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[IPTL] SlayerS vs MVP - Premier Group A

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IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 01:38:12
September 18 2012 17:50 GMT
#1
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The time has come for the Premier group matches of the IGN Pro Team League!


Group A Schedule: Liquid vs EG: September 11
SlayerS vs MVP: September 18
Liquid vs MVP: September 25
SlayerS vs EG: October 2
SlayerS vs Liquid: October 9
MVP vs EG: October 16


IGN Pro Team League General Discussion

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When: Tuesday, Sep 18 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)



Format

Premier Division Group A is made up of four teams: Team Liquid, SlayerS, MVP, and Evil Geniuses. Group B contains LG-Incredible Miracle, StarTale, Prime, and TSL. Both groups will play round robin against each other team in their group. When group stages are over, the top two teams from each Group will play in a playoff for the $9,000 first prize!




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SlayerS
Alicia
Brown
Cella
CoCa
Min
Genius
Min
Miya
MMA
Puzzle
Ryung
YugiOh
Eve
Dark
KDY
Arthur
Miso

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MVP
DongRaeGu
Finale
Dream
Galaxy
KeeN
Killer
Lure
Monster
Noblesse
sC
Sniper
TAiLS
Vampire
Bang
YangSongE


The First Game of the IPTL Premier Division Group A is on Tuesday, Sep 18 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)


Poll: Who Will Win?!

MVP (29)
 
52%

SlayerS (27)
 
48%

56 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Win?!

(Vote): SlayerS
(Vote): MVP




Results!

+ Show Spoiler [SlayerS vs MVP Results] +
CoCa < Khaydaria > Dream
CoCa < Ohana > Finale
Miya < Daybreak > Finale
Miya < Antiga Shipyard > Vampire
Miya < Entombed Valley > Monster
Brown < Cloud Kingdom > Monster
Puzzle < Metropolis > Monster
Dark < Atlantis Spaceship > Monster
Dark < Whirlwind > Noblesse



Map List

IPLMap Khaydaria
IPLMap Atlantis Spaceship
IPLMap Antiga Shipyard
IPLMap Daybreak
IPLMap Whirlwind
IPLMap Cloud Kingdom
IPLMap Metropolis
IPLMap Ohana
IPLMap Entombed Valley

The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.



Casters

Today's games will be commentated by Kevin Knocke and AskJoshy!



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Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 17:55:46
September 18 2012 17:55 GMT
#2
Slayers!... Or should I say IMFirst?
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 18 2012 19:08 GMT
#3
Go Slayers!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1674 Posts
September 18 2012 19:20 GMT
#4
MMA, destroy DRG!

MMA DRG game 9 please
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 18 2012 19:23 GMT
#5
damn this is hopefully going to be a good matchup of days of old and not roflstomp for MVP
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 18 2012 19:32 GMT
#6
Hopefully this will be great.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
September 18 2012 19:38 GMT
#7
On September 19 2012 02:55 Walnuts wrote:
Slayers!... Or should I say IMFirst?


That is quiet clever my friend, but i will also cheer for slayers!!!
Mask DeMasque
Profile Joined February 2012
United States415 Posts
September 18 2012 19:51 GMT
#8
I hope this goes to an ace match and it is Genius vs DRG and we some amazing bm from whoever wins.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 18 2012 19:52 GMT
#9
Dreeeeeaaaaaaaammmmmmuuuuuuu will all kill.
Glorious SEA doto
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
September 18 2012 20:04 GMT
#10
MVP for sure!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Liltwizzler
Profile Joined August 2011
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 21:37:41
September 18 2012 21:20 GMT
#11
Slayers :D With MMA In the ace match or reverse all kill

slayers players that will probably play Miya or min Puzzle Cocoa (Alicia maybe) Genius and MMA
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
September 18 2012 21:27 GMT
#12
Both teams with really deep rosters. Should be a great one!
SlayerS fighting!
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 18 2012 21:55 GMT
#13
If DongRaeGu plays, MVP has got this easy. If he's not available (due to code s etc), it could be closer! When were the games played?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 18 2012 22:07 GMT
#14
On September 19 2012 06:55 DJHelium wrote:
If DongRaeGu plays, MVP has got this easy. If he's not available (due to code s etc), it could be closer! When were the games played?


That didn't hold true in the GSTL Finals
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 18 2012 23:04 GMT
#15
On September 19 2012 07:07 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 06:55 DJHelium wrote:
If DongRaeGu plays, MVP has got this easy. If he's not available (due to code s etc), it could be closer! When were the games played?


