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Standard LR rules apply: No balance whining, no KeSPA vs. GomTV inciting, no excessive derailing ESPECIALLY when games are on. This is not a thread for you to argue with other people.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
October 10 2012 14:12 GMT
#4021
I really want mvp to win this gsl and cement his legacy as the first great sc2 player of his generation, then retire and get surgery on his neck. Rather he leave the game on top on his own terms than to fall to new blood or the transitioned kespa pros.
The Notorious Winkles
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 10 2012 14:16 GMT
#4022
On October 10 2012 23:12 rysecake wrote:
I really want mvp to win this gsl and cement his legacy as the first great sc2 player of his generation, then retire and get surgery on his neck. Rather he leave the game on top on his own terms than to fall to new blood or the transitioned kespa pros.


Same. I hope after the end of this season (and hopefully his 5th GSL championship), he temporarily retires and gets the care he needs.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 10 2012 14:16 GMT
#4023
Another possibility is for him to get his surgery, coach WoL for a bit and then come back for HOTS.
kiss kiss fall in love
Pasargadae
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)173 Posts
October 10 2012 14:16 GMT
#4024
On October 10 2012 23:11 Draconicfire wrote:
RAINNNNN

Oh well, one championship is enough.


Tell that to MVP.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 10 2012 14:20 GMT
#4025
Sad I missed those games live, but I am impressed that Rain managed to win more then one game wow (Rain uses mostly one strategy to win engagements, not good if you fight someone like MvP). Sad for Taeja though but it was Life, his standard play was perfectly for beating Taejas standard play.
Wished for a TvT finals really, would have been alot of fun especially with those two Terrans. Life should be no problem for Mvp though ... but more then Taeja.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
October 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#4026
A bit sad that Rain lost but he made it very close and it's scary how quickly he has been improving.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 10 2012 14:24 GMT
#4027
On October 10 2012 22:33 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 18:24 Kontys wrote:
I am going to agree to 3-0 for Rain over MVP. The production team running behind Rain will come up with as many match-up revolutionising strategies as is required to win every set in any single elimination round. Those people, whoever they are, put the S in RTS.

To Rain's other credit is that he is the cleanest player in the business. There are no unforced errors in his gameplay, and I guess I can attribute this straight away to the rigorous training regimens of the KESPA teams... and we thought we knew what korean training meant.

The big hurdle with the coming of KESPA to SC2 has been the (somewhat expected) revelation, that noone in the ESF establishment has a brain. MVP is actually the only plausible exception to that, but he isn't a convincing exception by comparison, nowhere near ingenious enough.

In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. Rain 3-0. He is coming in with training and preparation on a whole another level than what the established SC2 scene is yet even able to comprehend.

Please refrain from arguing with me until the results are in.

User was temp banned for this post.

haha, almost forgot about this


Thanks for quoting, I missed that first time around. X-D
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 10 2012 14:24 GMT
#4028
On October 10 2012 23:12 rysecake wrote:
I really want mvp to win this gsl and cement his legacy as the first great sc2 player of his generation, then retire and get surgery on his neck. Rather he leave the game on top on his own terms than to fall to new blood or the transitioned kespa pros.


Though that sounds wise and perhaps the right thing, for him this is a sign he's still good enough to keep playing even with a injury and pain. For 50k people are willing to endure alot of pain.
Currently is the best time for him to earn alot of money, there is no guarantee he will be able to do the same after the surgery.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 10 2012 14:27 GMT
#4029
The most hilarious thing is that the best SC2 player in the world is a guy who's crippled by neck and wrist pain.

Gogo, Mvp, go get 'im~

(Really happy Life made it through too though.)
Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
October 10 2012 14:31 GMT
#4030
On October 10 2012 23:24 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 23:12 rysecake wrote:
I really want mvp to win this gsl and cement his legacy as the first great sc2 player of his generation, then retire and get surgery on his neck. Rather he leave the game on top on his own terms than to fall to new blood or the transitioned kespa pros.


Though that sounds wise and perhaps the right thing, for him this is a sign he's still good enough to keep playing even with a injury and pain. For 50k people are willing to endure alot of pain.
Currently is the best time for him to earn alot of money, there is no guarantee he will be able to do the same after the surgery.


With luck, maybe he can even recover in time for HotS.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2666 Posts
October 10 2012 14:33 GMT
#4031
On October 10 2012 23:24 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 23:12 rysecake wrote:
I really want mvp to win this gsl and cement his legacy as the first great sc2 player of his generation, then retire and get surgery on his neck. Rather he leave the game on top on his own terms than to fall to new blood or the transitioned kespa pros.


Though that sounds wise and perhaps the right thing, for him this is a sign he's still good enough to keep playing even with a injury and pain. For 50k people are willing to endure alot of pain.
Currently is the best time for him to earn alot of money, there is no guarantee he will be able to do the same after the surgery.



Is there some more information what is actually wrong with his neck/wrists?
I always wonder how he would play while being perfectly healthy.....
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
October 10 2012 14:34 GMT
#4032
On October 10 2012 23:24 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 23:12 rysecake wrote:
I really want mvp to win this gsl and cement his legacy as the first great sc2 player of his generation, then retire and get surgery on his neck. Rather he leave the game on top on his own terms than to fall to new blood or the transitioned kespa pros.


