EPT[IPTL] SlayerS vs MVP - Premier Group A - Page 9
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On September 19 2012 10:56 MasterKang wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Spring/Championship/ChampionshipBracket Monster came from loser's bracket to beat Sheth, JYP, Dream, Ryung, and MC until he lost to Alicia 1-2 Judging from your other responses I see that you're convinced that Dark will soon become another DRG... Whatever, I'd rather not jump on the hype-train. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On September 19 2012 10:41 TAMinator wrote: SLayers didnt use ryung/Genius, MVP didnt use DRG/Keen Im almost under the impression they aren't fully trying to win and more trying to give exposure and experience. A lot of Korean teams do this. E.g. LG-IM is famous for doing this and have been quite successful. Now, if LG-IM sends out a Seed, Yonghwa, LosirA, First, Yoda line-up, we would feel they are sending some of their best. But if this was 6 months ago, we would claim that LG-IM wasn't trying. Teams need to get some of their lesser experience players some playing time and exposure. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On September 19 2012 11:07 HolyArrow wrote: I don't recall Noblesse ever being a Code S mainstay. He might have been in Code S at some point a long time ago, but that's it. Yeah he wasn't. I think he was in Code S for 2 seasons and one of those seasons was in the group of death in the RO32 with MC, MVP, and Polt. Funny (actually more sad than anything) how SlayerS wins without fielding any Terran and getting all their wins from zerg. Of course this has been a trend from them for a while but it still is weird every time it happens. And were these games from a while ago? Because I find it odd that Puzzle played, thought he was on the verge of retirement. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On September 19 2012 11:02 MasterKang wrote: Since when is sniping a 3rd base ever game-ending? Sure he sniped the third and gained an advantage, but he sacrificed a ton of larvae and money on making those lings in the first place. Those larvae and minerals replaced drones that were consequently not mining from monster's 3rd. The supplies were still even after the 3rd snipe, the only difference really was the extra production for monster since he hadn't saturated his own 3rd. He had already been going muta when he was sniping the third. To suddenly switch into infestor just because he killed the 3rd would've been a retarded decision because his infestors would have been much later and the gas he spent on spire and banking for mutas would have gone to waste. He's a Code S level player, I would check the math before calling his play "vomit-worthy". What? You realize how fast zerg recovers with the inject larvae mechanic when they're not attacked? The only thing stopping Dark from droning up back to 70 in a heartbeat was Noblesse's non-stop aggression. Sure he didn't control his army that well, but he didn't actually lose anything. He just picked up all his units as he rallied them across the map and simply forced Dark to keep making lings/blings instead of drones. What more use would his units have just sitting at home protecting a 3rd base that wasn't under pressure from Dark anyways? It's pretty much game-ending in ZvZ when the loser of the fight does not respond with a large push of his own. Mutalisks allow you to drone freely while retaining complete map control. Any good ZvZ player understands that mutalisks are a waste of money besides their initial advantages, so you abuse their air mobility while you move onto tech that works better in a large fight. You'll always have the advantage because of the third, which grants you the gas to make the tech switch safely. The fact that Monster didn't do that when nothing was stopping him is sad. He could've went on auto-pilot and won the game just from the extra income. Monster has never been a Code S level player. He has merely being a very good player with amazing macro. His micro remains poor; he still runs banelings into tanks as a habit. His unit compositions and tech transitions have always been simplistic. His decision-making is okay. Yeah, Dark is going to drone back up to 70 workers! Without any queens! On two base! And he'll totally go to infestors during all that time and hold off a later marine-tank push easy peasy! And it's not like Noblesse lost units needlessly and gave his opponent time to rebuild his economy! | ||
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RiceAgainst
United States1849 Posts
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
Disappointed I missed "Dark" play. Im always interested in watching players who I don't see often. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote: Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently. yes what an awesome player. immortal sentries all ins makes one the a breakout player | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote: Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently. I always wish good things for finale, since he has had to deal with quite a lot of shit at a young age. + Show Spoiler + He was basically sexually harassed by Werra's captain back in 2010 as a minor. This led to Werra's disbandment. Sad story | ||
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On September 19 2012 12:07 CeriseCherries wrote: yes what an awesome player. immortal sentries all ins makes one the a breakout player might be the new heart man | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On September 19 2012 12:16 Bagration wrote: I always wish good things for finale, since he has had to deal with quite a lot of shit at a young age. + Show Spoiler + He was basically sexually harassed by Werra's captain back in 2010 as a minor. This led to Werra's disbandment. Sad story lol, afaik werra's captain sexually harassed someone else. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
WHERE DID DARK COME FROM!?!?! | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On September 19 2012 12:16 Bagration wrote: I always wish good things for finale, since he has had to deal with quite a lot of shit at a young age. + Show Spoiler + He was basically sexually harassed by Werra's captain back in 2010 as a minor. This led to Werra's disbandment. Sad story Pretty sure that wasn't finale. I don't think whoever that is still plays anymore =/ Been a long time since it happened, I honestly have forgotten the player. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On September 19 2012 15:38 X3GoldDot wrote: lol, afaik werra's captain sexually harassed someone else. On September 19 2012 15:42 bittman wrote: Pretty sure that wasn't finale. I don't think whoever that is still plays anymore =/ Been a long time since it happened, I honestly have forgotten the player. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1982_finale http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163268 it was finale (aka loverip) | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On September 19 2012 15:38 X3GoldDot wrote: lol, afaik werra's captain sexually harassed someone else. This article clearly states that it was LoveRip who was molested: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163268 Finale's page clearly shows that an alternate ID of his was LoveRip: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Finale Furthermore, clicking on "LoveRip" on the WeRRa page on Liquipedia clearly leads to Finale's page: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/WeRRa Definitely was finale. Edit: damn, opterown beat me to the punch | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On September 19 2012 15:43 opterown wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1982_finale http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163268 it was finale (aka loverip) Wow....the more you know. Well he's doing pretty well now since he seems to be the current protoss 'ace' of MVP. Still a lot of improvement required, but he's been doing decently in team leagues for a bit now. And qualified for Code A in a more difficult fashion than the already difficult qualifiers hehe. | ||
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