That didn't hold true in the GSTL Finals


Pffffffffft!

Nice to see Coca as a starter, hope he does well!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 18 2012 23:06 GMT
#16
What is this map?
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 18 2012 23:09 GMT
#17
On September 19 2012 08:06 Dodgin wrote:
What is this map?


Maps are in first post This one is called Khaydaria.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 18 2012 23:09 GMT
#18
coca off to a great start
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
September 18 2012 23:11 GMT
#19
gogo Coca get some kills for SlayerS.
Atrbyg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States513 Posts
September 18 2012 23:14 GMT
#20
This going to be sick. Just hoping this series goes to 9 games. :D
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
September 18 2012 23:15 GMT
#21
Go CoCa! Nice to see an 11/11 held off well.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 18 2012 23:19 GMT
#22
Gogo Coca ^_^
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 18 2012 23:20 GMT
#23
Dream's marines had got some insane healthcare. :O
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 18 2012 23:23 GMT
#24
coca ak
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 18 2012 23:29 GMT
#25
What did they say about Titan? Next fight club challenge for Hyun?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
September 18 2012 23:30 GMT
#26
Dat roach-marine comparison.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 18 2012 23:30 GMT
#27
ruhroh i see a sentry immortal allin inc
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 18 2012 23:30 GMT
#28
go teamDRG!
immortal allin on ohana...
lol
moo...for DRG
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 18 2012 23:32 GMT
#29
Finale doing the immortal-sentry all-in on Ohana? How unexpected.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
September 18 2012 23:33 GMT
#30
Deja vu...
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 18 2012 23:33 GMT
#31
I don't understand why Zergs just don't just run back when they get force fielded like that but have no units trapped inside..... just wait for the forcefield to go away and go in and surround.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
September 18 2012 23:34 GMT
#32
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 18 2012 23:34 GMT
#33
god sentries make me fucking mad... lol
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 23:35:43
September 18 2012 23:35 GMT
#34
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 18 2012 23:35 GMT
#35
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


2 base infestor, 3 base roach/ling with better positioning.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
September 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#36
We can see why Finale put a whooping on JD. Very impressive there.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
September 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#37
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?

Kill the immortals.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
September 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#38
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


you can also counter with roach/ling while teching up to mutas and sac your third while defending main/natural with a bunch of spines.
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#39
I've never seen Coca defend an immortal sentry push. He should try some other strat, like mass speedlings with baneling drop.
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 18 2012 23:37 GMT
#40
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


either toss has to mess up forcefields, or you have to blindly go ling/bling with ovie drops
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 18 2012 23:38 GMT
#41
On September 19 2012 08:36 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?

Kill the immortals.


that's hard when your roaches can't even hit them with forcefields in the way
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 18 2012 23:39 GMT
#42
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


he should've known it was coming, he saw the really quick 1 gate robo and sentries. if he sacked an overlord he definitely would've known it was coming.
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
September 18 2012 23:39 GMT
#43
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


Which Finale did a good job of preventing by faking he was looking to take a fast third, shame the casters wrote this off as being indecisive...
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 23:41:17
September 18 2012 23:40 GMT
#44
I i was zerg on Ohana i would just open eco 6pool. Seriously. The tos is getting away with having 1 gate for like forever

edit: against a player like Finale its good to force the game to be not so standard, he will have to improvise and not play as he planned.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 18 2012 23:40 GMT
#45
On September 19 2012 08:39 bucckevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


he should've known it was coming, he saw the really quick 1 gate robo and sentries. if he sacked an overlord he definitely would've known it was coming.


well he did know it was coming and he did a good job delaying to get a crapton of roaches. as soemone said his problem was not getting the warp prism in time so there actually were like 2 rounds of warp ins.

+ you know sentries have been inducing balance cries since forever cause they be op meng
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
September 18 2012 23:42 GMT
#46
On September 19 2012 08:40 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:39 bucckevin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


he should've known it was coming, he saw the really quick 1 gate robo and sentries. if he sacked an overlord he definitely would've known it was coming.


well he did know it was coming and he did a good job delaying to get a crapton of roaches. as soemone said his problem was not getting the warp prism in time so there actually were like 2 rounds of warp ins.

+ you know sentries have been inducing balance cries since forever cause they be op meng


He knew it was coming too late to add tech to deal with it though, and seeing a robo and some sentries doesn't guarantee an allin, plenty of korean toss go immortal/sentry expand.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
September 18 2012 23:42 GMT
#47
On September 19 2012 08:39 Purple Haze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


Which Finale did a good job of preventing by faking he was looking to take a fast third, shame the casters wrote this off as being indecisive...


