players don’t have a general advantage, especially at the highest levels of play. - Blizzard Globally, Zerg players don’t have a general advantage, especially at the highest levels of play. - Blizzard Globally, Zerg players don’t have a general advantage, especially at the highest levels of play. - Blizzard User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
It sucks because Leenock and Violet are two entertaining players, but people have had enough of all these ZvZs. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:48 lichter wrote: The worst part about that awesome Gumiho vs Life game is that some people think Ghosts counter infestors effectively now :o But it does! When your opener gets countered! And he loses half his infestors for no good reason! And he doesn't protect his bases against drops! | ||
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shockaslim
United States1105 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:41 polishedturd wrote: 2 terran, 2 zerg in mlg fall top4 2 terran, 2 zerg in GSL ro4 2 terran, 2 zerg in IPL top4 no one cares about aiur  Protoss wins OSL, Protoss wins BWC, Protoss wins WCG, Protoss wins Dreamhack. Should I go further?  | ||
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aviator116
United States820 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:49 Chewbacca. wrote: I still don't see why T decides to forget that they can get 1-2 ghosts and wreck a group of infestors that are bunched together the vast majority of the time. Do you see how many infestors get hit by 1 or 2 EMPs? | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:49 Chewbacca. wrote: I still don't see why T decides to forget that they can get 1-2 ghosts and wreck a group of infestors that are bunched together the vast majority of the time. Because terran players have tried to emp infestors....It's insanely hard to do, insanely hard doesn't even begin to hard it is. It's borderline impossible if your opponent is paying attention. That's why the psionic fungal immunity change was good, you could actually use ghosts to emp infestors. | ||
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beamingrobot
United States685 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:49 Chewbacca. wrote: I still don't see why T decides to forget that they can get 1-2 ghosts and wreck a group of infestors that are bunched together the vast majority of the time. 1-2 ghosts to wreck a group of infestors? wat. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:47 Mataru wrote: Im not talking about like 12 ghosts here, 3-4 could nullify that initial wave of infestors. No. And 3-4 Ghosts = 12-16 Marines mineral-wise. His pre-Hive push got cleared, how could he afford additional tech while he first had to remax? By which time it was too late because BLs were out. Standard TvZ story. | ||
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lowercase
Canada1047 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:46 ssxsilver wrote: Violet is good. I'm not even sure there's a significant difference in skill between Violet and Polt. The problem is that composition is just impossible to beat cost-effectively w/o overexposing yourself to a big tech switch... You would think that Zerg would be vulnerable while they tech to broods, but it seemed to me that Violet's killer 15 minute brood-lord timing was just too much for Polt. He never did enough damage with his hellions, despite the massive investment. Also, let's give credit to Violet, he had some amazing infested terran spams before rushing with his units to draw away tank fire, and his compositions and fungals were always spot on. Polt should have scouted more and prepared more for this inevitable brood lord push, especially since he died to it twice before already. | ||
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NGrNecris
New Zealand855 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:49 Chewbacca. wrote: I still don't see why T decides to forget that they can get 1-2 ghosts and wreck a group of infestors that are bunched together the vast majority of the time. its actually pretty hard to emp more than a few infestors with one emp | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:50 Elvin wrote: Reminder to all QQ'ers: Globally, Zerg players don’t have a general advantage, especially at the highest levels of play. - Blizzard Globally, Zerg players don’t have a general advantage, especially at the highest levels of play. - Blizzard Globally, Zerg players don’t have a general advantage, especially at the highest levels of play. - Blizzard terran deathball too scary. DB a few months ago. Ty you can go off. | ||
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MythZero
Korea (South)102 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:47 Mataru wrote: Im not talking about like 12 ghosts here, 3-4 could nullify that initial wave of infestors. I don't see how thats impossible at that stage of the game. You know zerg is gonna be making Infestors. That's what would work in YOUR league. Violet isn't stupid enough to have his infestors EMP'd so easily.. He even had 2~3 overseers for that not to happen. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:49 Necro)Phagist( wrote: I don't count WCS... From when the player pool/groups where decided it was easy to see Toss was gonna sweep that tourny... The only two players who had a chance at stopping that was Roro and Stephano... You mean from when Toss destroyed WCS Korea and WCS Asia. To not count WCS is just silly. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:43 Qwertify wrote: Ok I am very confused. I play zerg so please don't complain about me whining IMBA, etc. But, is Violet just really good, or is Zerg just seriously OP a bit? Violet did have good engagements, but there didn't really seem like there was anything that Polt did wrong. He could have spread those tanks out better, but that wouldn't really change the outcome of the game. I also understand the upgrades were a bit different. But still, that all looked very easy. And now we have a ZvZ finals for the second day in a row. First the GSL, and now the IPL. Not long ago we had Life vs. Leenock. Well whatever. HOTS comes out soon, and the whole meta-game is going to start anew, so .. I guess no real need to worry about any imbalance starting March or so. I think that Polt actually took his third quite late and Violet took his third very early. Violet's early Roach aggression helped with both of those things. The Zerg took no harrass damage to his economy, Violet played pretty greedy to get his economy up and running. He also spread creep very aggressively giving him map vision over the central area. Once he had enough hatches and workers, he could just build attacking units. After his initial Roach push was denied, Violet always made sure to attack Polt's forces in the large open central space. On creep this was ideal conditions for a well-co-ordinated Zerg attack. None of Polt's drops did any damage at all. So Violet just powered his army up to the point where he could win the 2 decisive main battles. Effectively Violet controlled the game. | ||
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hyptonic
2155 Posts
sc2 balance team and the esports team need to start talking | ||
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aviator116
United States820 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:50 Elvin wrote: Reminder to all QQ'ers: Globally, Zerg players don’t have a general advantage, especially at the highest levels of play. - Blizzard Globally, Zerg players don’t have a general advantage, especially at the highest levels of play. - Blizzard Globally, Zerg players don’t have a general advantage, especially at the highest levels of play. - Blizzard When the fuck has anything Blizzard said been correct. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:49 LimitSEA wrote: Was it also Dwf who said Polt didn't have the economy for ghosts on Daybreak when he was on 4 bases for quite a while? I honestly can't remember. Yes it was me. Play Terran and you will understand why I am saying that. | ||
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polishedturd
United States505 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:49 Chewbacca. wrote: I still don't see why T decides to forget that they can get 1-2 ghosts and wreck a group of infestors that are bunched together the vast majority of the time. you need more than 1-2 ghosts lol, emp radius is way too small for that low of a ghost count to do much im not sure why polt didn't prepare properly for a hive timing for that game, but either way fighting a tier3 army with marine tank is not gonna be fun times | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On December 03 2012 13:50 beamingrobot wrote: 1-2 ghosts to wreck a group of infestors? wat. E M P | ||
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