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On October 10 2012 22:43 lichter wrote:
Is it too early to call dibs on contributing for Mvp's hype?
This is all we need: ![[image loading]](http://fireden.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/mvp-fuck-yeah.jpg)
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opterown
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On October 10 2012 22:48 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 21:54 opterown wrote:On October 10 2012 21:53 FakeDeath wrote:On October 10 2012 21:51 opterown wrote:On October 10 2012 21:49 FakeDeath wrote:On October 10 2012 21:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:On October 10 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:On October 10 2012 21:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:On October 10 2012 21:42 Farone wrote:Now I know why Life was picked last during RO16 picks  ) Jjakji 2.0 Not quite Jjakji, I think predictions for this final will be 60% Mvp and 40% Life for the " head " votes after seeing Life's games in GSL. I believe Leenock was favored 92% or 96% to win on Liquibet or something ridiculous. True. I guess he's kind of like jjakji though because jjakji was picked last that season and people were like wat who is this guy and why is everyone scared of him? a lot of people in the group selection thread were saying that they thought Life was one of the weakest players in the ro16 not too far behind Heart lol No one was saying Life was one of the weakest players in Ro16 during group selection. This guy is TSL4 2nd place and a monster in Korean weeklies. This guy isn't even playing this game full time and he is consistently 1#GM in Korean Server along with Creator. he's fulltime now, but going back to school soon i think? I don't think he is fulltime. He mentioned in an interview he ask permission from his teacher to take a day off just to play at the GSL. He mentioned in his interview after beating MKP that he was in the process of transferring school and that's why he had a lot of time to practice. i think that was during code a last season, which is actually quite a long time ago now haha. Actually no.Life isn't 100% fulltime pro-gamer. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=374565Life still goes to school and took the day off school to play in today Bo5 against Taeja.
pretty impressive, then. wonder how well he does at school, haha
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On October 10 2012 22:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
fuck yeah MVP!
I'm ashamed of you -_-
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On October 10 2012 22:44 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 22:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, IMMVP you are so damn good.
Many other Terrans have come and tried to take your position as #1 Terran over the years. MKP met you in the finals twice, but you beat them. Polt, Bomber, MMA, and Taeja. All tried to take the #1 Terran title from you, but you have outlasted them all. 6 GSL finals appearances, twice as many as the next highest, and twice as many titles as the next highest.
The Greatest MVP has 4 GSL titles and a plethora of other titles under his belt(WCG,IEM,MLG,etc). Until they(Polt,Bomber,MMA,Taeja) start to win those number of titles, then we can start talking. I never liked how TL hyped up Taeja as the current " best Terran player in the world " when he hasn't win a GSL title yet. Now the hype train for Taeja will now be slowed down.
People are always going to rush to the latest result and catapult that person upwards. MVP has had the highest korean-ELO peak, and currently holds the 4th highest international-ELO peak. Take that and combine it with the fact that he generally doesn't travel outside of korea, is a Blizzcon Champion, WCS Champion, MLG Champion and four-time GSL champion and it's ridiculous to even say that anyone else is as close to MVP in terms being "the greatest."
MVP is and always has been the best terran player in the world, and MVP is the best overall SC2 player in the world.
When someone else wins four of the biggest tournaments in one year, then we can start comparing them to MVP.
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Sad for Rain T_T but at least it was really really close compared to the other match. Now he should be able to focus more in WCS/OSL and probably win at least one of those.
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opterown
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On October 10 2012 22:55 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 22:44 FakeDeath wrote:On October 10 2012 22:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, IMMVP you are so damn good.
Many other Terrans have come and tried to take your position as #1 Terran over the years. MKP met you in the finals twice, but you beat them. Polt, Bomber, MMA, and Taeja. All tried to take the #1 Terran title from you, but you have outlasted them all. 6 GSL finals appearances, twice as many as the next highest, and twice as many titles as the next highest.