Hehe yeah casters missed that. It was obvious it was a fake, for me anyways, since i saw his game against JD earlier ^^
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 18 2012 23:44 GMT
#48
On September 19 2012 08:40 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:39 bucckevin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:35 Dodgin wrote:
On September 19 2012 08:34 sparklyresidue wrote:
What beats this build? Do you just need a perfect engagement?


It would have helped a lot of Coca brought a second queen and then used both to target down the warp prism during the big battle, he let his queen auto attack onto random protoss units instead of trying to get the warp prism.

also, baneling drops wreck this build. of course you can't suddenly pull out banelings with drop so you need to know this is coming really early.


he should've known it was coming, he saw the really quick 1 gate robo and sentries. if he sacked an overlord he definitely would've known it was coming.


well he did know it was coming and he did a good job delaying to get a crapton of roaches. as soemone said his problem was not getting the warp prism in time so there actually were like 2 rounds of warp ins.

+ you know sentries have been inducing balance cries since forever cause they be op meng



Probably wouldnt have mattered because he had a pylon down anyways. The forcefields were good, but they weren't that good because they trapped no units inside, Coca was just being an idiot and a-moved his units into a force field wall, having his units die slowly.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 23:45:09
September 18 2012 23:44 GMT
#49
He already had gotten the infenstation pit - he should've gotten a few infestors, imo. Even without the energy upgrade, just 2 or so would've helped so much vs all those sentries

edit: or just what buck said, that's pretty good advice
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 18 2012 23:49 GMT
#50
Finale planned for mutalisks, and got roaches.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 18 2012 23:49 GMT
#51
that was kinda quick.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 18 2012 23:49 GMT
#52
if he had just left some sentries in the natural's ramp he would've been fine
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 18 2012 23:50 GMT
#53
i guess that's why he went for 2 base on ohana
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 19 2012 00:07 GMT
#54
What an ugly engagement from Vampire.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 19 2012 00:08 GMT
#55
If you're up against a mass of Infested Terrans

WALK AWAY

Toss needs splash...Archons aren't enough Vampyre, you know this...
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
September 19 2012 00:08 GMT
#56
Kevin, he was able to put on pressure - as you just said, but he never did. That's why he's losing.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 19 2012 00:12 GMT
#57
BOOOOOOOO ZvZ BOOOOOOO
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
September 19 2012 00:12 GMT
#58
...
Not sending either Sniper or DRG at this point seems like a mistake.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
eChoWns
Profile Joined June 2006
Germany168 Posts
September 19 2012 00:15 GMT
#59
i suggest colossi should be immune to fungal, that way pvz is solved...
I am a happy man
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 19 2012 00:16 GMT
#60
On September 19 2012 09:12 Walnuts wrote:
...
Not sending either Sniper or DRG at this point seems like a mistake.


MVP is more likely worried about their upcoming GSTL match.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 19 2012 00:18 GMT
#61
Miya didn't see an expo, then moved his OV away from Monster's main.. wtf =p
Liltwizzler
Profile Joined August 2011
United States78 Posts
September 19 2012 00:24 GMT
#62
Lol brown??? why not some other big player unless he is a sniper
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
September 19 2012 00:24 GMT
#63
that was a newbie mistake by Miya.... you cannot skip the baneling nest for fast speed if your opponent doesn't expand...

He got his ramp block in time, if he had immediatly built a baneling nest with 50 gas, he could have morphed 2 banes at the top of his ramp to kill pretty much the attack and end up ahead.
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
September 19 2012 00:24 GMT
#64
On September 19 2012 09:16 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 09:12 Walnuts wrote:
...
Not sending either Sniper or DRG at this point seems like a mistake.


MVP is more likely worried about their upcoming GSTL match.

Wait, are they playing each other first round? I thought Slayers would play IM cause they won the round robin.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
September 19 2012 00:26 GMT
#65
On September 19 2012 09:24 Liltwizzler wrote:
Lol brown??? why not some other big player unless he is a sniper

He's got above average PvZ. He can probably beat Monster, and you might as well as let him have a go at DRG or Sniper if MVP decide to play them next, if not, you still have other picks.
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 19 2012 00:27 GMT
#66
On September 19 2012 09:24 Liltwizzler wrote:
Lol brown??? why not some other big player unless he is a sniper


He is a sniper, he's the one who took out Symbol in the semi-finals of the GSTL
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 19 2012 00:30 GMT
#67
On September 19 2012 09:24 Liltwizzler wrote:
Lol brown??? why not some other big player unless he is a sniper

Brown is good and an online team league is a good way to develop your minor players and get them used to nerves.

