• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:57
CET 12:57
KST 20:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT25Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book17Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0241LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more... How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) How do the "codes" work in GSL? LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Do you consider PvZ imbalanced? Recent recommended BW games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion CasterMuse Youtube
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Fighting Spirit mining rates Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1929 users

[Code S] Ro16 Group B: 2012 GSL Season 4 - Page 25

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 113 Next
No balance whine
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
September 27 2012 10:02 GMT
#481
I'm sure by the finals the observer will have improved. at least after tonight they will probably tell him about all the missed harass so far. Is this his first time replacing Legend?
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
September 27 2012 10:03 GMT
#482
HerO 2-0 incoming.
#TheOneTrueDong
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
September 27 2012 10:03 GMT
#483
On September 27 2012 19:02 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 19:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This song is kinda cool


I actually find it both kinda cool and kinda annoying. Dunno how that works, probably because I've heard stuff like it except better.


Must agree with you here. It feels a bit like.. whats that song by MGMT? A bit annoying but interesting at the same time
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 27 2012 10:03 GMT
#484
Oppa Leenock style!

[image loading]
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
September 27 2012 10:03 GMT
#485
On September 27 2012 19:02 Doomwish wrote:
I'm sure by the finals the observer will have improved. at least after tonight they will probably tell him about all the missed harass so far. Is this his first time replacing Legend?


It's Legend....
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
September 27 2012 10:03 GMT
#486
On September 27 2012 19:02 Doomwish wrote:
I'm sure by the finals the observer will have improved. at least after tonight they will probably tell him about all the missed harass so far. Is this his first time replacing Legend?


I think he has been obsing for a couple of days at least.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 27 2012 10:03 GMT
#487
On September 27 2012 19:03 trwkling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 19:02 Hall0wed wrote:
On September 27 2012 19:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This song is kinda cool


I actually find it both kinda cool and kinda annoying. Dunno how that works, probably because I've heard stuff like it except better.


Must agree with you here. It feels a bit like.. whats that song by MGMT? A bit annoying but interesting at the same time


Kids?
I agree, similar feeling to the song. But Kids is pretty good song too.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 27 2012 10:03 GMT
#488
On September 27 2012 19:01 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 18:55 mrtomjones wrote:
This new observer is nowhere near as good as Legend...


Atleast he isn't as bad as when Legend first started. =P It is annoying though, because even on HQ it can be sometimes hard for me to spot things on the minimap, or else I would be completely content with just watching the minimap and the total supplies in order to know what was happening.


Well this is Legend. I don't blame him for not showing the harassment, he probably noticed, but thought that he rather not risk missing a critical moment in the main battle, as you guys all know was intense.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Buchan
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada184 Posts
September 27 2012 10:03 GMT
#489
On September 27 2012 19:01 acrimoneyius wrote:
Heart had a huge advantage almost all game long. One mistake in a battle costs terran the game. Not the case for protoss, who have templar, colossus, archons to kill bigger armies.
Yeah a lot of people in here don't seem to remember all the mistakes squirtle made. He let a drop kill his main nexus and then let his third get sniped. But 1 mismicro and "lol terran noob can't play late game". Even though squirtle mismicro'd and turned his templars into archons instead of storming like 4 times plus all those other mistakes.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
September 27 2012 10:04 GMT
#490
On September 27 2012 19:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 19:01 acrimoneyius wrote:
Heart had a huge advantage almost all game long. One mistake in a battle costs terran the game. Not the case for protoss, who have templar, colossus, archons to kill bigger armies.


He also lost all his SCVs at the third base in both games. That's pretty poor. Other than that Heart played well though.


I wonder if having a PF at the third in these situations could out strip the value of an orbital command.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 27 2012 10:04 GMT
#491
On September 27 2012 19:00 FeyFey wrote:
AWWWWW heart deserved the win there, playing such a perfect contain for most of the time and then one single mistake costs him the game. But good move by squirtly a terran army cannot be uncontrolled near the opponents army. So a move chargelots clean your bases pretty easily.

He wasn't playing to contain though, so how could it be perfect? Contains in TvP rely on out-expanding your opponent, which Heart had no intention to do.

Rather, he was looking for a two base kill, couldn't get it, then looked for a three base kill and couldn't get that either. Heart was waiting for a mistake from Squirtle big enough to win and it didn't come.

Squirtle was the vastly superior player that series and his victory was entirely deserved.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
September 27 2012 10:04 GMT
#492
On September 27 2012 18:59 Doomwish wrote:
pull the plug on all the fucking balance whine..

squirtle shut down hearts mining with zealot harass..neither player was mining with equal armies and squirtle pulled it out with better upgrades and positioning in the final engagement.



Yeah, but as happens so often in this game, Heart made a mistake, Squirtle didn't win. Letting those Ghosts die while away from the army was the end of it.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 27 2012 10:04 GMT
#493
On September 27 2012 19:02 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 19:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This song is kinda cool


I actually find it both kinda cool and kinda annoying. Dunno how that works, probably because I've heard stuff like it except better.