The Greatest MVP has 4 GSL titles and a plethora of other titles under his belt(WCG,IEM,MLG,etc). Until they(Polt,Bomber,MMA,Taeja) start to win those number of titles, then we can start talking. I never liked how TL hyped up Taeja as the current " best Terran player in the world " when he hasn't win a GSL title yet. Now the hype train for Taeja will now be slowed down. People are always going to rush to the latest result and catapult that person upwards. MVP has had the highest korean-ELO peak, and currently holds the 4th highest international-ELO peak. Take that and combine it with the fact that he generally doesn't travel outside of korea, is a Blizzcon Champion, WCS Champion, MLG Champion and four-time GSL champion and it's ridiculous to even say that anyone else is as close to MVP in terms being "the greatest."
the only thing Mvp needed is to win the WCS Global at the end of the year (probably one of the last big WoL events to cap it off) but alas no Mvp there
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On October 10 2012 22:57 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 22:55 renaissanceMAN wrote:On October 10 2012 22:44 FakeDeath wrote:On October 10 2012 22:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, IMMVP you are so damn good.
Many other Terrans have come and tried to take your position as #1 Terran over the years. MKP met you in the finals twice, but you beat them. Polt, Bomber, MMA, and Taeja. All tried to take the #1 Terran title from you, but you have outlasted them all. 6 GSL finals appearances, twice as many as the next highest, and twice as many titles as the next highest.
The Greatest MVP has 4 GSL titles and a plethora of other titles under his belt(WCG,IEM,MLG,etc). Until they(Polt,Bomber,MMA,Taeja) start to win those number of titles, then we can start talking. I never liked how TL hyped up Taeja as the current " best Terran player in the world " when he hasn't win a GSL title yet. Now the hype train for Taeja will now be slowed down. People are always going to rush to the latest result and catapult that person upwards. MVP has had the highest korean-ELO peak, and currently holds the 4th highest international-ELO peak. Take that and combine it with the fact that he generally doesn't travel outside of korea, is a Blizzcon Champion, WCS Champion, MLG Champion and four-time GSL champion and it's ridiculous to even say that anyone else is as close to MVP in terms being "the greatest." the only thing Mvp needed is to win the WCS Global at the end of the year (probably one of the last big WoL events to cap it off) but alas no Mvp there
He was sort of screwed out of that tournament due to his LG sponsorship (having to go to IEM and winning that instead).
The WCS is not an accurate measurement of the "best" player in the world, the tournament itself is so weird right now that the actual WCS Finals in China are going to be nothing but PvZ's.
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On October 10 2012 22:57 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 22:55 renaissanceMAN wrote:On October 10 2012 22:44 FakeDeath wrote:On October 10 2012 22:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, IMMVP you are so damn good.
Many other Terrans have come and tried to take your position as #1 Terran over the years. MKP met you in the finals twice, but you beat them. Polt, Bomber, MMA, and Taeja. All tried to take the #1 Terran title from you, but you have outlasted them all. 6 GSL finals appearances, twice as many as the next highest, and twice as many titles as the next highest.
The Greatest MVP has 4 GSL titles and a plethora of other titles under his belt(WCG,IEM,MLG,etc). Until they(Polt,Bomber,MMA,Taeja) start to win those number of titles, then we can start talking. I never liked how TL hyped up Taeja as the current " best Terran player in the world " when he hasn't win a GSL title yet. Now the hype train for Taeja will now be slowed down. People are always going to rush to the latest result and catapult that person upwards. MVP has had the highest korean-ELO peak, and currently holds the 4th highest international-ELO peak. Take that and combine it with the fact that he generally doesn't travel outside of korea, is a Blizzcon Champion, WCS Champion, MLG Champion and four-time GSL champion and it's ridiculous to even say that anyone else is as close to MVP in terms being "the greatest." the only thing Mvp needed is to win the WCS Global at the end of the year (probably one of the last big WoL events to cap it off) but alas no Mvp there
Well, at least he won IEM when he forfeited it.
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On October 10 2012 22:33 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2012 18:24 Kontys wrote:
I am going to agree to 3-0 for Rain over MVP. The production team running behind Rain will come up with as many match-up revolutionising strategies as is required to win every set in any single elimination round. Those people, whoever they are, put the S in RTS.
To Rain's other credit is that he is the cleanest player in the business. There are no unforced errors in his gameplay, and I guess I can attribute this straight away to the rigorous training regimens of the KESPA teams... and we thought we knew what korean training meant.
The big hurdle with the coming of KESPA to SC2 has been the (somewhat expected) revelation, that noone in the ESF establishment has a brain. MVP is actually the only plausible exception to that, but he isn't a convincing exception by comparison, nowhere near ingenious enough.