Plus some of the players may not be available - not all SlayerS players live in the house, for instance.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 19 2012 00:32 GMT
#68
On September 19 2012 09:24 Walnuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 09:16 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 19 2012 09:12 Walnuts wrote:
...
Not sending either Sniper or DRG at this point seems like a mistake.


MVP is more likely worried about their upcoming GSTL match.

Wait, are they playing each other first round? I thought Slayers would play IM cause they won the round robin.


MVP plays Startale on October 6th. Teams are very possessive about the GSTL and usually regard everything else as second-tier.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 19 2012 00:39 GMT
#69
All tied up :d nice match so far, hope to see DRG vs MMA
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 19 2012 00:40 GMT
#70
wonder if we'll hear a bit about puzzle and his dropout o.O
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 19 2012 00:40 GMT
#71
Where did Brown's HTs go?

Presumably sniped at the third, but the observer misses so much. :[
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 19 2012 00:41 GMT
#72
wait didn't puzzle retire?

at least he forfeited out of GSL...
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
September 19 2012 00:41 GMT
#73
That probably was one of the worst ways to handle Mutas I've ever seen.... No Archons, no storms, no continued phoenix production + upgrade, just blink stalkers which always end up fighting outside of his wall for some strange reason.

Disappointing reaction by brown all in all (though I must admit i was betting he'd loose from the second I saw him open stargate, haven't seen that paying off in a pro game in a long while :p).
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 19 2012 00:43 GMT
#74
On September 19 2012 09:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 09:24 Walnuts wrote:
On September 19 2012 09:16 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 19 2012 09:12 Walnuts wrote:
...
Not sending either Sniper or DRG at this point seems like a mistake.


MVP is more likely worried about their upcoming GSTL match.

Wait, are they playing each other first round? I thought Slayers would play IM cause they won the round robin.


MVP plays Startale on October 6th. Teams are very possessive about the GSTL and usually regard everything else as second-tier.

yeah, TSL-Prime tomorrow in IPTL, and also their opening GSTL match haha
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 19 2012 00:45 GMT
#75
On September 19 2012 09:41 Tula wrote:
That probably was one of the worst ways to handle Mutas I've ever seen.... No Archons, no storms, no continued phoenix production + upgrade, just blink stalkers which always end up fighting outside of his wall for some strange reason.

Disappointing reaction by brown all in all (though I must admit i was betting he'd loose from the second I saw him open stargate, haven't seen that paying off in a pro game in a long while :p).

He got HT and Storm. His HT were presumably sniped but the observer missed it.

He was about 20ish seconds late on Storm completion for the first attack wave, and if he'd had it he would have been in a decisive lead.
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Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 00:47:14
September 19 2012 00:45 GMT
#76
Well, if Puzzle can get 3 kills aginst MVP this time, Slayers will be all good.
Well, i guesss not.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 19 2012 00:46 GMT
#77
Puzzle ;_;
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 19 2012 00:47 GMT
#78
o.O this is kinda amusing

munster is good
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Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 19 2012 00:47 GMT
#79
Puzzle's just given up on scouting huh?
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 19 2012 00:47 GMT
#80
shittiest game ive watched in pro play in months... too greedy vs ultimate cheese
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Liltwizzler
Profile Joined August 2011
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 00:48:10
September 19 2012 00:47 GMT
#81
Lol ;l MMA hopefully

Lol Wtf :l dark? I saw him vs Mana or Hasuobs I believe and those weren't the best games.
Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
September 19 2012 00:47 GMT
#82
This was Puzzle's last game ever. It's over. ;__;
Supah
Profile Joined August 2010
708 Posts
September 19 2012 00:47 GMT
#83
If that happened to me on the ladder...
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 19 2012 00:47 GMT
#84
On September 19 2012 09:47 Hazuc wrote:
This was Puzzle's last game ever. It's over. ;__;


I heard Puzzle forfeited his Code A spot. Did he really retire?
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Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
September 19 2012 00:48 GMT
#85
...
I guess Slayers doesn't want to win then.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 19 2012 00:48 GMT
#86
Maybe Puzzle decided to drop out of GSL after that game.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 19 2012 00:48 GMT
#87
On September 19 2012 09:48 Walnuts wrote:
...
I guess Slayers doesn't want to win then.

i don't know about that... of course they want to win
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bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 19 2012 00:48 GMT
#88
On September 19 2012 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 09:47 Hazuc wrote:
This was Puzzle's last game ever. It's over. ;__;


I heard Puzzle forfeited his Code A spot. Did he really retire?



