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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 13 2012 10:28 GMT
#641
On November 13 2012 19:26 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 19:25 firehand101 wrote:
Did I just watch 20 minutes of macro and 2 engagements?

mech TvZ = PvZ


Only without the vortex. Which makes it even worse.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 10:28:18
November 13 2012 10:28 GMT
#642
On November 13 2012 19:27 Waxangel wrote:
this was dumb like most of the mvp vs life games where Mvp didn't seem to have any ideas beyond "make tanks"


Maybe he was hoping that for some unknown reason Hyun chooses Ultras?
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
November 13 2012 10:28 GMT
#643
never thought i'd say this, but watching sc2 is starting to get boring ><

probably because i'm a scrub, but i can't tell between player styles these days
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
November 13 2012 10:28 GMT
#644
Well tanks are so fuckin slow, you can really run away with them + their AI is so fucked up, that they are like the hardest unit in the game to control properly. running away with tanks is allways a painful choice to make, because you will lose several of them. Yoda just completely bodged the broodlord switch while scouting the hive timing. Dunno why that happened to him :o
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
November 13 2012 10:28 GMT
#645
On November 13 2012 19:27 Fjodorov wrote:
I think Yoda was trying to mindgame Hyun by making vikings early in the game hoping Hyun would go for ultras. Its the only explanation i can think of.

No way you can play ultra when there are walls (command centers) and ramps everywhere. i dont get it yoda.
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 13 2012 10:28 GMT
#646
On November 13 2012 19:28 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 19:26 andaylin wrote:
On November 13 2012 19:25 firehand101 wrote:
Did I just watch 20 minutes of macro and 2 engagements?

mech TvZ = PvZ


Only without the vortex. Which makes it even worse.


Also switching to Ultras against protoss is typically a bad idea whereas we saw yesterday it can work really really well.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 13 2012 10:29 GMT
#647
On November 13 2012 19:28 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 19:26 andaylin wrote:
On November 13 2012 19:25 firehand101 wrote:
Did I just watch 20 minutes of macro and 2 engagements?

mech TvZ = PvZ


Only without the vortex. Which makes it even worse.

The vortex is basically seeker missiles I guess, except, Yoda didn't try, or do a 3 base timing, SO FAIL!
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
November 13 2012 10:29 GMT
#648
Yoda doesn't make vikings because MVP probably adviced him not to. If you make vikings you lose anyways to infestor/corrupter/BL. If you make tanks, if the zerg went ultras, at least you're competitive.
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
November 13 2012 10:29 GMT
#649
I wish that burrowed units didn't provide vision, I mean you're head is stuck in the dirt, what can you really see? give them like 1 vision range. I think that would be good for creep tumors too. would make it harder to have vision of the whole map as zerg, plus need units to give vision to spread tumors. Just my opinions.
AgentLK
Profile Joined March 2012
Greece2 Posts
November 13 2012 10:29 GMT
#650
Anyone has problem with stream? Video frozen at first frame while audio playing...? :S
Peace is a lie
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 13 2012 10:29 GMT
#651
On November 13 2012 19:27 Pandain wrote:
I also think this is a good indiciation that even when Terran fucks up and deserves to lose people still talk about balance.


I think this is a good indication that people will complain about other people complaining about balance when most of the posts have pointed out it was Yoda's fault for not making starports and AA>
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 13 2012 10:30 GMT
#652
artosis solocast is pretty decent
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 13 2012 10:30 GMT
#653
On November 13 2012 19:28 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 19:26 andaylin wrote:
On November 13 2012 19:25 firehand101 wrote:
Did I just watch 20 minutes of macro and 2 engagements?

mech TvZ = PvZ


Only without the vortex. Which makes it even worse.


Well, terran has the ability to produce air units and at least counter the first BL/infestor attack. Yoda just... doesn't like vikings I guess. Protoss however has a way easier time dealing with tech switches. Although you can get screwed pretty hard by mass ling reinforcements because you'll generally be warping in stalkers.
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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
November 13 2012 10:30 GMT
#654
this insight from Artosis is blowing my fucking mind away. This is such a treat
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 13 2012 10:31 GMT
#655
On November 13 2012 19:30 opterown wrote:
artosis solocast is pretty decent


I wonder whos better solocast Artosis or Wolf?
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
November 13 2012 10:31 GMT
#656
Come on YoDa... use some Marine/Tank... :\
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
November 13 2012 10:31 GMT
#657
On November 13 2012 19:30 opterown wrote:
artosis solocast is pretty decent

nothing really surprising there
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18512 Posts
November 13 2012 10:31 GMT
#658
On November 13 2012 19:31 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 19:30 opterown wrote:
artosis solocast is pretty decent


I wonder whos better solocast Artosis or Wolf?


tasteless :p
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
November 13 2012 10:31 GMT
#659
On November 13 2012 19:29 Azzur wrote:
Yoda doesn't make vikings because MVP probably adviced him not to. If you make vikings you lose anyways to infestor/corrupter/BL. If you make tanks, if the zerg went ultras, at least you're competitive.


Taeja and Ryung beg to differ with that statement.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
November 13 2012 10:31 GMT
#660
On November 13 2012 19:29 HotShizz wrote:
I wish that burrowed units didn't provide vision, I mean you're head is stuck in the dirt, what can you really see? give them like 1 vision range. I think that would be good for creep tumors too. would make it harder to have vision of the whole map as zerg, plus need units to give vision to spread tumors. Just my opinions.


If this was the case you would always have to have units where you are spreading creep. That would be a huge nerf to creep spread speed and would make it take way more attention. Would be far too big of a nerf.
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