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nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
November 18 2012 06:46 GMT
#4741
On November 18 2012 15:45 Csong wrote:
i think sen has a chance of beating parting but no chance against creator


creator barely beat vortix. i think it's safe to say sen has 'a chance'.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 18 2012 06:46 GMT
#4742
Hero's harass stopped being harass a long while ago when he continued to warp in units on the high ground to keep pressuring Sen's main

Hero needed to outright win the game when he took down Sen's spawning pool, but he couldn't and subsequently lost
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
November 18 2012 06:46 GMT
#4743
On November 18 2012 15:46 DamageControL wrote:
Ok serious question: what is the origin of this "soulful" thing?

Like enough "soul" to succeed in an all-in?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/PartinG#Trivia

It's something that Parting said about his Immortal all ins
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
November 18 2012 06:46 GMT
#4744
On November 18 2012 15:46 DamageControL wrote:
Ok serious question: what is the origin of this "soulful" thing?

Like enough "soul" to succeed in an all-in?

Parting gave an interview where he said Rain lost in MvP vs hyvaa because he doesnt put enough soul into his immortal sentry all ins while he, parting, puts so much soul into his all ins he has a 90% win rate with it
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twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
November 18 2012 06:46 GMT
#4745
Those who cry and whine about Map or Race are insulting Sen's great plays. Those of you are being jerks, give Credits where Credits are due.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 18 2012 06:46 GMT
#4746
On November 18 2012 15:44 Flonomenalz wrote:
What kind of idiocy am I reading in this LR?

HerO committed so much into that harassment, he had no extra gateways, then he took a fast fourth meaning even less gateways. He was low on gas due to the VR/phoenix investment, and had also invested in a templar archives and +3 upgrades. What did you think was going to happen if his harass didn't kill enough drones? Sure he killed queens, and units, but the entire time Sen stayed with his high drone count and 4 hatcheries worth of larvae, plus was instantly rebuilding lost queens, OLs, and such WHILE holding off HerO's attacks, while HerO's macro'ing at home slipped.

Please don't make yourselves look silly just because some cute harass didn't result in a win.

uh...wasn't hero like floating 2.3k gas during his harass in the main? The harass was just terrible...sniped queens zerglings and a hatch for like zealots archons and templars..cmon people.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4747
On November 18 2012 15:43 Integra wrote:
3 protoss, 0 Terran and 1 Zerg left in the tournament. Protoss players still QQ.


One of the reasons for this however is that it's allowed, yeah almost promoted by the TL mods. I have yet to see even a warning to even the most pathetic whining comments.
Apparently as long as the mods share the same opinion whining about something is just fine.

I mean these days life report threads are filled with terrible comments like this:

On November 18 2012 15:40 Jlei wrote:
Ladies and Gentleman.

Zerg.

WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4748
On November 18 2012 15:44 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Cannot stand people qq-ing about Zerg right now. Out of 4 games, 3 Protoss make it through, and you're balance complaining that it wasn't a 100% clean sweep?

Get the fuck out.


My thoughts. Honestly people need to give more credit to the players. I don't care how "broken" you feel the game is, give credit to the players who beat x player. Even back in 2010 when terran dominated GSL I still hated the balance whining, players should be given credit when they win not "oh he plays x race only reason he won".

Seriously ruins LR threads are those type of people who blame balance all the fucking time -_-.
When I think of something else, something will go here
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4749
On November 18 2012 15:41 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 15:40 Amui wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:39 Hall0wed wrote:
So sad that play like what Hero did is just no good at all in PvZ. Yuck. Poor game design at its finest.