No he was thinking about it. After that last game, he might just retire =p
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
September 19 2012 00:48 GMT
#89
On September 19 2012 09:45 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 09:41 Tula wrote:
That probably was one of the worst ways to handle Mutas I've ever seen.... No Archons, no storms, no continued phoenix production + upgrade, just blink stalkers which always end up fighting outside of his wall for some strange reason.

Disappointing reaction by brown all in all (though I must admit i was betting he'd loose from the second I saw him open stargate, haven't seen that paying off in a pro game in a long while :p).

He got HT and Storm. His HT were presumably sniped but the observer missed it.

He was about 20ish seconds late on Storm completion for the first attack wave, and if he'd had it he would have been in a decisive lead.


He got the building and the research but then only built 2 HTs all game long which were likely sniped yes. Considering the amount of lings and mutas he saw he needed to build more of those.

Considering how badly Puzzle just lost because he failed scouting 101 though the game I was complaining about before was a joy to watch though.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 19 2012 00:48 GMT
#90
I left for two minutes and apparently Puzzle lost.

6pool vs. Nexus first or something weird?
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 19 2012 00:49 GMT
#91
On September 19 2012 09:48 bucckevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 19 2012 09:47 Hazuc wrote:
This was Puzzle's last game ever. It's over. ;__;


I heard Puzzle forfeited his Code A spot. Did he really retire?



No he was thinking about it. After that last game, he might just retire =p


I can't imagine he would drop out of GSL before he decided what he was going to do.
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 19 2012 00:49 GMT
#92
If Dark wins, I wonder if MVP will put in DRG..
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
September 19 2012 00:49 GMT
#93
Dark?? WTF?
#TheOneTrueDong
ian952
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada124 Posts
September 19 2012 00:49 GMT
#94
Genius coming soon™
...
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
September 19 2012 00:50 GMT
#95
On September 19 2012 09:49 bucckevin wrote:
If Dark wins, I wonder if MVP will put in DRG..

They'll go with Sniper. DRG was playing/preparing for OSL/Code S so I'd bet sniper.
#TheOneTrueDong
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 19 2012 00:50 GMT
#96
No MMA how disappointing
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 00:51:44
September 19 2012 00:51 GMT
#97
The last player for MVP will be Lure!

...

Hopefully not.
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Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
September 19 2012 00:51 GMT
#98
I wonder if Dark is just really good at ZvZ, cause he beat Coca, Bly, Min, and SortOf without dropping a game in the NASL 4 qualifiers.
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Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
September 19 2012 00:52 GMT
#99
On September 19 2012 09:48 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I left for two minutes and apparently Puzzle lost.

6pool vs. Nexus first or something weird?

plus a drone pull
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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
September 19 2012 00:52 GMT
#100
On September 19 2012 09:48 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I left for two minutes and apparently Puzzle lost.

6pool vs. Nexus first or something weird?


with drones.. hehe.
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 19 2012 00:52 GMT
#101
On September 19 2012 09:48 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I left for two minutes and apparently Puzzle lost.

6pool vs. Nexus first or something weird?


6 pool plus drone pull vs nexus first
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4391 Posts
September 19 2012 00:55 GMT
#102
What the heck is this? Where are Ryung/MMA/Genius?
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 19 2012 00:55 GMT
#103
On September 19 2012 09:49 TommyP wrote:
Dark?? WTF?


the DreamerTT ace strat
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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
September 19 2012 00:56 GMT
#104
how do casters not know simple things like that? lol.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 19 2012 00:57 GMT
#105
On September 19 2012 09:55 JJH777 wrote:
What the heck is this? Where are Ryung/MMA/Genius?

preparing for Code A/Code S?
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IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 01:21:47
September 19 2012 00:59 GMT
#106
Oops
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 19 2012 01:00 GMT
#107
LOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 19 2012 01:01 GMT
#108
Did he quit with 3 bases and a supply lead?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 01:01:55
September 19 2012 01:01 GMT
#109
Slayers Dark is the new MMA! Calling it! :p

Edit: Noblesse? What the hell? B-teamer sudden death!
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 19 2012 01:01 GMT
#110
lol noblesse what
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Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 01:05:08
September 19 2012 01:01 GMT
#111
Well, with these player picks, it might be possilbe for Slayers to actually win.
It's kinda interesting that IM and ST played their best lineups (pretty much) yet both MVP and Slayers are sending out their weaker players.
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 19 2012 01:03 GMT
#112
Monster was pretty dead guys Just didn't cause any damage, third only just popped and with too few drones to capitalize on it anyway... He needed to kill off Darks third, didn't happen - GG