Kinda reminded me of POD's Youth of a Nation.
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
September 27 2012 10:04 GMT
#494
Anyone know this song?!
SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 27 2012 10:04 GMT
#495
I don't see how deathballing for 20 min and harassing with 2 zealots only after 3-3-2 is finished makes squirtle anywhere near rain when it comes to the late game.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 27 2012 10:04 GMT
#496
On September 27 2012 19:00 Crashburn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 19:00 FeyFey wrote:
AWWWWW heart deserved the win there, playing such a perfect contain for most of the time and then one single mistake costs him the game. But good move by squirtly a terran army cannot be uncontrolled near the opponents army. So a move chargelots clean your bases pretty easily.


It wasn't one single mistake. It was many small mistakes and a couple huge mistakes, like being too aggressive after killing the third and clumping up his vikings against storm + archon.


Don't think the vikings matters since they kill the Colossi pretty quickly (only 1 at the very back was left). It was the storms from the 4 templars at the back that kill Heart at the end. Storms can turn engagements at the mid way point where as EMPs pretty much need to be hit at the start for max effectiveness.
TheRooster
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden719 Posts
September 27 2012 10:04 GMT
#497
On September 27 2012 19:02 Doomwish wrote:
I'm sure by the finals the observer will have improved. at least after tonight they will probably tell him about all the missed harass so far. Is this his first time replacing Legend?

It is Legend....in the beginning of everygame there has been a popout with game directed by StLegend.
<3 Startale <3 Naniwa <3 Squirtle <3 Parting <3 sOs <3 Life <3 Leenock <3 Bomber <3 Mvp <3 Gumiho
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
September 27 2012 10:05 GMT
#498
On September 27 2012 19:02 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 19:01 TommyP wrote:
On September 27 2012 19:00 Hassybaby wrote:
On September 27 2012 18:59 mrtomjones wrote:
On September 27 2012 18:58 TommyP wrote:
Again, I said I dont like watching Protoss match ups. Its because 1/2 of the time they win, I spend 20 minutes trying to figure out how they didnt lose haha.

Pokemon power? I thought he was dead too. That zealot harass won it both games I think.


Well Heart did give away at elast 12 ghosts and a decent chunk of vikings for very little return

Squirtle gave away two nexus and like 6 high templars haha.

squirtle didn't need the nexuses or ht

the 12 ghosts and vikings were crucial to heart surviving


I feel like terrans over make ghosts vs toss late game. You really only need enough for a few emps and snipes on the templar. otherwise the supply is better used elsewhere..they are so slow and cant stim out of bad position.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
September 27 2012 10:05 GMT
#499
On September 27 2012 18:58 Noc- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 18:56 Greenei wrote:
what a fucking joke...


Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 18:56 acrimoneyius wrote:
Protoss is fucking bullshit..rofl.


The amount of butthurt terrans in this thread is too damn high!

E: Oh BTW, congratz acri you have the same birthday.


lol butthurt hivedwelling loser AMIRITE?
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Crashburn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States476 Posts
September 27 2012 10:05 GMT
#500
On September 27 2012 19:04 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 19:00 Crashburn wrote:
On September 27 2012 19:00 FeyFey wrote:
AWWWWW heart deserved the win there, playing such a perfect contain for most of the time and then one single mistake costs him the game. But good move by squirtly a terran army cannot be uncontrolled near the opponents army. So a move chargelots clean your bases pretty easily.


It wasn't one single mistake. It was many small mistakes and a couple huge mistakes, like being too aggressive after killing the third and clumping up his vikings against storm + archon.


Don't think the vikings matters since they kill the Colossi pretty quickly (only 1 at the very back was left). It was the storms from the 4 templars at the back that kill Heart at the end. Storms can turn engagements at the mid way point where as EMPs pretty much need to be hit at the start for max effectiveness.


The fight was over before the storms were ever used.
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 113 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #120
Creator vs KrystianerLIVE!
Zoun vs Shameless
CranKy Ducklings110
LiquipediaDiscussion
PiG Sty Festival
09:00
Group D
YoungYakov vs ShoWTimELIVE!
ByuN vs Serral
PiGStarcraft1616
TKL 350
IndyStarCraft 273
BRAT_OK 199
Rex177
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft1616
TKL 350
IndyStarCraft 273
BRAT_OK 199
Rex 177
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37712
Rain 7230
Calm 5805
Horang2 1308
Jaedong 854
actioN 498
Larva 407
Stork 376
firebathero 363
Mini 342
[ Show more ]
Zeus 333
Soma 242
PianO 202
Last 193
Hyun 148
Killer 145
Sharp 142
Rush 115
Dewaltoss 108
Pusan 95
hero 90
Sea.KH 57
yabsab 55
Movie 55
ToSsGirL 46
soO 42
Barracks 41
Sacsri 34
Hm[arnc] 32
Shine 31
NaDa 27
Backho 27
sorry 22
Noble 19
zelot 14
Terrorterran 13
Dota 2
XaKoH 689
XcaliburYe196
canceldota103
NeuroSwarm98
Counter-Strike
zeus1326
m0e_tv824
x6flipin372
byalli131
edward97
fl0m0
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King90
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor225
MindelVK10
Other Games
singsing2127
B2W.Neo917
ToD168
DeMusliM53
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL10021
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 8
• Response 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota291
League of Legends
• Jankos2410
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
12h 3m
Replay Cast
21h 3m
Wardi Open
1d
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 5h
OSC
1d 12h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
SC Evo Complete
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.