EPT[GSTL] TSL vs. Prime 2012 Season 3 Pennant Race - Page 47
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
Actually this season I am playing Terran (my bro dared me). I dropped to diamond but I am doing pretty good. | ||
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Gijian
United States273 Posts
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Mackus
England1681 Posts
On October 05 2012 21:21 Grumbels wrote: how about ghosts? nukes would have deterred symbol This was already answered by Taeja, a full Ultralisk transition will just outright destroy him | ||
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mcmartini
Australia1972 Posts
On October 05 2012 21:22 Mackus wrote: This was already answered by Taeja, a full Ultralisk transition will just outright destroy him People thought ghost were an option against infestor/brood after nerf? I thought that was always a troll haha | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On October 05 2012 21:23 mcmartini wrote: People thought ghost were an option against infestor/brood after nerf? I thought that was always a troll haha ghosts can EMP too, its a matter of getting to an insanely expensive unbeatable raven thor viking ghost army which is pretty much almost impossible to do. | ||
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Mackus
England1681 Posts
On October 05 2012 21:23 mcmartini wrote: People thought ghost were an option against infestor/brood after nerf? I thought that was always a troll haha There was like 10 pages in yesterdays LR thankfully someone had a brain and posted the question in GOM interview and Taeja just silenced them  | ||
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Orek
1665 Posts
Terran wins = This Terran is better Zerg wins = Zerg OP is the current metagame in forums. It would take some time to shift this metagame. | ||
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Vanadiel
France961 Posts
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
On October 05 2012 21:25 Orek wrote: Inevitable balance discussion when Zerg wins. Terran wins = This Terran is better Zerg wins = Zerg OP is the current metagame in forums. It would take some time to shift this metagame. This is very frustrating. When Mvp and Taeja won in the late game (dealing fine with infestor/Brood) all I read was how good they were. Now Symbol doesn't get the same credit because all the Terrans want to balance whine to make excuses for their own bad play. So sad | ||
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InoyouS2
1005 Posts
On October 05 2012 21:23 mcmartini wrote: People thought ghost were an option against infestor/brood after nerf? I thought that was always a troll haha Indeed, Blizzard nerfed them to a single-spell nuke unit, (and by nuke I mean EMP), snipe is almost never used except against HTs. At the moment Terran is in a REALLY weird place in these matchups, it's pretty much like they have no late-game apart from improvisation. | ||
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
On October 05 2012 21:26 Vanadiel wrote: Funny that everyone complain about Zerg lategame in ZvT, while the only zerg who advanced this week in GSL is the one that didn't try to go to lategame. This guy's got it right | ||
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mcmartini
Australia1972 Posts
On October 05 2012 21:25 Orek wrote: Inevitable balance discussion when Zerg wins. Terran wins = This Terran is better Zerg wins = Zerg OP is the current metagame in forums. It would take some time to shift this metagame. It's not surprising weren't you here when Zerg was UP and whenever Terran won it was Terran OP and if Zerg won it was Zerg is better/Terran messed up? | ||
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Mackus
England1681 Posts
On October 05 2012 21:28 Doubting wrote: This is very frustrating. When Mvp and Taeja won in the late game (dealing fine with infestor/Brood) all I read was how good they were. Now Symbol doesn't get the same credit because all the Terrans want to balance whine to make excuses for their own bad play. So sad Leenock destroyed Taeja, did you not watch Cloud Kingdom? Taeja was probably lucky to win the series if Leenock didn't try some strange double Roach Warren build in the middle of a ro8 finals. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On October 05 2012 21:26 Vanadiel wrote: Funny that everyone complain about Zerg lategame in ZvT, while the only zerg who advanced this week in GSL is the one that didn't try to go to lategame. In my opinion if Life had gone against a more cerebral player of the same caliber he would have had a tougher time, and probably would have lost. | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
Same reason why terms like Patch Zergs exist with no equivalent for T. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
The reason ghosts were viable with snipe was that they can actually snipe BLs from a distance and have tanks/marines protect them. If they are used just for anti-infestor, they basically need to run up and hope they get there EMP's off before they get killed by broodlings. And like Taeja pointed out, if you get a lot of ghosts to make sure you get EMPs off, an Ultra transition will kill you. I know a lot of us like to theorycraft how 3-4 ghosts can EMP the entire infestor/Queen ball and the terran can a-move their army to win. But seeing so few top pros use them probably means it is just not effective OR it is so difficult to pull off that they would take their chances with vikings. And if top koreans like Taeja, Byun, Mvp, MKP have problems using it, it is probably pretty damn difficult. | ||
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