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TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
November 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#861
On November 12 2012 20:09 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 20:07 dainbramage wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:05 Sc2Null wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:04 sicueft wrote:
Wait, why was Ultra time reduced again? Because zergs whined that they weren't being used enough?


It didn't align with other T3 build times...I believe the previous BT was 70s..stop complaining

Going from 5 seconds less than a colossus to that of an immortal is aligning with t3 build times?


Your not factoring in chronoboost of a colossus....just stop


As he doesn't do it for Thors and Battlecruisers I guess. Terrans should just start chronoboosting their T3 units I guess...
rw_Wedge
Profile Joined October 2012
United States53 Posts
November 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#862
Hard game to watch as a terran player. Ryung turtles to get a composition that will crush Infestor/BL, but that allows Zerg to just remax on Ultras. However, if Ryung had gone earlier he wouldn't have had the Ravens to crush Curious's first army. Seems like it didn't matter what path he chose, I don't think Zerg can be beaten in the super-late game.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#863
Ryung played his best, not much more he could have done. 18 ultra being made at the same time is to much. Zerg tech switch is insane.
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
November 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#864
On November 12 2012 20:09 Blaec wrote:
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On November 12 2012 20:08 ES.Genie wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:05 Blaec wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:04 sicueft wrote:
Wait, why was Ultra time reduced again? Because zergs whined that they weren't being used enough?


Errr I put myself in the perfect postion for max ultras to beat me, obviously they are OP.

Silly Ryung killing the BL army.


Maybe he should avoid situations were Curious has all the money and larva he wants to go max ultra.



wow that's a really clever thought.

I guess all the zergs should avoid the situations when protoss can build 3 immortals and sentries too.

YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
November 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#865
On November 12 2012 20:13 Fearest wrote:
Terran should try Max Mech into Max Bio into Max Mech just like Zerg


Yeap. Youd need a big mortgage to pull that one off.
TheRooster
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden719 Posts
November 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#866
On November 12 2012 20:09 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 20:07 dainbramage wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:05 Sc2Null wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:04 sicueft wrote:
Wait, why was Ultra time reduced again? Because zergs whined that they weren't being used enough?


It didn't align with other T3 build times...I believe the previous BT was 70s..stop complaining

Going from 5 seconds less than a colossus to that of an immortal is aligning with t3 build times?


Your not factoring in chronoboost of a colossus....just stop

And you are not factoring in that you can build 10+ ultras at the time
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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
November 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#867
On November 12 2012 20:09 firehand101 wrote:
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On November 12 2012 20:07 silent_owl wrote:
Well, it was nice seeing someone beat BL infestor. Lol.

Ryung must be pretty frustrated.

he beat it the first time, not the second


Beating it once is tough enough. I won't complain about that stupidly fast remax as I believe it's an advantage a Zerg has if the Z player is left unchecked.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 11:13:45
November 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#868
On November 12 2012 20:12 imallinson wrote:
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On November 12 2012 20:11 Flonomenalz wrote:
Can't they just buff BCs?

BCs being weak isn't the problem it's getting to them that's difficult.


He did have plenty of time to get there. I do wonder how much different the game might've been had he decided to go that route.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#869
On November 12 2012 20:11 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 20:10 andaylin wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:09 Sc2Null wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:07 dainbramage wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:05 Sc2Null wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:04 sicueft wrote:
Wait, why was Ultra time reduced again? Because zergs whined that they weren't being used enough?


It didn't align with other T3 build times...I believe the previous BT was 70s..stop complaining

Going from 5 seconds less than a colossus to that of an immortal is aligning with t3 build times?


Your not factoring in chronoboost of a colossus....just stop

Sc2Null is just upset at the impending infester nerfs


Infestor nerfs? Link please? I'm also pretty sure that game was won, not because of infestors, but because of the bank curious had to remax. It is the job of the terran/toss to prevent zerg from getting to that stage.

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5848167253

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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#870
On November 12 2012 20:13 Fearest wrote:
Terran should try Max Mech into Max Bio into Max Mech just like Zerg

don't forget the skyterran switch too
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609_uu
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland8 Posts
November 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#871
So, how anyone can defend what just happened? I honestly want to know how zerg players think about that kind of games.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
November 12 2012 11:14 GMT
#872
On November 12 2012 20:09 gengka wrote:
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On November 12 2012 20:06 poorcloud wrote:
dam why does terrans never ever build cattlebruisers for the uber late game? Only thing that counters both ultras and broodlords imo


we are terrans. we are not designed to be able to do quick tech switch and instant remax. Plus zergs has infestors as their backbones which can compliment watever tech switch they wanna do


That is just really the crux of the problem, these things are just too versatile. Fungal against viking-based armies, infested terrans against tank-based armies, and if it ever gets to BCs they can neural them. Terran could probably deal with the tech switch between BL and Ultras much better if it wasn't for the infestors.

