• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:47
CEST 22:47
KST 05:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)75Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4) SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup Back to SC2 after 14 years - Protoss CTRL groups?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released Bot on ladder 20-year-old Valorant player starting StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy returning?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6163 users

MLG Dallas [Day 3] - Page 429

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 427 428 429 430 431 506 Next
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
November 04 2012 23:30 GMT
#8561
life defending with so little he is actually way ahead on drones.
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
November 04 2012 23:30 GMT
#8562
On November 05 2012 08:27 Bippzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:25 xmungam wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:21 Bippzy wrote:
yeah leenock got this.

Thisll be the second time he's won a championship and the third time hes won an MLG while being my favorite zerg in GSL.

So yeah.leenock. The best kid to be a fan of.

i'm actually so jealous of you! found a good zerg to be a fan of, life is winning me over though!! ^_^

haha i was actually a hipster of leenock. I watched all his games in GSL the season before his finals and then watched providence and was like helllll yeahhhhh and then watched gsl vs jjakji and was like hell yeahhhh and then jjakji went superterran and i was like helllll noooo


Yup he's been my favorite player for like 14 months now... he had a "sort of" rough time for this summer or whenever when he didn't show up in many events but he's dominating again and I love it. He's the player with the most innovation and flexibility in builds imo. Most exciting to watch too, and so young. Actually the two players battling are my overlords in every sense of the word. My absolute favorites in a long list.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
November 04 2012 23:30 GMT
#8563
the two young zergs take the final? Interesting...must say I gotta find some way to counter infestor broodlord myself :x
I'm terranfying
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
November 04 2012 23:31 GMT
#8564
On November 05 2012 08:27 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:23 monkybone wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:20 Grumbels wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:15 Maloreon wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:10 Grumbels wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:07 StarStruck wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:06 Cubeface wrote:
We are watching children commanders fight it out. 15 year old vs 17 year old. Haha


15-17 is prime time for playing RTS. I don't get why you guys are making a big deal out of their ages.

Yeah, when chess players can be grandmaster at age 15, so can SC2 players win the GSL at age 15.


I'm a lifelong chess player and high rated (follow all the top tournaments and research on the subject of player peaks). Its been proven again and again that the peak is somewhere between 20's to 40's with a majority peaking around 30 and some outliers nothing too specific. SC2 is much different though its a demanding game physically (high APM's) so comparisons are rough.

Edit not disagreeing or anything just trying to add to the conversation. Chess =/= SC2. But the comparisons are interesting. Still, its funny how the best players really are this young though I wonder if this trend will continue as esports grows.

Best players are young because SC2 just requires execution. Strategy is important but can just be copied, which is not the case in chess. Imagine playing chess purely by memorizing your favorite openings, any competent player could beat you by going outside your comfort zone.

If SC2 is still relevant in 10 years, then it will be the case that any new player might need around 3 years of experience to be top of the world, whereas currently it's like 1 year.




Physically, a person in their early 20's has more potential than a 15 year old. It's just that a very young person learns very quickly, and usually can practice a ton, and therefore quickly rises to the top. But take a mediocre 15 year old sc2 pro and have him practice diligently until he's 20. Then you'll have an sc2 beast.



Ever since I followed RTS games it's always been the younger guys. Like I said before, 15-17 is the perfect age to be hitting your stride.

It applied to every RTS I ever played.

What I find more impressive is players who have only been playing for a very short-time and they excel right away. Things like BaBy getting picked up at the age of 12:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=132831

I think the only reason you see more of them at this age doing well is because they have literally nothing to think about except starcraft, they still live with mom and dad, they don't need to work, high school is a joke... so yeah they can just focus on starcraft
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
November 04 2012 23:31 GMT
#8565
On November 05 2012 08:30 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:27 Bippzy wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:25 xmungam wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:21 Bippzy wrote:
yeah leenock got this.

Thisll be the second time he's won a championship and the third time hes won an MLG while being my favorite zerg in GSL.

So yeah.leenock. The best kid to be a fan of.

i'm actually so jealous of you! found a good zerg to be a fan of, life is winning me over though!! ^_^

haha i was actually a hipster of leenock. I watched all his games in GSL the season before his finals and then watched providence and was like helllll yeahhhhh and then watched gsl vs jjakji and was like hell yeahhhh and then jjakji went superterran and i was like helllll noooo


Yup he's been my favorite player for like 14 months now... he had a "sort of" rough time for this summer or whenever when he didn't show up in many events but he's dominating again and I love it. He's the player with the most innovation and flexibility in builds imo. Most exciting to watch too, and so young. Actually the two players battling are my overlords in every sense of the word. My absolute favorites in a long list.


Pff calling yourself hipster. I've been into Leenock since GSL open season 2 vs Clide.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#8566
On November 05 2012 08:28 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:23 StarStruck wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:21 Maloreon wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:21 StarStruck wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:19 Maloreon wrote:
I have always loved Leenock and expect him to win... I wonder if Life's head will be in the clouds though having just killed god, and his hero.... he's probably just so happy to have knocked him out of the tournament and established himself as a bonjwa....


you still be going?

Different games bud and drop the bonjwa talk.

-_-


lol its a joke, you mad? People need to chill out.


Like the other guy I just addressed maybe make it more obvious because I've seen a lot of boneheaded comments especially coming from your direction but whatever floats your boat.


I'll try to make my humor more obvious for people without any sense of humor. I try sometimes, but its hard to help out people who won't help themselves (read my other posts I'm generally joke posting unless I'm hushing insane fanboys of all kinds).


That's funny, considering I do stand-up.

