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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 10 2012 23:03 GMT
#2841
1h30 delay, 10 min ad break + 10 min game analyzing + 10 min ad break, meanwhile Polt and GanZi are waiting. :/
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Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
November 10 2012 23:04 GMT
#2842
On November 11 2012 08:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On November 11 2012 08:02 Broodwurst wrote:
Having a flashback here... wasn't it Naniwa who danced his units in the enemies base on Metalopolis and then still lost? I think it was at an MLG, don't really remember though :o

Yes. It was Naniwa vs MC and he danced his zealots thinking he had won but then MC had a dark shrine out of Naniwa's vision just barely and DTs won the game



Ahhh right, thanks ^_^

Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
November 10 2012 23:04 GMT
#2843
On November 11 2012 08:00 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 07:59 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:55 Pwnzer wrote:
Off topic, but I love it when pro's are part of the conversation in the threads it provides so much insight into their own personal takes on the game. I wish more pro's took part in these.


Stop calling everyone a pro. Pros play in GSL/OSL/MLG, the rest does community services or streaming or coaching.


so basically idra/morrow/tyler are pros
and he said they were pros
how is there a problem

anyway, isn't the definition of pro getting paid to play?


My definition of pro is skill based, not money based. You can call your examples semi pros, i give you that. :D
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 10 2012 23:04 GMT
#2844
On November 11 2012 08:03 aRyuujin wrote:
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On November 11 2012 08:03 felisconcolori wrote:
On November 11 2012 08:01 Lylat wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:59 felisconcolori wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:55 Pwnzer wrote:
Off topic, but I love it when pro's are part of the conversation in the threads it provides so much insight into their own personal takes on the game. I wish more pro's took part in these.


One of the reasons I like Scarlett. She not only will participate in LR threads, and the occasional Twitch chat, I've seen her post in the LR thread between her own matches of a set, commenting to the fans how she felt.

Of course, that should never be allowed to get in the way of actually playing/casting the games. And The Community seems to always do its best to dissuade any professional or large figure from ever posting again.

C'est le vie?

*la :p


Apologies. I am an American, I know no better.

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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 10 2012 23:04 GMT
#2845
On November 11 2012 08:03 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 08:01 Lylat wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:59 felisconcolori wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:55 Pwnzer wrote:
Off topic, but I love it when pro's are part of the conversation in the threads it provides so much insight into their own personal takes on the game. I wish more pro's took part in these.


One of the reasons I like Scarlett. She not only will participate in LR threads, and the occasional Twitch chat, I've seen her post in the LR thread between her own matches of a set, commenting to the fans how she felt.

Of course, that should never be allowed to get in the way of actually playing/casting the games. And The Community seems to always do its best to dissuade any professional or large figure from ever posting again.

C'est le vie?

*la :p


Apologies. I am an American, I know no better.

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Don't worry we don't speak Chinese.
Get off my lawn, young punks
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
November 10 2012 23:04 GMT
#2846
Time for Polt!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 10 2012 23:04 GMT
#2847
On November 11 2012 07:53 Shodanss wrote:
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On November 11 2012 07:50 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:43 jnd wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:38 Liquid`NonY wrote:
I hate that disrespectful shit like dancing units. Grow up kid.

How is it disrespectful? If anything, no gg is.

How isn't it disrespectful? The other guy is trying his best to survive with the series on the line and he just stops trying. And it was perfectly reasonable for Naniwa to stay in the game. It wasn't some boxer-esque or fantasy-esque gg timing with one scv left and a barracks floated to the corner of the map. Naniwa was finishing out the game the best he could and Crank purposely shows Naniwa that he has stopped trying his best. What constructive message can that possibly send?

No gg is definitely disrespectful but is obviously in response to the disrespect Crank showed first.


Why must it send a contructive message? Perhaps it is nice for viewers to see and exciting to people currently on the venue.

If you're going to start questioning why things ought to be constructive, then this discussion has lost all reason. We have to at least agree that good and constructive acts are favorable to neutral, bad and destructive acts.

You suggest that it's for the purpose of entertainment. Everything is entertaining to someone and we all want standards of integrity and professionalism. The discussion is about where to set the bar. You've got to make an argument that a certain gain in entertainment value is worth a certain loss in professionalism. Merely suggesting that there is a gain in entertainment value isn't very moving.

I don't expect us to be able to calculate what's best. It's a matter of opinion, a matter of what people prefer. I know of forms of entertainment that are much less professional and wholesome than progaming and if enough people in the community wanted to head in that direction then progaming would. I state my opinion to say I'd rather head in a direction of increased professionalism. If someone was in control of it all, I would appeal to them rather than publicly state my opinion.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
November 10 2012 23:04 GMT
#2848
On November 11 2012 08:03 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 08:01 mango_destroyer wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:58 lolmlg wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:56 tylerf wrote:
When Life dances his lings against MKP everyone loves it. When it happens to Nani lots of people get pissed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That was lame too, tbqh.


How about when Ryung tries to proxy 2 rax Life, and Life successfully blocks that cheese and dances lings infront of barracks? Times like those, it is completely appropriate and hilarious.

We're getting off topic. The last game between Naniwa and Crank was not a hard fought victory. Skill was not really required.

Edit: So #1, no reason to dance. #2, no reason to expect a gg after one guy danced.