That's ZvZ for you right there
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Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
September 19 2012 01:03 GMT
#113
FUCK YEAH NOBLESSE
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
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Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2517 Posts
September 19 2012 01:04 GMT
#114
Idk, I was pretty hyped when I saw SlayerS vs MVP but these games are just... meh. Not as impressive/fun as I would have thought considering the (possible) players.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 01:08:20
September 19 2012 01:05 GMT
#115
Im guessing they didnt want a ZvZ so sniper was out. DRG obviously to busy with OSL/Code S. Not sure why noblesse over sC/Keen but maybe he is exceptional at TvZ
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 01:10:25
September 19 2012 01:06 GMT
#116
This is Dark, not Miya. I think Noblesse has the advantage.

EDIT: Stim timing push? Awesome, I missed these.
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bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 19 2012 01:12 GMT
#117
Dark keeps wasting his banelings on those marauders, at least 7 banelings on marauders now.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 19 2012 01:15 GMT
#118
Uhhhhhh...if Noblesse just dropped and waited for tanks, he can finish the game five minutes from now.
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 19 2012 01:17 GMT
#119
On September 19 2012 10:01 Walnuts wrote:
Well, with these player picks, it might be possilbe for Slayers to actually win.
It's kinda interesting that IM and ST played their best lineups (pretty much) yet both MVP and Slayers are sending out their weaker players.


it's a game of chicken
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bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 19 2012 01:19 GMT
#120
lol what was that..
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 19 2012 01:19 GMT
#121
OMG IS DARK THE NEW ZERG BONJWA?
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 01:19:26
September 19 2012 01:19 GMT
#122
-_____________________________________-

Oh you silly terran. Humans are so fragile.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
September 19 2012 01:19 GMT
#123
Yeah Dark!! Coca flank.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 19 2012 01:19 GMT
#124
That attack went horribly for Noblesse
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 19 2012 01:19 GMT
#125
dark just needs to make some spines.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 19 2012 01:20 GMT
#126
both are so high on gas, haha
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Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
September 19 2012 01:20 GMT
#127
Nobelesse going full Code B
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VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
September 19 2012 01:25 GMT
#128
On September 19 2012 10:20 Lovedoll wrote:
Nobelesse going full Code B

Dark following suit by not just crushing Noblesse's silly armies. First he misses his chance to swarm 10 tanks, then the split armies.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 19 2012 01:25 GMT
#129
bad dark bad. why base trade waii
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
September 19 2012 01:27 GMT
#130
Who the hell is Dark? O.o.o.o.o.o
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 19 2012 01:27 GMT
#131
On September 19 2012 10:25 CeriseCherries wrote:
bad dark bad. why base trade waii


Why so sad? Noblesse doesn't know what a fifth base is.
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1674 Posts
September 19 2012 01:28 GMT
#132
So is Puzzle still playing SC2? or is this just an old replay? And Where the fuck is MMA/DRG
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States513 Posts
September 19 2012 01:28 GMT
#133
If dark wins this....
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 19 2012 01:28 GMT
#134
teamDRG without DRG...
moo...for DRG
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4391 Posts
September 19 2012 01:30 GMT
#135
Noblesse has just been sitting for so long. If he had kept base hunting or just decided to engage way earlier with well spread vikings I feel like he would have had this
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 19 2012 01:30 GMT
#136
Dark wins this, he could a-move this terran army GG
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 19 2012 01:30 GMT
#137
HOLY CRAP SOMEONE MAKE THIS GUY A FAN CLUB
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Liltwizzler
Profile Joined August 2011
United States78 Posts
September 19 2012 01:30 GMT
#138
Obviously neutral Banelings.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 19 2012 01:31 GMT
#139
Noblesse dropped the ball and the soap.
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Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
September 19 2012 01:31 GMT
#140
Those baneling mines... such sadness...
zestzorb
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand776 Posts
September 19 2012 01:31 GMT
#141
WTF with those baneling mine duds
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 19 2012 01:31 GMT
#142
AW YEAH SLAYERS DARK!
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 19 2012 01:31 GMT
#143
GG WP Dark. Slayers ftw!
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
September 19 2012 01:31 GMT
#144
..............wtf is Dark?
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 19 2012 01:32 GMT
#145
dark brings light
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bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 19 2012 01:33 GMT
#146
hehe those baneling duds. man at the end there, he could've made noblesse gg before the engagement if he detonated those banelings on the clumped up marines.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 19 2012 01:33 GMT
#147
Dark the hero of Slayers! not bad!
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Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
September 19 2012 01:36 GMT
#148
nobless not playing very well that game...
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Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 01:38:19
September 19 2012 01:37 GMT
#149
so many zerg bonjwas today
are you evolving?
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 19 2012 01:38 GMT
#150
Dark may be the new DRG of GSTL
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 01:41:02
September 19 2012 01:40 GMT
#151
On September 19 2012 10:38 MasterKang wrote:
Dark may be the new DRG of GSTL


Except for the part where Noblesse lost a won game. And the other part where Monster lost a won game.

