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thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4701
Protoss suiciding units and thinking it's "good harass".. and subsequently run over by a counterattack.. That's happened more than once this tournament..
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4702
On November 18 2012 15:41 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 15:40 hayata2.0 wrote:
That "harass" was all-in. Whenever you throw like 20 warpins inside the zerg main, you kill them, or die to the eventual counter,


In a real scenario, if you trade armies in the process (lings vs +2 zealot/archon), then you don't need to finish them.

The current scenario is that Z pulls ahead because infestors make free, high DPS, high HP units.

what the fuck..he didn't trade armys at fucking all..he didn't even kill half of the lings and none of the like 25 roachs that were made...CMON PEOPLE ALEMIOW
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4703
THANK YOU SEN!! All korean protoss in top 4 would have made me go to sleep. Now I have a good reason to stay up! So glad I stayed up for that last game. Loved hearing how much the crowd got into it!
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9176 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4704
I just woke up. Which games are worth watching (I mean day 2 only)?
You're now breathing manually
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4705
[image loading]

Sen, Grubby and Rotterdam 6 years ago
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4706
On November 18 2012 15:41 xeo1 wrote:
poor hero.. so much more skilled. sens gonna get crushed next round anyway


I would not call that last match more skilled, he throw to much at Sen's main and did not trade effective.
And Sen has always been a top foreigner, just you never bothered to look does not mean he's going to get crushed right away.
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4707
The harass was fine, the problem was hero FLOATED 2000 GAS and a ton of minerals. thats 6 archons worth of resources not being used.
Doom Guy
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4708
On November 18 2012 15:42 Stanlot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 15:41 WindWolf wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:40 GTR wrote:
sen doing a jinro

What is doing a Jinro?

This:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/thumb/6/6b/JinrocomfortMC.jpg/400px-JinrocomfortMC.jpg

I need the Jesus in a booth pic
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4709
On November 18 2012 15:40 coasts wrote:
What the hell so much harass but means nothing. This is the problem with SC2. Might as well turtle cause harass just means you can get attacked and killed easily. That said I'm not saying zerg op or anything but sc2 is kinda weird/dumb?


Just because there is one player harassing another does not mean it is effective...

It seemed like an overcommitment by HerO. He put so many resources into an army inside of Sen's base, but he did very little damage to the actual economy or tech of Sen. Because he put everything into harassment, he had next to no army when Sen went for a counterattack.
Whoranzone
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4710
Better watch wow finals balance is better there !
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4711
That series wasn't even balance. Hero just played bad and did gimmicky non sense.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4712
On November 18 2012 15:43 poorcloud wrote:
Cant wait for parting to show hero the right way to play PvZ.
1 base all-in
2 base all-in
3 base all-ins.

No stupid harass or anything. Build a big as fuck army and strike as hard as you can.

LOL. This is so true. The best ways to play is to 2 base immortal soulful all in or 3 base before hive all in.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4713
What kind of idiocy am I reading in this LR?

HerO committed so much into that harassment, he had no extra gateways, then he took a fast fourth meaning even less gateways. He was low on gas due to the VR/phoenix investment, and had also invested in a templar archives and +3 upgrades. What did you think was going to happen if his harass didn't kill enough drones? Sure he killed queens, and units, but the entire time Sen stayed with his high drone count and 4 hatcheries worth of larvae, plus was instantly rebuilding lost queens, OLs, and such WHILE holding off HerO's attacks, while HerO's macro'ing at home slipped.

Please don't make yourselves look silly just because some cute harass didn't result in a win.
I love crazymoving
bsdaemon
Profile Joined July 2012
618 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4714
noooooooooooooooooo hero lost! i was really worried his lack of units at home and sen saw the weakness. sen really did a very good job holding hero's harass.
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4715
Cannot stand people qq-ing about Zerg right now. Out of 4 games, 3 Protoss make it through, and you're balance complaining that it wasn't a 100% clean sweep?

Get the fuck out.
EG<3
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4716
This taught you that you have to make every move with logic behind it. You harass because you want to achieve certain thing not harassing for the sake of harasssing.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4717
Who's the pretty Chinese hostess who speaks english?
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 06:45:03
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4718
On November 18 2012 15:43 bebe01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 15:41 WindWolf wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:40 GTR wrote:
sen doing a jinro

What is doing a Jinro?


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


haha this one never gets old. Epic night
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
evilpeoples
Profile Joined November 2012
52 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4719
Nooo HerO..... Going up to 80 probes is too much lol
Go Parting, Life, Rain, Innovation
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 18 2012 06:44 GMT
#4720
Congrats to Sen.
rip passion
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