Indeed, naniwa not scouting as always costed him the game.
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
November 10 2012 23:04 GMT
#2849
SC2 and video game culture is still in development. The level of taunting, celebration, or disrespect that would be deemed acceptable vs. unacceptable is still being determined. Spectators' responses in forums like TL will probably will drive where it would end up. Personally I have no problem with dancing units or manner mules. I think it adds flavor and personality to the game... of course, until the player you are cheering for loses and gets shown off.
Never!
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
November 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#2850
I went out to buy milk and missed all the drama
MMA: The true King of Wings
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
November 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#2851
fuck this crank guy. Why are you so happy to win the coinflippiest matchup with a coinflip build. you have earned nothing.
White-Ra fighting!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#2852
On November 11 2012 08:03 fidelity wrote:
I think downtime between games is a good thing, then we get this sweet sweet drama in the LR-thread :D


You call this drama?

It's more like hilarious discussion between people who give no fucks and people who are upset.

alternatively between people who are biased in favor of naniwa and against him.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
November 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#2853
Polt needs to destroy Ganzi so hard he retires.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Solarist
Profile Joined September 2011
291 Posts
November 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#2854
On November 11 2012 08:03 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 08:01 mango_destroyer wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:58 lolmlg wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:56 tylerf wrote:
When Life dances his lings against MKP everyone loves it. When it happens to Nani lots of people get pissed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That was lame too, tbqh.


How about when Ryung tries to proxy 2 rax Life, and Life successfully blocks that cheese and dances lings infront of barracks? Times like those, it is completely appropriate and hilarious.

We're getting off topic. The last game between Naniwa and Crank was not a hard fought victory. Skill was not really required.

Edit: So #1, no reason to dance. #2, no reason to expect a gg after one guy danced.

Skill wasent really required because they both play protoss

/troll and run
Shodanss
Profile Joined November 2010
Greece245 Posts
November 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#2855
On November 11 2012 08:03 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 08:01 mango_destroyer wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:58 lolmlg wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:56 tylerf wrote:
When Life dances his lings against MKP everyone loves it. When it happens to Nani lots of people get pissed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That was lame too, tbqh.


How about when Ryung tries to proxy 2 rax Life, and Life successfully blocks that cheese and dances lings infront of barracks? Times like those, it is completely appropriate and hilarious.

We're getting off topic. The last game between Naniwa and Crank was not a hard fought victory. Skill was not really required.

Edit: So #1, no reason to dance. #2, no reason to expect a gg after one guy danced.


And #3 no reason to have fun... at all!!!
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WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
November 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#2856
Here comes the old bullshit again but I can't help myself. If Korean want to come here and take our jerbs thats fine they deserve it but they want to be BM then they can just stay home. Dare I say that? Its just like yeah we know you come from this random island and will win everything, you don't have to rub it in.
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
November 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#2857
On November 11 2012 08:04 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 08:03 lolmlg wrote:
On November 11 2012 08:01 mango_destroyer wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:58 lolmlg wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:56 tylerf wrote:
When Life dances his lings against MKP everyone loves it. When it happens to Nani lots of people get pissed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That was lame too, tbqh.


How about when Ryung tries to proxy 2 rax Life, and Life successfully blocks that cheese and dances lings infront of barracks? Times like those, it is completely appropriate and hilarious.

We're getting off topic. The last game between Naniwa and Crank was not a hard fought victory. Skill was not really required.

Edit: So #1, no reason to dance. #2, no reason to expect a gg after one guy danced.


Indeed, naniwa not scouting as always costed him the game.


eh, he was known for being one of the best scouters a while ago
he won MLG dallas back in the day basically 100% off of scouting everything always period
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#2858
On November 11 2012 08:04 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 08:00 aRyuujin wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:59 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:55 Pwnzer wrote:
Off topic, but I love it when pro's are part of the conversation in the threads it provides so much insight into their own personal takes on the game. I wish more pro's took part in these.


Stop calling everyone a pro. Pros play in GSL/OSL/MLG, the rest does community services or streaming or coaching.


so basically idra/morrow/tyler are pros
and he said they were pros
how is there a problem

anyway, isn't the definition of pro getting paid to play?

My definition of pro is skill based, not money based. You can call your examples semi pros, i give you that. :D

Well, you can't really make up your own definitions and come here and expect to have a constructive conversation.
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Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
November 10 2012 23:06 GMT
#2859
On November 11 2012 08:04 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 08:00 aRyuujin wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:59 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 11 2012 07:55 Pwnzer wrote:
Off topic, but I love it when pro's are part of the conversation in the threads it provides so much insight into their own personal takes on the game. I wish more pro's took part in these.


Stop calling everyone a pro. Pros play in GSL/OSL/MLG, the rest does community services or streaming or coaching.


so basically idra/morrow/tyler are pros
and he said they were pros
how is there a problem

anyway, isn't the definition of pro getting paid to play?


My definition of pro is skill based, not money based. You can call your examples semi pros, i give you that. :D


What a terrible terrible definition of a professional player of sc2. So basically you only consider someone a pro AFTER they've won a competition because that's the only time you can really tell that they've made it. Or is it just that MVP is the only pro ever in sc2 because of the number of GSL's he's won? Wow...
Herp Derp
Laeon
Profile Joined May 2011
France53 Posts
November 10 2012 23:06 GMT
#2860
Can someone make me summary of 2 Crank's win ? I missed them :/
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