But yeah, he's the new DRG.
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
September 19 2012 01:41 GMT
#152
Dat ace match.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
September 19 2012 01:41 GMT
#153
SLayers didnt use ryung/Genius, MVP didnt use DRG/Keen
Im almost under the impression they aren't fully trying to win and more trying to give exposure and experience.
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 19 2012 01:43 GMT
#154
On September 19 2012 10:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:38 MasterKang wrote:
Dark may be the new DRG of GSTL


Except for the part where Noblesse lost a won game. And the other part where Monster lost a won game.

But yeah, he's the new DRG.


since when was Monster ever about to win? lol. Noblesse did screw up though, but Dark at the same time denied drops, had amazing engagements, and just had ridiculous staying power throughout the game so you can't take that victory away from him at all. It was a long game, so one player's mistakes don't decide the game only
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 19 2012 01:43 GMT
#155
On September 19 2012 10:41 TAMinator wrote:
SLayers didnt use ryung/Genius, MVP didnt use DRG/Keen
Im almost under the impression they aren't fully trying to win and more trying to give exposure and experience.


No MMA or Sniper either.

It kinda seems that way huh ^_^ I don't have a problem with that I guess but it would have been nice to see the top players fight each other, was hoping for DRG vs MMA.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
September 19 2012 01:50 GMT
#156
On September 19 2012 10:43 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:38 MasterKang wrote:
Dark may be the new DRG of GSTL


Except for the part where Noblesse lost a won game. And the other part where Monster lost a won game.

But yeah, he's the new DRG.


since when was Monster ever about to win? lol. Noblesse did screw up though, but Dark at the same time denied drops, had amazing engagements, and just had ridiculous staying power throughout the game so you can't take that victory away from him at all. It was a long game, so one player's mistakes don't decide the game only

It's not as if either Monster or Noblesse are in Code S. Not exactly the best opponents to compare Dark to DRG.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 19 2012 01:53 GMT
#157
On September 19 2012 10:50 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:43 MasterKang wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:38 MasterKang wrote:
Dark may be the new DRG of GSTL


Except for the part where Noblesse lost a won game. And the other part where Monster lost a won game.

But yeah, he's the new DRG.


since when was Monster ever about to win? lol. Noblesse did screw up though, but Dark at the same time denied drops, had amazing engagements, and just had ridiculous staying power throughout the game so you can't take that victory away from him at all. It was a long game, so one player's mistakes don't decide the game only

It's not as if either Monster or Noblesse are in Code S. Not exactly the best opponents to compare Dark to DRG.


It was a joke, but you're actually pretty wrong on that. Although both are in Code B, Monster had a ridiculous run at some recent MLG where he destroyed plenty of Code S players and was finally stopped by Alicia I believe. So he's notorious for being one of the Code B monsters. Noblesse used to be a Code S mainstay, and his play was still Code A level at least. Not comparing Dark to DRG, just pointing out the beginnings of an unknown clutch team league player
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 02:03:39
September 19 2012 01:54 GMT
#158
On September 19 2012 10:43 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:38 MasterKang wrote:
Dark may be the new DRG of GSTL


Except for the part where Noblesse lost a won game. And the other part where Monster lost a won game.

But yeah, he's the new DRG.


since when was Monster ever about to win? lol. Noblesse did screw up though, but Dark at the same time denied drops, had amazing engagements, and just had ridiculous staying power throughout the game so you can't take that victory away from him at all. It was a long game, so one player's mistakes don't decide the game only


Monster won the game when he sniped the third and retained his mutalisks. He should've teched to infestors and made roach/infestor instead of being dumb and trying to end the game with pure roach. Paranoid almost lost to Sheth by doing the same thing, it's vomit-worthy.

Noblesse kills the natural hatchery and pulls back, takes his third and gets siege tech, pushes five minutes later and wins the game. What nonexistent tech will Dark summon to stop said push?

