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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 18 2012 23:38 GMT
#41
On September 19 2012 08:36 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?

Kill the immortals.


that's hard when your roaches can't even hit them with forcefields in the way
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 18 2012 23:39 GMT
#42
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


he should've known it was coming, he saw the really quick 1 gate robo and sentries. if he sacked an overlord he definitely would've known it was coming.
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
September 18 2012 23:39 GMT
#43
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


Which Finale did a good job of preventing by faking he was looking to take a fast third, shame the casters wrote this off as being indecisive...
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 23:41:17
September 18 2012 23:40 GMT
#44
I i was zerg on Ohana i would just open eco 6pool. Seriously. The tos is getting away with having 1 gate for like forever

edit: against a player like Finale its good to force the game to be not so standard, he will have to improvise and not play as he planned.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 18 2012 23:40 GMT
#45
On September 19 2012 08:39 bucckevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


he should've known it was coming, he saw the really quick 1 gate robo and sentries. if he sacked an overlord he definitely would've known it was coming.


well he did know it was coming and he did a good job delaying to get a crapton of roaches. as soemone said his problem was not getting the warp prism in time so there actually were like 2 rounds of warp ins.

+ you know sentries have been inducing balance cries since forever cause they be op meng
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
September 18 2012 23:42 GMT
#46
On September 19 2012 08:40 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:39 bucckevin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


he should've known it was coming, he saw the really quick 1 gate robo and sentries. if he sacked an overlord he definitely would've known it was coming.


well he did know it was coming and he did a good job delaying to get a crapton of roaches. as soemone said his problem was not getting the warp prism in time so there actually were like 2 rounds of warp ins.

+ you know sentries have been inducing balance cries since forever cause they be op meng


He knew it was coming too late to add tech to deal with it though, and seeing a robo and some sentries doesn't guarantee an allin, plenty of korean toss go immortal/sentry expand.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
September 18 2012 23:42 GMT
#47
On September 19 2012 08:39 Purple Haze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


Which Finale did a good job of preventing by faking he was looking to take a fast third, shame the casters wrote this off as being indecisive...


Hehe yeah casters missed that. It was obvious it was a fake, for me anyways, since i saw his game against JD earlier ^^
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 18 2012 23:44 GMT
#48
On September 19 2012 08:40 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:39 bucckevin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


he should've known it was coming, he saw the really quick 1 gate robo and sentries. if he sacked an overlord he definitely would've known it was coming.


well he did know it was coming and he did a good job delaying to get a crapton of roaches. as soemone said his problem was not getting the warp prism in time so there actually were like 2 rounds of warp ins.

+ you know sentries have been inducing balance cries since forever cause they be op meng



Probably wouldnt have mattered because he had a pylon down anyways. The forcefields were good, but they weren't that good because they trapped no units inside, Coca was just being an idiot and a-moved his units into a force field wall, having his units die slowly.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 23:45:09
September 18 2012 23:44 GMT
#49
He already had gotten the infenstation pit - he should've gotten a few infestors, imo. Even without the energy upgrade, just 2 or so would've helped so much vs all those sentries

edit: or just what buck said, that's pretty good advice
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 18 2012 23:49 GMT
#50
Finale planned for mutalisks, and got roaches.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 18 2012 23:49 GMT
#51
that was kinda quick.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 18 2012 23:49 GMT
#52
if he had just left some sentries in the natural's ramp he would've been fine
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 18 2012 23:50 GMT
#53
i guess that's why he went for 2 base on ohana
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 19 2012 00:07 GMT
#54
What an ugly engagement from Vampire.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 19 2012 00:08 GMT
#55
If you're up against a mass of Infested Terrans

WALK AWAY

Toss needs splash...Archons aren't enough Vampyre, you know this...
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
September 19 2012 00:08 GMT
#56
Kevin, he was able to put on pressure - as you just said, but he never did. That's why he's losing.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 19 2012 00:12 GMT
#57
BOOOOOOOO ZvZ BOOOOOOO
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
September 19 2012 00:12 GMT
#58
...
Not sending either Sniper or DRG at this point seems like a mistake.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
eChoWns
Profile Joined June 2006
Germany168 Posts
September 19 2012 00:15 GMT
#59
i suggest colossi should be immune to fungal, that way pvz is solved...
I am a happy man
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 19 2012 00:16 GMT
#60
On September 19 2012 09:12 Walnuts wrote:
...
Not sending either Sniper or DRG at this point seems like a mistake.


MVP is more likely worried about their upcoming GSTL match.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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