On November 05 2012 08:21 Bippzy wrote: yeah leenock got this.
Thisll be the second time he's won a championship and the third time hes won an MLG while being my favorite zerg in GSL.
So yeah.leenock. The best kid to be a fan of.
i'm actually so jealous of you! found a good zerg to be a fan of, life is winning me over though!! ^_^
haha i was actually a hipster of leenock. I watched all his games in GSL the season before his finals and then watched providence and was like helllll yeahhhhh and then watched gsl vs jjakji and was like hell yeahhhh and then jjakji went superterran and i was like helllll noooo
Yup he's been my favorite player for like 14 months now... he had a "sort of" rough time for this summer or whenever when he didn't show up in many events but he's dominating again and I love it. He's the player with the most innovation and flexibility in builds imo. Most exciting to watch too, and so young. Actually the two players battling are my overlords in every sense of the word. My absolute favorites in a long list.
On November 05 2012 08:06 Cubeface wrote: We are watching children commanders fight it out. 15 year old vs 17 year old. Haha
15-17 is prime time for playing RTS. I don't get why you guys are making a big deal out of their ages.
Yeah, when chess players can be grandmaster at age 15, so can SC2 players win the GSL at age 15.
I'm a lifelong chess player and high rated (follow all the top tournaments and research on the subject of player peaks). Its been proven again and again that the peak is somewhere between 20's to 40's with a majority peaking around 30 and some outliers nothing too specific. SC2 is much different though its a demanding game physically (high APM's) so comparisons are rough.
Edit not disagreeing or anything just trying to add to the conversation. Chess =/= SC2. But the comparisons are interesting. Still, its funny how the best players really are this young though I wonder if this trend will continue as esports grows.
Best players are young because SC2 just requires execution. Strategy is important but can just be copied, which is not the case in chess. Imagine playing chess purely by memorizing your favorite openings, any competent player could beat you by going outside your comfort zone.
If SC2 is still relevant in 10 years, then it will be the case that any new player might need around 3 years of experience to be top of the world, whereas currently it's like 1 year.
Physically, a person in their early 20's has more potential than a 15 year old. It's just that a very young person learns very quickly, and usually can practice a ton, and therefore quickly rises to the top. But take a mediocre 15 year old sc2 pro and have him practice diligently until he's 20. Then you'll have an sc2 beast.
Ever since I followed RTS games it's always been the younger guys. Like I said before, 15-17 is the perfect age to be hitting your stride.
It applied to every RTS I ever played.
What I find more impressive is players who have only been playing for a very short-time and they excel right away. Things like BaBy getting picked up at the age of 12:
I think the only reason you see more of them at this age doing well is because they have literally nothing to think about except starcraft, they still live with mom and dad, they don't need to work, high school is a joke... so yeah they can just focus on starcraft
On November 05 2012 08:21 Bippzy wrote: yeah leenock got this.
Thisll be the second time he's won a championship and the third time hes won an MLG while being my favorite zerg in GSL.
So yeah.leenock. The best kid to be a fan of.
i'm actually so jealous of you! found a good zerg to be a fan of, life is winning me over though!! ^_^
haha i was actually a hipster of leenock. I watched all his games in GSL the season before his finals and then watched providence and was like helllll yeahhhhh and then watched gsl vs jjakji and was like hell yeahhhh and then jjakji went superterran and i was like helllll noooo
Yup he's been my favorite player for like 14 months now... he had a "sort of" rough time for this summer or whenever when he didn't show up in many events but he's dominating again and I love it. He's the player with the most innovation and flexibility in builds imo. Most exciting to watch too, and so young. Actually the two players battling are my overlords in every sense of the word. My absolute favorites in a long list.
Pff calling yourself hipster. I've been into Leenock since GSL open season 2 vs Clide.
On November 05 2012 08:19 Maloreon wrote: I have always loved Leenock and expect him to win... I wonder if Life's head will be in the clouds though having just killed god, and his hero.... he's probably just so happy to have knocked him out of the tournament and established himself as a bonjwa....
you still be going?