In closing, I conclude that the entire non-kespa starcraft establishment are slackers, no-brainers and inexperienced in their approach to RTS gaming. Rain 3-0. He is coming in with training and preparation on a whole another level than what the established SC2 scene is yet even able to comprehend.
Please refrain from arguing with me until the results are in.
User was temp banned for this post. haha, almost forgot about this
He is right about one thing though, Rain did set a new standards for Sc2 protoss players.
Sorry, no more buffs for you guys
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bUcpG.jpg)
nuff said.
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I enjoyed the MVP vs Rain series overall. Rain kept it close but he also had a lot on his plate whereas MVP only had to focus for this match. Let's see, 1. Rain had to prepare for Last in a bo7 series in the OSL (which for Kespa players is more prestigious than GSL) 2. He's participating in the MLG "MVP" (no pun intended :D) invitational and finally 3. Had to prepare for MVP. 4. MVP had a day prior to see 7 PvTs from Rain and 5. Last was the blueprint for showing how to beat rain and it was that exact style that MVP used in game 5. Not defending rain by any means it just sucks for him having to had play Last before a very important match with a 4 time GSL champion. There's always next time! GL MVP and Life should be an exciting set though!
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opterown
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On October 10 2012 22:58 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 22:57 opterown wrote:On October 10 2012 22:55 renaissanceMAN wrote:On October 10 2012 22:44 FakeDeath wrote:On October 10 2012 22:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, IMMVP you are so damn good.
Many other Terrans have come and tried to take your position as #1 Terran over the years. MKP met you in the finals twice, but you beat them. Polt, Bomber, MMA, and Taeja. All tried to take the #1 Terran title from you, but you have outlasted them all. 6 GSL finals appearances, twice as many as the next highest, and twice as many titles as the next highest.
The Greatest MVP has 4 GSL titles and a plethora of other titles under his belt(WCG,IEM,MLG,etc). Until they(Polt,Bomber,MMA,Taeja) start to win those number of titles, then we can start talking. I never liked how TL hyped up Taeja as the current " best Terran player in the world " when he hasn't win a GSL title yet. Now the hype train for Taeja will now be slowed down. People are always going to rush to the latest result and catapult that person upwards. MVP has had the highest korean-ELO peak, and currently holds the 4th highest international-ELO peak. Take that and combine it with the fact that he generally doesn't travel outside of korea, is a Blizzcon Champion, WCS Champion, MLG Champion and four-time GSL champion and it's ridiculous to even say that anyone else is as close to MVP in terms being "the greatest." the only thing Mvp needed is to win the WCS Global at the end of the year (probably one of the last big WoL events to cap it off) but alas no Mvp there He was sort of screwed out of that tournament due to his LG sponsorship (having to go to IEM and winning that instead). The WCS is not an accurate measurement of the "best" player in the world, the tournament itself is so weird right now that the actual WCS Finals in China are going to be nothing but PvZ's.
it's probably the most coveted title this year, but the lack of certain top players delegitimises it a bit. still, some insane competition there, and those who win it will have taken out aforementioned top players on the way.
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United States97274 Posts
On October 10 2012 23:00 renaissanceMAN wrote:nuff said.
Fenix needs to get a result!
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On October 10 2012 23:04 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 22:58 renaissanceMAN wrote:On October 10 2012 22:57 opterown wrote:On October 10 2012 22:55 renaissanceMAN wrote:On October 10 2012 22:44 FakeDeath wrote:On October 10 2012 22:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, IMMVP you are so damn good.
Many other Terrans have come and tried to take your position as #1 Terran over the years. MKP met you in the finals twice, but you beat them. Polt, Bomber, MMA, and Taeja. All tried to take the #1 Terran title from you, but you have outlasted them all. 6 GSL finals appearances, twice as many as the next highest, and twice as many titles as the next highest.
