On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.
I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.
I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.
Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.
Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
We'll miss you...
Still alive :p
On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.
I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.
Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.
Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.
Life's ZvT to me is far more impressive than DRG's ever was.
I have no idea who Mkp is going to pick. He isn't good enough TvT to pick any of the KESPA pro terrans, they all mastered TvT to quickly. Then the non KESPA pro terrans are better than him at TvT. That means he has to pick Zergs, and well its a coin toss with Mkp then as to which Mkp turns up xD the one who uses his mechanics and solid Terran play to win, or the Mkp that tries to 2rax every game and loses.
On November 09 2012 06:19 Pandemona wrote: I have no idea who Mkp is going to pick. He isn't good enough TvT to pick any of the KESPA pro terrans, they all mastered TvT to quickly. Then the non KESPA pro terrans are better than him at TvT. That means he has to pick Zergs, and well its a coin toss with Mkp then as to which Mkp turns up xD the one who uses his mechanics and solid Terran play to win, or the Mkp that tries to 2rax every game and loses.
Will be interesting
MKP has had the best TvT in 2012 as far as I know. Crushed TaeJa and almost every terran kinda easily. Even beat MMA using the builds he uses on ladder and streams. KesPA terrans are far from impressive atm but I might be wrong :o.
On November 09 2012 06:19 Pandemona wrote: I have no idea who Mkp is going to pick. He isn't good enough TvT to pick any of the KESPA pro terrans, they all mastered TvT to quickly. Then the non KESPA pro terrans are better than him at TvT. That means he has to pick Zergs, and well its a coin toss with Mkp then as to which Mkp turns up xD the one who uses his mechanics and solid Terran play to win, or the Mkp that tries to 2rax every game and loses.
Will be interesting
lol, mkp is about 80% in tvt this year, i think the only person who has a positive headtohead against him is mvp. mkp is one of the best tvters atm
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
We'll miss you...
Still alive :p
On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.
I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.
Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.
Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.
Life's ZvT to me is far more impressive than DRG's ever was.
Of course it will seem* impressive given the metagame. Stephano had an incredible ZvT before the first infestor buff, beating terrans on steppes of war with in-battle burrowed banelings (far before any GSL zerg did it on TV) and amazing engagements. TvZ used to be so cool to watch as a match-up .
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
We'll miss you...
Still alive :p
On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.
I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.
Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.
Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.
You're severely underestimating top foreign zergs, they are the strongest race out of Korea and the best of the best can compete with Koreans. Also, I wouldn't include Vortix in your list, though his ZvT is his personal best MU, he can't take out every terran yet.
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
We'll miss you...
Still alive :p
On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.
I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.
Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.
Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.
You're severely underestimating top foreign zergs, they are the strongest race out of Korea and the best of the best can compete with Koreans. Also, I wouldn't include Vortix in your list, though his ZvT is his personal best MU, he can't take out every terran yet.
That's what I said, (that they can compete with koreans). I don't really understand your point. Pretty sure VortiX can, he is better than Nerchio in the MU.
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
We'll miss you...
Still alive :p
On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.
I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.
Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.
Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.
Life's ZvT to me is far more impressive than DRG's ever was.
Of course it will be impressive given the metagame. Stephano had an incredible ZvT before the first infestor buff, beating terrans on steppes of war with in-battle burrowed banelings (far before any GSL zerg did it on TV) and amazing engagements. TvZ used to be so cool to watch as a match-up .
Thanks for the backhanded compliment.
Back in the day ZvT was entertaining from a spectator perspective, absolute butt from a strategic perspective. Now that zergs actually feel confident enough in the matchup to experiment, we're seeing cool builds start to pop out.
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
We'll miss you...
Still alive :p
On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.
I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.
Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.
Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.
Life's ZvT to me is far more impressive than DRG's ever was.
Of course it will be impressive given the metagame. Stephano had an incredible ZvT before the first infestor buff, beating terrans on steppes of war with in-battle burrowed banelings (far before any GSL zerg did it on TV) and amazing engagements. TvZ used to be so cool to watch as a match-up .
Thanks for the backhanded compliment.
Back in the day ZvT was entertaining from a spectator perspective, absolute butt from a strategic perspective. Now that zergs actually feel confident enough in the matchup to experiment, we're seeing cool builds start to pop out.
Jjakji vs Leenock is probably still the best TvZ series and it sure wasn't butt from a strategic perspective. Now there isn't any more strategy, zergs don't practice the match-up because they don't need to and terrans (see Life and Ryung interviews) don't practice it because it won't help.
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
We'll miss you...
Still alive :p
On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote: MKP will win ofc
ro16 mkp > leenock mkp > symbol
ro8 mkp > drg
ro4 mkp > hyun
finals mkp > life
I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.
They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.
I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.
Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.
Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.
Life's ZvT to me is far more impressive than DRG's ever was.
Of course it will be impressive given the metagame. Stephano had an incredible ZvT before the first infestor buff, beating terrans on steppes of war with in-battle burrowed banelings (far before any GSL zerg did it on TV) and amazing engagements. TvZ used to be so cool to watch as a match-up .
Thanks for the backhanded compliment.
Back in the day ZvT was entertaining from a spectator perspective, absolute butt from a strategic perspective. Now that zergs actually feel confident enough in the matchup to experiment, we're seeing cool builds start to pop out.
Jjakji vs Leenock is probably still the best TvZ series and it sure wasn't butt from a strategic perspective. Now there isn't any more strategy, zergs don't practice the match-up because they don't need to and terrans (see Life and Ryung interviews) don't practice it because it won't help.
Tactical perspective and it was helped by the fact that nobody knew Jjakji was amazing at the matchup. .
i think parting will pick soulkey or symbol since they seem to have the weakest zvps iirc. Creator will probably be the last to be picked since a lot of players don't want to have to practice vs all 3 races, while creator will probably never have to practice for more than two matchups, plus he's the best toss, at least according to elo.
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