Different games bud and drop the bonjwa talk.
-_-
lol its a joke, you mad? People need to chill out.
Like the other guy I just addressed maybe make it more obvious because I've seen a lot of boneheaded comments especially coming from your direction but whatever floats your boat.
I'll try to make my humor more obvious for people without any sense of humor. I try sometimes, but its hard to help out people who won't help themselves (read my other posts I'm generally joke posting unless I'm hushing insane fanboys of all kinds).
That's funny, considering I do stand-up.
Apparently there are a few other guys who don't buy into your humor as well. Maybe you should re-think your strategy. Either case it looks like you and I will bunt heads quite a lot.
GL trying to hush fanboys because that simply doesn't work.
On November 05 2012 08:21 Bippzy wrote: yeah leenock got this.
Thisll be the second time he's won a championship and the third time hes won an MLG while being my favorite zerg in GSL.
So yeah.leenock. The best kid to be a fan of.
i'm actually so jealous of you! found a good zerg to be a fan of, life is winning me over though!! ^_^
haha i was actually a hipster of leenock. I watched all his games in GSL the season before his finals and then watched providence and was like helllll yeahhhhh and then watched gsl vs jjakji and was like hell yeahhhh and then jjakji went superterran and i was like helllll noooo
Yup he's been my favorite player for like 14 months now... he had a "sort of" rough time for this summer or whenever when he didn't show up in many events but he's dominating again and I love it. He's the player with the most innovation and flexibility in builds imo. Most exciting to watch too, and so young. Actually the two players battling are my overlords in every sense of the word. My absolute favorites in a long list.
Pff calling yourself hipster. I've been into Leenock since GSL open season 2 vs Clide.
I didn't play or watch back then so I can't out-hipster you. I liked him from the first time I saw him though, maybe longer than 14 months, time gets away from me. Its probably been 1.5+ years now.. jesus.
On November 05 2012 08:06 Cubeface wrote: We are watching children commanders fight it out. 15 year old vs 17 year old. Haha
15-17 is prime time for playing RTS. I don't get why you guys are making a big deal out of their ages.
Yeah, when chess players can be grandmaster at age 15, so can SC2 players win the GSL at age 15.
I'm a lifelong chess player and high rated (follow all the top tournaments and research on the subject of player peaks). Its been proven again and again that the peak is somewhere between 20's to 40's with a majority peaking around 30 and some outliers nothing too specific. SC2 is much different though its a demanding game physically (high APM's) so comparisons are rough.
Edit not disagreeing or anything just trying to add to the conversation. Chess =/= SC2. But the comparisons are interesting. Still, its funny how the best players really are this young though I wonder if this trend will continue as esports grows.
Best players are young because SC2 just requires execution. Strategy is important but can just be copied, which is not the case in chess. Imagine playing chess purely by memorizing your favorite openings, any competent player could beat you by going outside your comfort zone.
If SC2 is still relevant in 10 years, then it will be the case that any new player might need around 3 years of experience to be top of the world, whereas currently it's like 1 year.
Physically, a person in their early 20's has more potential than a 15 year old. It's just that a very young person learns very quickly, and usually can practice a ton, and therefore quickly rises to the top. But take a mediocre 15 year old sc2 pro and have him practice diligently until he's 20. Then you'll have an sc2 beast.
Ever since I followed RTS games it's always been the younger guys. Like I said before, 15-17 is the perfect age to be hitting your stride.
It applied to every RTS I ever played.
What I find more impressive is players who have only been playing for a very short-time and they excel right away. Things like BaBy getting picked up at the age of 12:
I think the only reason you see more of them at this age doing well is because they have literally nothing to think about except starcraft, they still live with mom and dad, they don't need to work, high school is a joke... so yeah they can just focus on starcraft
Why of course bud. You and I both know the factors in play.
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