Hero overcommited. Came very close to, but didn't establish a foothold in Sen's base.


maybe if he treated it like an all-in and didn't try to take a 4th, instead having a few more gateways he could have pushed it over the edge.

i agree here, hero needed way more production. 4 gates was just not enough after committing so much to stargate, upgrades, templar, warp prism, and 3+ bases

RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4750
On November 18 2012 15:33 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 15:32 cari-kira wrote:
omg again no health bars..
which people do they do these tournaments for?
casuals that dont even want to know how the game works while smacking in the face of their hardcore fans?

i am so disappointed everytime i see no hp (and energy!) bars..
you miss so many things this way..
iwonder who started this thing 1 year ago.. before that all was fine.

same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! T_____T


No, you two can jump into a bonfire. I'm a hardcore fan and I HATE health bars on.
Someone call down the Thunder?
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4751
On November 18 2012 15:46 TimENT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 15:43 poorcloud wrote:
Cant wait for parting to show hero the right way to play PvZ.
1 base all-in
2 base all-in
3 base all-ins.

No stupid harass or anything. Build a big as fuck army and strike as hard as you can.


This is exactly why SC2 is poorly designed. PvZ is the following

2 base mass by the Toss and have one decisive battle and win
3 base mass by the Toss and have one decisive battle and win
Mass turtle by Zerg and have one decisive battle and win


Precisely. I think im gonna give the rest of the games a go. Cant stand watching this dross. Games a year ago were so much more exciting.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4752
On November 18 2012 15:43 Rejoice123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 15:41 oogieogie wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:40 coasts wrote:
What the hell so much harass but means nothing. This is the problem with SC2. Might as well turtle cause harass just means you can get attacked and killed easily. That said I'm not saying zerg op or anything but sc2 is kinda weird/dumb?

tell me what that harass accomplished. It sniped a hatch for a complete army disadvantage when it was like 120 army supply vs 40, and hero got a spawning pool and a hatch out of it.


ovies, queens, zerglings, 4th hatch, spawning pool,, infestors. I think you watching the wrong game buddy.

In the abstract that seems like a lot but look at it this way:
4-8 zealots aimed at Sen's base that do no damage. 4-5 pheonixes and a void ray that kill 3 queens, 3 ovies, 1 infestor. maybe 20 zealots and at least 6-8 high templars in sen's main that kill: spawning pool, two upgrade facilities and 3 infestors.
Sen lost maybe 5-6 drones and everything else was almost wholly minerals. When he showed up at Heros base this is what hero was doing: building a 4 nexuses, building 2 immortals. Against 200/200 that he *knew* was coming because his harass forced sen to overbuild.
Hero just got greedy and too wonky.
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4753
Happy my favorite zerg and countryman won but every time HerO loses a part of me dies a little inside :'(. Way too conflicted over that series... Here's to hoping Sen can get to the finals :D WP both players!
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46629 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4754
On November 18 2012 15:41 synapse wrote:
wow all this protoss qq


It's just Hero fanboyism. I'm a Protoss player, and I'm well aware that if you play that gimicky and repeatedly warp your whole army in a Zerg's base while they macro harder than you, they're going to clean you up, counterattack, and rape you.

I have no idea why people are so surprised that Hero got steamrolled after his "chargelot archon warp-in army" failed lol. Were people really not looking at the supply counts the entire game?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Whoranzone
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4755
On November 18 2012 15:46 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 15:45 Csong wrote:
i think sen has a chance of beating parting but no chance against creator


creator barely beat vortix. i think it's safe to say sen has 'a chance'.

Just build enough spines. Problem solved.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4756
You have to be stupid as fuck to blame anything other than Hero that game. I would call that all in rather than harassing.

User was temp banned for this post.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4757
It's time, Sen. Are you ready for it?

From the void I am born into wave and particle
Supdude
Profile Joined August 2011
244 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4758
Does hero always cry after a loss?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4759
On November 18 2012 15:44 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Cannot stand people qq-ing about Zerg right now. Out of 4 games, 3 Protoss make it through, and you're balance complaining that it wasn't a 100% clean sweep?

Get the fuck out.

foreigner zergs vs korean protosses...Sen is good though
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LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
November 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#4760
On November 18 2012 15:45 Whoranzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 15:44 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Cannot stand people qq-ing about Zerg right now. Out of 4 games, 3 Protoss make it through, and you're balance complaining that it wasn't a 100% clean sweep?

Get the fuck out.

Yeah so astonishing against zergs that had accomplished jackshit.


Mm, I guess you're right. Sen's pretty bad.

wait...
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