The Greatest MVP has 4 GSL titles and a plethora of other titles under his belt(WCG,IEM,MLG,etc). Until they(Polt,Bomber,MMA,Taeja) start to win those number of titles, then we can start talking. I never liked how TL hyped up Taeja as the current " best Terran player in the world " when he hasn't win a GSL title yet. Now the hype train for Taeja will now be slowed down. People are always going to rush to the latest result and catapult that person upwards. MVP has had the highest korean-ELO peak, and currently holds the 4th highest international-ELO peak. Take that and combine it with the fact that he generally doesn't travel outside of korea, is a Blizzcon Champion, WCS Champion, MLG Champion and four-time GSL champion and it's ridiculous to even say that anyone else is as close to MVP in terms being "the greatest." the only thing Mvp needed is to win the WCS Global at the end of the year (probably one of the last big WoL events to cap it off) but alas no Mvp there He was sort of screwed out of that tournament due to his LG sponsorship (having to go to IEM and winning that instead). The WCS is not an accurate measurement of the "best" player in the world, the tournament itself is so weird right now that the actual WCS Finals in China are going to be nothing but PvZ's. it's probably the most coveted title this year, but the lack of certain top players delegitimises it a bit. still, some insane competition there, and those who win it will have taken out aforementioned top players on the way.
I don't mean to insinuate that the player who wins the WCS will be a "bad player" by any means. Just saying that from the get-go the tournament was pretty weird, and especially the Korean qualifiers having MVP and MC (both players who probably would have qualified with ease) drop out because of IEM sort of messed everything up.
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opterown
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On October 10 2012 23:06 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 23:04 opterown wrote:On October 10 2012 22:58 renaissanceMAN wrote:On October 10 2012 22:57 opterown wrote:On October 10 2012 22:55 renaissanceMAN wrote:On October 10 2012 22:44 FakeDeath wrote:On October 10 2012 22:36 Bagration wrote:
Wow, IMMVP you are so damn good.
Many other Terrans have come and tried to take your position as #1 Terran over the years. MKP met you in the finals twice, but you beat them. Polt, Bomber, MMA, and Taeja. All tried to take the #1 Terran title from you, but you have outlasted them all. 6 GSL finals appearances, twice as many as the next highest, and twice as many titles as the next highest.
The Greatest MVP has 4 GSL titles and a plethora of other titles under his belt(WCG,IEM,MLG,etc). Until they(Polt,Bomber,MMA,Taeja) start to win those number of titles, then we can start talking. I never liked how TL hyped up Taeja as the current " best Terran player in the world " when he hasn't win a GSL title yet. Now the hype train for Taeja will now be slowed down. People are always going to rush to the latest result and catapult that person upwards. MVP has had the highest korean-ELO peak, and currently holds the 4th highest international-ELO peak. Take that and combine it with the fact that he generally doesn't travel outside of korea, is a Blizzcon Champion, WCS Champion, MLG Champion and four-time GSL champion and it's ridiculous to even say that anyone else is as close to MVP in terms being "the greatest." the only thing Mvp needed is to win the WCS Global at the end of the year (probably one of the last big WoL events to cap it off) but alas no Mvp there He was sort of screwed out of that tournament due to his LG sponsorship (having to go to IEM and winning that instead). The WCS is not an accurate measurement of the "best" player in the world, the tournament itself is so weird right now that the actual WCS Finals in China are going to be nothing but PvZ's. it's probably the most coveted title this year, but the lack of certain top players delegitimises it a bit. still, some insane competition there, and those who win it will have taken out aforementioned top players on the way. I don't mean to insinuate that the player who wins the WCS will be a "bad player" by any means. Just saying that from the get-go the tournament was pretty weird, and especially the Korean qualifiers having MVP and MC (both players who probably would have qualified with ease) drop out because of IEM sort of messed everything up.
well, mvp and mc would have had a hard road (both dropping to LB pretty quickly) so yeah. ;p
shame, really. would have really liked to see mvp, mc, mkp, drg, etc there too.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On October 10 2012 22:54 letian wrote:I'm ashamed of you -_-
why?
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On October 10 2012 23:00 renaissanceMAN wrote:nuff said.
Poor True, Dreamertt and Horror ._.
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Im a Crazy MVP fanboy, but I gotta hand it out to Rain, he put up one hell of a fight.
Guess im a rain fanboy now to
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Wow, my liquibets took a toll today. Well, I guess Rain was more of a heart pick then a head and Life I really underrated in that matchup.
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RAINNNNN 
Oh well, one championship is enough.
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EPT