Apparently there are a few other guys who don't buy into your humor as well. Maybe you should re-think your strategy. Either case it looks like you and I will bunt heads quite a lot.

GL trying to hush fanboys because that simply doesn't work.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#8567
Lucky Leenock hatchery.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#8568
whoa what just happend
Notfragile
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece713 Posts
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#8569
DAT APM
"The art of war is of vital importance to the state" || MVP.Keen fan since the day he stole my heart with a double 2rax. http://i.imgur.com/A82cl.gif
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#8570
On November 05 2012 08:31 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:30 Maloreon wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:27 Bippzy wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:25 xmungam wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:21 Bippzy wrote:
yeah leenock got this.

Thisll be the second time he's won a championship and the third time hes won an MLG while being my favorite zerg in GSL.

So yeah.leenock. The best kid to be a fan of.

i'm actually so jealous of you! found a good zerg to be a fan of, life is winning me over though!! ^_^

haha i was actually a hipster of leenock. I watched all his games in GSL the season before his finals and then watched providence and was like helllll yeahhhhh and then watched gsl vs jjakji and was like hell yeahhhh and then jjakji went superterran and i was like helllll noooo


Yup he's been my favorite player for like 14 months now... he had a "sort of" rough time for this summer or whenever when he didn't show up in many events but he's dominating again and I love it. He's the player with the most innovation and flexibility in builds imo. Most exciting to watch too, and so young. Actually the two players battling are my overlords in every sense of the word. My absolute favorites in a long list.


Pff calling yourself hipster. I've been into Leenock since GSL open season 2 vs Clide.


I didn't play or watch back then so I can't out-hipster you. I liked him from the first time I saw him though, maybe longer than 14 months, time gets away from me. Its probably been 1.5+ years now.. jesus.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 23:33:07
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#8571
first person play is fucking awesome. we need that back.

Flash's POV was pure sex.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#8572
Leenock's pov! He's pretty quick. ^^
Long live the King of Wings
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#8573
FPVOD !?!?!?! really really cool
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
eleaf
Profile Joined September 2011
526 Posts
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#8574
man FPV, so great!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#8575
suddenly first person view?

if they have it set up to stream the player PC's why the hell haven't we had this feature on a separate stream like previous MLG's?
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
November 04 2012 23:33 GMT
#8576
Omg FPOV. :O
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
November 04 2012 23:33 GMT
#8577
Is Life not good with micro? I haven't seen him play too much before but it seems he makes micro mistakes a lot.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 04 2012 23:33 GMT
#8578
On November 05 2012 08:31 ROOTFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:27 StarStruck wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:23 monkybone wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:20 Grumbels wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:15 Maloreon wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:10 Grumbels wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:07 StarStruck wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:06 Cubeface wrote:
We are watching children commanders fight it out. 15 year old vs 17 year old. Haha


15-17 is prime time for playing RTS. I don't get why you guys are making a big deal out of their ages.

Yeah, when chess players can be grandmaster at age 15, so can SC2 players win the GSL at age 15.


I'm a lifelong chess player and high rated (follow all the top tournaments and research on the subject of player peaks). Its been proven again and again that the peak is somewhere between 20's to 40's with a majority peaking around 30 and some outliers nothing too specific. SC2 is much different though its a demanding game physically (high APM's) so comparisons are rough.

Edit not disagreeing or anything just trying to add to the conversation. Chess =/= SC2. But the comparisons are interesting. Still, its funny how the best players really are this young though I wonder if this trend will continue as esports grows.

Best players are young because SC2 just requires execution. Strategy is important but can just be copied, which is not the case in chess. Imagine playing chess purely by memorizing your favorite openings, any competent player could beat you by going outside your comfort zone.

If SC2 is still relevant in 10 years, then it will be the case that any new player might need around 3 years of experience to be top of the world, whereas currently it's like 1 year.




Physically, a person in their early 20's has more potential than a 15 year old. It's just that a very young person learns very quickly, and usually can practice a ton, and therefore quickly rises to the top. But take a mediocre 15 year old sc2 pro and have him practice diligently until he's 20. Then you'll have an sc2 beast.



Ever since I followed RTS games it's always been the younger guys. Like I said before, 15-17 is the perfect age to be hitting your stride.

It applied to every RTS I ever played.

What I find more impressive is players who have only been playing for a very short-time and they excel right away. Things like BaBy getting picked up at the age of 12:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=132831

I think the only reason you see more of them at this age doing well is because they have literally nothing to think about except starcraft, they still live with mom and dad, they don't need to work, high school is a joke... so yeah they can just focus on starcraft


Why of course bud. You and I both know the factors in play.
SyDe
Profile Joined January 2011
France355 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 23:33:26
November 04 2012 23:33 GMT
#8579
need more FPOV!
Life :(
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 04 2012 23:33 GMT
#8580
i just got a heart attack when they showed the mlg logo thinking the stream died
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Prev 1 427 428 429 430 431 506 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 495
ProTech169
Railgan 77
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 1465
Trap 28
Bale 16
Dota 2
420jenkins536
Counter-Strike
fl0m4322
Fnx 630
minikerr2
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby4418
Liquid`Hasu630
Other Games
summit1g4920
Liquid`RaSZi1780
FrodaN817
B2W.Neo488
XaKoH 278
ToD241
C9.Mang0114
RotterdaM97
QueenE65
JuggernautJason49
Mew2King32
PPMD22
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV235
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream16
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21197
Other Games
• Shiphtur1076
• imaqtpie840
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
3h 13m
Patches Events
19h 13m
The PondCast
1d 13h
INu's Battles
1d 14h
Percival vs SHIN
Zoun vs herO
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
OSC
3 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.