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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 21:06:46
November 08 2012 21:05 GMT
#81
On November 09 2012 06:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.


We'll miss you...


Still alive :p

On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.

They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.


I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
November 08 2012 21:13 GMT
#82
On November 09 2012 06:05 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 06:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.


We'll miss you...


Still alive :p

Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.

They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.


I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.

Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.

Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.
WriterMaru
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 08 2012 21:15 GMT
#83
On November 09 2012 06:13 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 06:05 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.


We'll miss you...


Still alive :p

On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.

They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.


I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.

Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.

Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.


Life's ZvT to me is far more impressive than DRG's ever was.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 08 2012 21:15 GMT
#84
On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.

They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.

yeaah no
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 08 2012 21:19 GMT
#85
I have no idea who Mkp is going to pick. He isn't good enough TvT to pick any of the KESPA pro terrans, they all mastered TvT to quickly. Then the non KESPA pro terrans are better than him at TvT. That means he has to pick Zergs, and well its a coin toss with Mkp then as to which Mkp turns up xD the one who uses his mechanics and solid Terran play to win, or the Mkp that tries to 2rax every game and loses.

Will be interesting
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
November 08 2012 21:23 GMT
#86
On November 09 2012 06:19 Pandemona wrote:
I have no idea who Mkp is going to pick. He isn't good enough TvT to pick any of the KESPA pro terrans, they all mastered TvT to quickly. Then the non KESPA pro terrans are better than him at TvT. That means he has to pick Zergs, and well its a coin toss with Mkp then as to which Mkp turns up xD the one who uses his mechanics and solid Terran play to win, or the Mkp that tries to 2rax every game and loses.

Will be interesting

MKP has had the best TvT in 2012 as far as I know.
Crushed TaeJa and almost every terran kinda easily.
Even beat MMA using the builds he uses on ladder and streams.
KesPA terrans are far from impressive atm but I might be wrong :o.
WriterMaru
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 08 2012 21:23 GMT
#87
On November 09 2012 06:19 Pandemona wrote:
I have no idea who Mkp is going to pick. He isn't good enough TvT to pick any of the KESPA pro terrans, they all mastered TvT to quickly. Then the non KESPA pro terrans are better than him at TvT. That means he has to pick Zergs, and well its a coin toss with Mkp then as to which Mkp turns up xD the one who uses his mechanics and solid Terran play to win, or the Mkp that tries to 2rax every game and loses.

Will be interesting

lol, mkp is about 80% in tvt this year, i think the only person who has a positive headtohead against him is mvp.
mkp is one of the best tvters atm
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 21:42:46
November 08 2012 21:29 GMT
#88
On November 09 2012 06:15 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 06:13 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:05 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.


We'll miss you...


Still alive :p

On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.

They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.


I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.

Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.

Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.


Life's ZvT to me is far more impressive than DRG's ever was.

Of course it will seem* impressive given the metagame.
Stephano had an incredible ZvT before the first infestor buff, beating terrans on steppes of war with in-battle burrowed banelings (far before any GSL zerg did it on TV) and amazing engagements.
TvZ used to be so cool to watch as a match-up .
WriterMaru
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
November 08 2012 21:29 GMT
#89
On November 09 2012 06:13 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 06:05 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.


We'll miss you...


Still alive :p

On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.

They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.


I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.

Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.

Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.


You're severely underestimating top foreign zergs, they are the strongest race out of Korea and the best of the best can compete with Koreans. Also, I wouldn't include Vortix in your list, though his ZvT is his personal best MU, he can't take out every terran yet.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
November 08 2012 21:32 GMT
#90
On November 09 2012 06:29 MetalPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 06:13 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:05 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.


We'll miss you...


Still alive :p

On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.

They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.


I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.

Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.

Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.


You're severely underestimating top foreign zergs, they are the strongest race out of Korea and the best of the best can compete with Koreans. Also, I wouldn't include Vortix in your list, though his ZvT is his personal best MU, he can't take out every terran yet.

That's what I said, (that they can compete with koreans). I don't really understand your point.
Pretty sure VortiX can, he is better than Nerchio in the MU.
WriterMaru
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 08 2012 21:34 GMT
#91
So many terrans and zerg. If this were late 2011-early 2012 this would be the best Ro16 ever.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 21:41:37
November 08 2012 21:39 GMT
#92
On November 09 2012 06:29 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 06:15 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:13 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:05 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.


We'll miss you...


Still alive :p

On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.

They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.


I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.

Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.

Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.


Life's ZvT to me is far more impressive than DRG's ever was.

Of course it will be impressive given the metagame.
Stephano had an incredible ZvT before the first infestor buff, beating terrans on steppes of war with in-battle burrowed banelings (far before any GSL zerg did it on TV) and amazing engagements.
TvZ used to be so cool to watch as a match-up .


