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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
October 21 2012 20:50 GMT
#81
On October 22 2012 05:47 Leviance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 05:44 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On October 22 2012 05:37 red4ce wrote:
I hope that isn't Brood War apm listed for Jaedong there. 288 is pretty low for his standards.

It's based on starcraft 2 minutes. Not sure what the ratio is but it probably translates to more like 350


yep it's about 384 "real" apm. Dunno why Blizzard refuses to change this.



It's kinda like evolution with backwards eyes and laryngeal nerves... a bad design at the start can't so easily be reversed everything else builds on it. All the movement speeds and attack speeds are based on that time meaning attack speeds would beoome like 1.243693234 seconds and duration of spells would be 6.37481834091 seconds, and for all we know there could be some coding issue that makes it more complicated than changing a few values.
stephenrau
Profile Joined November 2011
468 Posts
October 21 2012 20:50 GMT
#82
On October 22 2012 05:47 Elroi wrote:
Fuck yeah Jaedong !

Dumb ? Is that a Complexity team logo? I'm a noob.
M‡Stephano ¤ By.Sun ¤ SKT1.Rain ¤ soO
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
October 21 2012 20:51 GMT
#83
On October 22 2012 05:47 ChoiSulli wrote:
lol that was the closest to BW ZvZ ive ever seen in SC2


I've seen it played quite a bit, but it usually transitions once infestors come out and fungal down 10 mutas, we just didn't get to that point.
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
October 21 2012 20:54 GMT
#84
4-1? What happened to our little protoss bonjwa-to-be?
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
October 21 2012 20:55 GMT
#85
ZvZ and PvP don't seem to be matchups where someone behind can come back. Down in mutas? You lose. Down in blink stalkers or collsai? You lose.

=(
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
October 21 2012 20:58 GMT
#86
that's jaedong's split!
Die-hard KeSPA fan
babbaj
Profile Joined April 2012
20 Posts
October 21 2012 20:58 GMT
#87
Sick split.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
October 21 2012 20:59 GMT
#88
On October 22 2012 05:55 iAmJeffReY wrote:
ZvZ and PvP don't seem to be matchups where someone behind can come back. Down in mutas? You lose. Down in blink stalkers or collsai? You lose.

=(

Infestors can turn the tide in ZvZ if you can get them out before him without dying.

Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
October 21 2012 20:59 GMT
#89
On October 22 2012 05:54 -TesteR- wrote:
4-1? What happened to our little protoss bonjwa-to-be?

He has stated in a few interviews he finds PvZ to be particularly difficult
Refer to my post.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
October 21 2012 21:01 GMT
#90
On October 22 2012 05:59 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 05:54 -TesteR- wrote:
4-1? What happened to our little protoss bonjwa-to-be?

He has stated in a few interviews he finds PvZ to be particularly difficult


Yeah and if you look at his record, he's somehow managed to avoid zerg quite a lot.
nmetasch
Profile Joined April 2012
United States600 Posts
October 21 2012 21:03 GMT
#91
On October 22 2012 05:59 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 05:54 -TesteR- wrote:
4-1? What happened to our little protoss bonjwa-to-be?

He has stated in a few interviews he finds PvZ to be particularly difficult


And he also has an OSL finals vs a Z coming up in less than a week, which i'm sure he was hiding builds for. OSL is worth a lot more than MLG MvP.. Honestly, no one doubts he will make it out of the open bracket if he goes to MLG, so the seed really isn't so important.
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
October 21 2012 21:03 GMT
#92
On October 22 2012 05:59 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 05:54 -TesteR- wrote:
4-1? What happened to our little protoss bonjwa-to-be?

He has stated in a few interviews he finds PvZ to be particularly difficult


Pretty interesting considering PvZ is his best matchup statistically @ 70%
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
October 21 2012 21:04 GMT
#93
On October 22 2012 06:03 nmetasch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 05:59 Zenbrez wrote:
On October 22 2012 05:54 -TesteR- wrote:
4-1? What happened to our little protoss bonjwa-to-be?

He has stated in a few interviews he finds PvZ to be particularly difficult


And he also has an OSL finals vs a Z coming up in less than a week, which i'm sure he was hiding builds for. OSL is worth a lot more than MLG MvP.. Honestly, no one doubts he will make it out of the open bracket if he goes to MLG, so the seed really isn't so important.

I've been wondering about that, do you think any of the Kespa teams care to send their players to this MLG if they don't just get seeded from this tournament? I mean, wishfully thinking, I would say yes. But I'm not holding my breath
Refer to my post.
stephenrau
Profile Joined November 2011
468 Posts
October 21 2012 21:05 GMT
#94
On October 22 2012 06:03 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 05:59 Zenbrez wrote:
On October 22 2012 05:54 -TesteR- wrote:
4-1? What happened to our little protoss bonjwa-to-be?

He has stated in a few interviews he finds PvZ to be particularly difficult


Pretty interesting considering PvZ is his best matchup statistically @ 70%

he had a nice little run in the losers bracket here
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea

It's just the zerg meta is getting stronger and stronger
M‡Stephano ¤ By.Sun ¤ SKT1.Rain ¤ soO
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
October 21 2012 21:07 GMT
#95
Wow Jaedong SUPER Greedy this game! Hatch first, 2 drones gas and another drone before pool??
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
October 21 2012 21:12 GMT
#96
I almost missed this thread because the title has no "MvP" in it.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
October 21 2012 21:14 GMT
#97
Gaahh Jaedong you split your roaches too thin T.T if you bull rushed one way you could have rolled him
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
October 21 2012 21:16 GMT
#98
JD OL spread is ridiculous. He has complete map vision on his side,.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
nmetasch
Profile Joined April 2012
United States600 Posts
October 21 2012 21:17 GMT
#99
On October 22 2012 06:04 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 06:03 nmetasch wrote:
On October 22 2012 05:59 Zenbrez wrote:
On October 22 2012 05:54 -TesteR- wrote:
4-1? What happened to our little protoss bonjwa-to-be?

He has stated in a few interviews he finds PvZ to be particularly difficult


And he also has an OSL finals vs a Z coming up in less than a week, which i'm sure he was hiding builds for. OSL is worth a lot more than MLG MvP.. Honestly, no one doubts he will make it out of the open bracket if he goes to MLG, so the seed really isn't so important.

I've been wondering about that, do you think any of the Kespa teams care to send their players to this MLG if they don't just get seeded from this tournament? I mean, wishfully thinking, I would say yes. But I'm not holding my breath


I think that it depends on two things. The first thing of importance is, what do they have going on right now? If its in the middle of a proleague season then teams need their star players, so only b teamers will likely get sent. Then it comes down to whether or not they feel such a b teamer is good enough to invest in netting a economic payoff big enough to return their investment. If its in between important tournaments like proleague, you also have to take into account positioning in tournaments like OSL or GSL which are much more important to kespa... If they have rain in a semi-final of OSL in 2 weeks, they clearly aren't going to send him to MLG or anything like that. After that, I think the next most important thing will be the players being willing enough to finance their own trip. I don't think kespa is going to finance such a low probability for payoff, and considering the teams can't spare their star players often, I doubt they will invest in it either.
Lysergic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States355 Posts
October 21 2012 21:18 GMT
#100
On October 22 2012 06:07 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Wow Jaedong SUPER Greedy this game! Hatch first, 2 drones gas and another drone before pool??


That's standard gas before pool... 15 hatch [16 gas] 16 pool is 'correct' build order.
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