But this is just general speaking and not necessarily the problem in that specific game. If Zerg has enough bank to build 18 Ultras at once, than he probably just had too much time and got away with too much. It was really well played by Curious I think, two excellent players faced off there.
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 12 2012 11:14 GMT
#873
On November 12 2012 20:09 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 20:08 ES.Genie wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:05 Blaec wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:04 sicueft wrote:
Wait, why was Ultra time reduced again? Because zergs whined that they weren't being used enough?


Errr I put myself in the perfect postion for max ultras to beat me, obviously they are OP.

Silly Ryung killing the BL army.


Maybe he should avoid situations were Curious has all the money and larva he wants to go max ultra.


Thats not really feasable. What Ryung needed was for his Ravens not to die really but going from the amount of max energy ravens he had down to 2 really hurt him. If he had attacked without that many Ravens he would have lost the fight but if they were still alive then maybe he is able to hold even though the ultra switch did sooooooo much damage.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 12 2012 11:14 GMT
#874
On November 12 2012 20:12 HaXXspetten wrote:
anyone mind informing exactly how DRG lost?

he played horribly
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 12 2012 11:14 GMT
#875
On November 12 2012 20:13 YyapSsap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 20:13 Fearest wrote:
Terran should try Max Mech into Max Bio into Max Mech just like Zerg


Yeap. Youd need a big mortgage to pull that one off.

Give me 6 queens and maybe.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
November 12 2012 11:14 GMT
#876
On November 12 2012 20:13 THM wrote:
Wow, so Ryung played amazingly in this whole series, specifically in Game 3 with the awesome positioning and micro to completely crush the BL/infestor army. Aaand he loses anyway.

Can't say I'm impressed with SC2 right now.


wtf man. He made a gajilion mistakes.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 11:19:06
November 12 2012 11:14 GMT
#877
I think Ryung could have done better if:

1. He didn't land and sac most of his Vikings after killing of the BLs.
2. Defended against the Ultra switch better. Maybe retreat behind some kind of loose sim-city that would fuck with the Ultras' pathing AI.

And I do realize that he had a sim city of facts on one side, but i wish he had another sim city on the other side.
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Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
November 12 2012 11:14 GMT
#878
On November 12 2012 20:11 .kv wrote:
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On November 12 2012 20:10 Aserrin wrote:
The game as it is has become simply unplayable.



pvt and tvp is playable



at least until the midgame, but yet again, the game is so well balanced around the mid game, i feel like all uber t3 units bring more dissapointment to viewers
Gesarjack
Profile Joined June 2012
Switzerland117 Posts
November 12 2012 11:14 GMT
#879
On November 12 2012 20:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I think the way zerg is supposed to be beaten is by having a viking-only army. One half is microed PERFECTLY against BL/infestor and the other half is hunting overlords in zerg's base before zerg can remax on anything. I think that's how it works


You could also lift buildings and camp the hatcheries so that overlords can't spawn, forcing a tie.
You've got to have trolls under bridges. Otherwise, what's it all about?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 12 2012 11:14 GMT
#880
On November 12 2012 20:11 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 20:10 andaylin wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:09 Sc2Null wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:07 dainbramage wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:05 Sc2Null wrote:
On November 12 2012 20:04 sicueft wrote:
Wait, why was Ultra time reduced again? Because zergs whined that they weren't being used enough?


It didn't align with other T3 build times...I believe the previous BT was 70s..stop complaining

Going from 5 seconds less than a colossus to that of an immortal is aligning with t3 build times?


Your not factoring in chronoboost of a colossus....just stop

Sc2Null is just upset at the impending infester nerfs


Infestor nerfs? Link please? I'm also pretty sure that game was won, not because of infestors, but because of the bank curious had to remax. It is the job of the terran/toss to prevent zerg from getting to that stage.


What? The infestors kind of make it hard for the terran/toss to do that effectively. They shut down drops and pushes pretty effectively.
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