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xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
November 23 2012 16:13 GMT
#881
On November 24 2012 01:11 era909 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 01:10 xN.07)MaK wrote:
How do they break the ties? Just score or Head to head -> scores?

Mapscore then head to head.


So ret can go through even after losing to the two players he's tied with. Wow...
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
November 23 2012 16:13 GMT
#882
On November 24 2012 01:10 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 00:53 Diavlo wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:44 Azarkon wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:41 Redox wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:40 Azarkon wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:38 Redox wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:37 Azarkon wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:33 Hider wrote:
Time to consider whether Stephano is still the best foreigner.


For the moment, he isn't. Based on recent results, Sen is the best foreigner, but Thorzain, Naniwa, Scarlett, Suppy, Nerchio, etc. are all candidates for the same position.

Lol wat? Because of one tournament? Saying Sen is top 5 is even debatable.


Two tournaments now. He didn't get out of the group stage in two separate tournaments.

Wtf, I was talking about Sen.
People are so Stephano obsessed, its not even funny.


Slim pickings. Not a lot of players outside of Korea are doing well in tournaments with top Koreans these days. Stephano held the position by winning LCS 2, but WCS is a far better tournament in terms of skill.


Sen beat Grubby, killer, curious and Hero in WCS
Stephano beat Axslav, BK, Crank, Ganzi and Bomber in LSC

How does that make Sen a better foreigner than Stephano...

Stephano is still the best, but just as every other player who has been traveling like crazy (Stephano went from Korea, to Paris to Texas to China to Sweden in 1 month ...) he can't really practice and gets beaten by people who do.
Rain got rolled in code A, Life lost in his group, Creator lost, Leenock lost...


Stephano failed to make it out of the group stages of the last two tournaments he attended. Sen has made it out of every group stage in the last three tournaments he's attended. Both face players of the same caliber. Stephano is in an obvious slump the way he's playing. There's no way to call him the best foreigner while he plays this way; that just embarrasses the scene.

When Stephano gets over his slump, and is back to playing the way he used to play, then I reckon overtaking Sen and the other candidates won't be an issue.


You know, that there is a difference between "most successful" and "best" foreigner?
If you are lucky with the seedings you can still reach a high tournament rank with less skill. Losing a few games doesn't magically turn you into a bronze player. Stephano was playing pretty good lately, even if he didn't make it that far.
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 23 2012 16:14 GMT
#883
On November 24 2012 01:13 xN.07)MaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 01:11 era909 wrote:
On November 24 2012 01:10 xN.07)MaK wrote:
How do they break the ties? Just score or Head to head -> scores?

Mapscore then head to head.

So ret can go through even after losing to the two players he's tied with. Wow...

The best way to do it, IMO. Your advancement shouldn't depend on who you just happen to end up tied with.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
November 23 2012 16:14 GMT
#884
If Snute wins 1 more map he's through yeah, because with that he'll have equal mapscore with thestc, whom he beat earlier.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#885
Nani going full emo
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
November 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#886
sefmkp'i <jo'nef jipåfpseij fåiepjioåeip HATE LIFE-... HATE INTERNET.... HATE EVERYONE ..... FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! awfko0åp'awfjkoäp'fawejoäp
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
November 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#887
Ret still has a chance! GoGo!
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
November 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#888
Pinball protoss on tilt mode again
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
November 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#889
On November 24 2012 01:13 Prugelhugel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 01:10 Azarkon wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:53 Diavlo wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:44 Azarkon wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:41 Redox wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:40 Azarkon wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:38 Redox wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:37 Azarkon wrote:
On November 24 2012 00:33 Hider wrote:
Time to consider whether Stephano is still the best foreigner.


For the moment, he isn't. Based on recent results, Sen is the best foreigner, but Thorzain, Naniwa, Scarlett, Suppy, Nerchio, etc. are all candidates for the same position.

Lol wat? Because of one tournament? Saying Sen is top 5 is even debatable.


Two tournaments now. He didn't get out of the group stage in two separate tournaments.

Wtf, I was talking about Sen.
People are so Stephano obsessed, its not even funny.


Slim pickings. Not a lot of players outside of Korea are doing well in tournaments with top Koreans these days. Stephano held the position by winning LCS 2, but WCS is a far better tournament in terms of skill.


Sen beat Grubby, killer, curious and Hero in WCS
Stephano beat Axslav, BK, Crank, Ganzi and Bomber in LSC

How does that make Sen a better foreigner than Stephano...

Stephano is still the best, but just as every other player who has been traveling like crazy (Stephano went from Korea, to Paris to Texas to China to Sweden in 1 month ...) he can't really practice and gets beaten by people who do.
Rain got rolled in code A, Life lost in his group, Creator lost, Leenock lost...


Stephano failed to make it out of the group stages of the last two tournaments he attended. Sen has made it out of every group stage in the last three tournaments he's attended. Both face players of the same caliber. Stephano is in an obvious slump the way he's playing. There's no way to call him the best foreigner while he plays this way; that just embarrasses the scene.

When Stephano gets over his slump, and is back to playing the way he used to play, then I reckon overtaking Sen and the other candidates won't be an issue.


You know, that there is a difference between "most successful" and "best" foreigner?
If you are lucky with the seedings you can still reach a high tournament rank with less skill. Losing a few games doesn't magically turn you into a bronze player. Stephano was playing pretty good lately, even if he didn't make it that far.


Yes, there's a difference.

Stephano is the most successful foreigner and that won't change in the foreseeable future.

Best foreigner, however, says that he's the best we've got at the moment when it comes to skill, and with the way he's playing, he's just not.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
November 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#890
I like how Naniwa always says something cute when he losses
StarCraft2
Profile Joined October 2012
160 Posts
November 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#891
tt nani
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
November 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#892
nani making it really difficult to support him.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#893
On November 24 2012 01:13 xN.07)MaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 01:11 era909 wrote:
On November 24 2012 01:10 xN.07)MaK wrote:
How do they break the ties? Just score or Head to head -> scores?

Mapscore then head to head.


So ret can go through even after losing to the two players he's tied with. Wow...


It makes perfect sense. Map score should always come first, as you won a higher percentage of games than your opponent.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
November 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#894
Naniwa really showing he is no part of an grown ups tournament.
era909
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden139 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 16:16:41
November 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#895
That was depressing.

Both Ret and Nightend needs a 2-0 win so hopefully it'll be a 2-1 game.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10138 Posts
November 23 2012 16:16 GMT
#896
On November 24 2012 01:15 TheSwedishFan wrote:
sefmkp'i <jo'nef jipåfpseij fåiepjioåeip HATE LIFE-... HATE INTERNET.... HATE EVERYONE ..... FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! awfko0åp'awfjkoäp'fawejoäp


Hi nani.
ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
November 23 2012 16:16 GMT
#897
What did he type?
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
November 23 2012 16:16 GMT
#898
On November 24 2012 01:14 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 01:13 xN.07)MaK wrote:
On November 24 2012 01:11 era909 wrote:
On November 24 2012 01:10 xN.07)MaK wrote:
How do they break the ties? Just score or Head to head -> scores?

Mapscore then head to head.

So ret can go through even after losing to the two players he's tied with. Wow...

The best way to do it, IMO. Your advancement shouldn't depend on who you just happen to end up tied with.


IMO, it should.

What it shouldn't happen is that you end up not advancing because you didn't 2-0 instead of 2-1 the weakest player in the group.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
November 23 2012 16:16 GMT
#899
Do it Ret, 2-0 and all TL players advance!
MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
November 23 2012 16:16 GMT
#900
Happy TLO made it!
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