Thanks for the backhanded compliment.

Back in the day ZvT was entertaining from a spectator perspective, absolute butt from a strategic perspective. Now that zergs actually feel confident enough in the matchup to experiment, we're seeing cool builds start to pop out.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 21:45:45
November 08 2012 21:44 GMT
#93
On November 09 2012 06:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 06:29 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:15 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:13 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:05 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.


We'll miss you...


Still alive :p

On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.

They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.


I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.

Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.

Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.


Life's ZvT to me is far more impressive than DRG's ever was.

Of course it will be impressive given the metagame.
Stephano had an incredible ZvT before the first infestor buff, beating terrans on steppes of war with in-battle burrowed banelings (far before any GSL zerg did it on TV) and amazing engagements.
TvZ used to be so cool to watch as a match-up .


Thanks for the backhanded compliment.

Back in the day ZvT was entertaining from a spectator perspective, absolute butt from a strategic perspective. Now that zergs actually feel confident enough in the matchup to experiment, we're seeing cool builds start to pop out.

Jjakji vs Leenock is probably still the best TvZ series and it sure wasn't butt from a strategic perspective.
Now there isn't any more strategy, zergs don't practice the match-up because they don't need to and terrans (see Life and Ryung interviews) don't practice it because it won't help.
WriterMaru
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 21:56:02
November 08 2012 21:50 GMT
#94
On November 09 2012 06:44 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 06:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:29 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:15 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:13 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:05 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 06:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.


We'll miss you...


Still alive :p

On November 09 2012 06:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 09 2012 05:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:56 opterown wrote:
MKP will win ofc

ro16
mkp > leenock
mkp > symbol

ro8
mkp > drg

ro4
mkp > hyun

finals
mkp > life


I think the odds of MKP taking out five top tier Zergs with excellent ZvT is just as likely as the chances of a meteor striking me right now.

They don't have excellent ZvT. DRG had in his prime days but meh.


I think it is pretty safe to say that Leenock, Symbol, HyuN and Life all have some good ZvT, I mean, those five are the most likely contenders for best Zergs currently, and they can take out any Terran.

Even foreign zergs such as VortiX, Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano of course can take out any terran. Their ZvT isn't that impressive, DRG's play was more impressive back in the days, but it's not those zergs fault if their race got buffed changing the metagame for less impressive games, I guess.

Oh and this bracket seems odd, Creator will crush them before MKP has to :D.


Life's ZvT to me is far more impressive than DRG's ever was.

Of course it will be impressive given the metagame.
Stephano had an incredible ZvT before the first infestor buff, beating terrans on steppes of war with in-battle burrowed banelings (far before any GSL zerg did it on TV) and amazing engagements.
TvZ used to be so cool to watch as a match-up .


Thanks for the backhanded compliment.

Back in the day ZvT was entertaining from a spectator perspective, absolute butt from a strategic perspective. Now that zergs actually feel confident enough in the matchup to experiment, we're seeing cool builds start to pop out.

Jjakji vs Leenock is probably still the best TvZ series and it sure wasn't butt from a strategic perspective.
Now there isn't any more strategy, zergs don't practice the match-up because they don't need to and terrans (see Life and Ryung interviews) don't practice it because it won't help.


Tactical perspective and it was helped by the fact that nobody knew Jjakji was amazing at the matchup. .
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
November 08 2012 22:10 GMT
#95
i wonder how embarrased roro is being the only zerg that didn't make it out of ro32
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 22:12:55
November 08 2012 22:11 GMT
#96
A pretty good first round for Startale. I wonder if Parting will pick Bogus to get revenge for Squirtle not advancing.
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Rui.S
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada92 Posts
November 08 2012 22:18 GMT
#97
i think parting will pick soulkey or symbol since they seem to have the weakest zvps iirc. Creator will probably be the last to be picked since a lot of players don't want to have to practice vs all 3 races, while creator will probably never have to practice for more than two matchups, plus he's the best toss, at least according to elo.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
November 08 2012 22:40 GMT
#98
On November 08 2012 22:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 22:18 opterown wrote:
DRG -> terran
Life -> terran
PartinG -> zerg?
MarineKing -> terran

Parting will pick soulkey for the pun

Not enough recognition for this :D
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 08 2012 22:47 GMT
#99
DRG - Bogus - Sniper - Polt
Life - YoDa - HyuN- Curious
PartinG - Soulkey - Ryung - Leenock
Marineking - Hack - Symbol - Creator

If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
November 08 2012 22:51 GMT
#100
DRG should pick Ryung i think.

DRG used to be have the best ZvZ, hopefully he can play up to that level this season.
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