Though that sounds wise and perhaps the right thing, for him this is a sign he's still good enough to keep playing even with a injury and pain. For 50k people are willing to endure alot of pain.
Currently is the best time for him to earn alot of money, there is no guarantee he will be able to do the same after the surgery.


Is 50k worth the possibility of being crippled or in chronic pain the rest of your life?

He's already cemented himself as the first sc2 great (yea i don't like the word bonjwa) like boxer was in sc1.
The Notorious Winkles
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 10 2012 14:36 GMT
#4033
On October 10 2012 23:27 babylon wrote:
The most hilarious thing is that the best SC2 player in the world is a guy who's crippled by neck and wrist pain.

Gogo, Mvp, go get 'im~

(Really happy Life made it through too though.)


Insane fortitude imo.


And on reflection we're rather being spoiled with "significant" finals recently. Regardless of what you think of the actual games:
- Last season GSL was the first Protoss win in well over a year (something like 15 months) and the first PvP finals.
- Last season GSTL was the first all-kill GSTL finals.
- This season GSL is either the first royal roader or MVP notching up an almost unbeatable record of 5 GSL wins.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 14:41:29
October 10 2012 14:40 GMT
#4034
On October 10 2012 23:31 Ryncol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 23:24 Lysanias wrote:
On October 10 2012 23:12 rysecake wrote:
I really want mvp to win this gsl and cement his legacy as the first great sc2 player of his generation, then retire and get surgery on his neck. Rather he leave the game on top on his own terms than to fall to new blood or the transitioned kespa pros.


Though that sounds wise and perhaps the right thing, for him this is a sign he's still good enough to keep playing even with a injury and pain. For 50k people are willing to endure alot of pain.
Currently is the best time for him to earn alot of money, there is no guarantee he will be able to do the same after the surgery.


With luck, maybe he can even recover in time for HotS.


The biggest reason I think he's so reluctant to leave the game temporarily is because he is aware of how much it will impact his play. His recovery time could take months if not a year before he's back to regular form. In that time, with the influx of kespa talent, he would certainly fall behind if not in the metagame, than in his mechanics at least.

You gotta remember these guys caught up in only 5ish months? Mvp's recovery would certainly take that long at least I think, and who knows how monsterous those guys will be in another 5 months time.
The Notorious Winkles
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 10 2012 14:41 GMT
#4035
Anyone realize with only 5 GSLs this year, Mvp still managed to reach TWO finals, despite having a so called "off-year."

Just amazing. DRG won the first, where is he now? Seed got knocked early in this one, Mvp steps up again.
secret - never again
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 10 2012 14:43 GMT
#4036
On October 10 2012 23:34 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 23:24 Lysanias wrote:
On October 10 2012 23:12 rysecake wrote:
I really want mvp to win this gsl and cement his legacy as the first great sc2 player of his generation, then retire and get surgery on his neck. Rather he leave the game on top on his own terms than to fall to new blood or the transitioned kespa pros.


Though that sounds wise and perhaps the right thing, for him this is a sign he's still good enough to keep playing even with a injury and pain. For 50k people are willing to endure alot of pain.
Currently is the best time for him to earn alot of money, there is no guarantee he will be able to do the same after the surgery.


Is 50k worth the possibility of being crippled or in chronic pain the rest of your life?

He's already cemented himself as the first sc2 great (yea i don't like the word bonjwa) like boxer was in sc1.


I can not answer that question, also we don't know if he will be crippled or in chronic pain for the rest of his life.
But yes 50k is enough money to stay in pain for.

It's also a asian family thing, they earn money for the family, something like that could play a rol to.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
October 10 2012 14:50 GMT
#4037
MVP probably doesn't want to have the surgery because the LG sponsorship is so important for IM and SC2 so he needs to keep performing.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 10 2012 14:52 GMT
#4038
Life vs GODLIKE. ^^
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
October 10 2012 14:53 GMT
#4039
On October 10 2012 23:09 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 23:00 renaissanceMAN wrote:
[image loading]

nuff said.

Poor True, Dreamertt and Horror ._.


I smile everytime I see that Fenix is still on the IM roster
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 10 2012 14:53 GMT
#4040
On October 10 2012 23:34 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 23:24 Lysanias wrote:
On October 10 2012 23:12 rysecake wrote:
I really want mvp to win this gsl and cement his legacy as the first great sc2 player of his generation, then retire and get surgery on his neck. Rather he leave the game on top on his own terms than to fall to new blood or the transitioned kespa pros.


Though that sounds wise and perhaps the right thing, for him this is a sign he's still good enough to keep playing even with a injury and pain. For 50k people are willing to endure alot of pain.
Currently is the best time for him to earn alot of money, there is no guarantee he will be able to do the same after the surgery.


Is 50k worth the possibility of being crippled or in chronic pain the rest of your life?

He's already cemented himself as the first sc2 great (yea i don't like the word bonjwa) like boxer was in sc1.

Yeah it is if you're poor as fuck.

He probably doesn't care about legacy as much about money.
The life of a progamer is short, so he should cash in on it while he can.
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