Of course Dark played well; he won those games while at a disadvantage. But he made few decisions besides defending needless aggression. Being clutch involves more than hoping your opponent will throw away his units.
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 19 2012 01:56 GMT
#159
On September 19 2012 10:50 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:43 MasterKang wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:38 MasterKang wrote:
Dark may be the new DRG of GSTL


Except for the part where Noblesse lost a won game. And the other part where Monster lost a won game.

But yeah, he's the new DRG.


since when was Monster ever about to win? lol. Noblesse did screw up though, but Dark at the same time denied drops, had amazing engagements, and just had ridiculous staying power throughout the game so you can't take that victory away from him at all. It was a long game, so one player's mistakes don't decide the game only

It's not as if either Monster or Noblesse are in Code S. Not exactly the best opponents to compare Dark to DRG.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Spring/Championship/ChampionshipBracket

Monster came from loser's bracket to beat Sheth, JYP, Dream, Ryung, and MC until he lost to Alicia 1-2
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 19 2012 02:02 GMT
#160
On September 19 2012 10:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:43 MasterKang wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:38 MasterKang wrote:
Dark may be the new DRG of GSTL


Except for the part where Noblesse lost a won game. And the other part where Monster lost a won game.

But yeah, he's the new DRG.


since when was Monster ever about to win? lol. Noblesse did screw up though, but Dark at the same time denied drops, had amazing engagements, and just had ridiculous staying power throughout the game so you can't take that victory away from him at all. It was a long game, so one player's mistakes don't decide the game only


Monster won the game when he sniped the third. He should've teched to infestors and made units instead of being dumb and trying to end the game with pure roach. Paranoid almost lost to Sheth by doing the same thing, it's vomit-worthy.

Noblesse kills the natural hatchery and pulls back, takes his third and gets siege tech, pushes five minutes later and wins the game. What nonexistent tech will Dark summon to stop said push?


Since when is sniping a 3rd base ever game-ending? Sure he sniped the third and gained an advantage, but he sacrificed a ton of larvae and money on making those lings in the first place. Those larvae and minerals replaced drones that were consequently not mining from monster's 3rd. The supplies were still even after the 3rd snipe, the only difference really was the extra production for monster since he hadn't saturated his own 3rd.

He had already been going muta when he was sniping the third. To suddenly switch into infestor just because he killed the 3rd would've been a retarded decision because his infestors would have been much later and the gas he spent on spire and banking for mutas would have gone to waste. He's a Code S level player, I would check the math before calling his play "vomit-worthy".

What? You realize how fast zerg recovers with the inject larvae mechanic when they're not attacked? The only thing stopping Dark from droning up back to 70 in a heartbeat was Noblesse's non-stop aggression. Sure he didn't control his army that well, but he didn't actually lose anything. He just picked up all his units as he rallied them across the map and simply forced Dark to keep making lings/blings instead of drones. What more use would his units have just sitting at home protecting a 3rd base that wasn't under pressure from Dark anyways?
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
September 19 2012 02:07 GMT
#161
I don't recall Noblesse ever being a Code S mainstay. He might have been in Code S at some point a long time ago, but that's it.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
September 19 2012 02:10 GMT
#162
On September 19 2012 10:56 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:50 Whatson wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:43 MasterKang wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:38 MasterKang wrote:
Dark may be the new DRG of GSTL


Except for the part where Noblesse lost a won game. And the other part where Monster lost a won game.

But yeah, he's the new DRG.


since when was Monster ever about to win? lol. Noblesse did screw up though, but Dark at the same time denied drops, had amazing engagements, and just had ridiculous staying power throughout the game so you can't take that victory away from him at all. It was a long game, so one player's mistakes don't decide the game only

It's not as if either Monster or Noblesse are in Code S. Not exactly the best opponents to compare Dark to DRG.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Spring/Championship/ChampionshipBracket

Monster came from loser's bracket to beat Sheth, JYP, Dream, Ryung, and MC until he lost to Alicia 1-2

Judging from your other responses I see that you're convinced that Dark will soon become another DRG...
Whatever, I'd rather not jump on the hype-train.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 19 2012 02:10 GMT
#163
On September 19 2012 10:41 TAMinator wrote:
SLayers didnt use ryung/Genius, MVP didnt use DRG/Keen
Im almost under the impression they aren't fully trying to win and more trying to give exposure and experience.


A lot of Korean teams do this. E.g. LG-IM is famous for doing this and have been quite successful. Now, if LG-IM sends out a Seed, Yonghwa, LosirA, First, Yoda line-up, we would feel they are sending some of their best. But if this was 6 months ago, we would claim that LG-IM wasn't trying. Teams need to get some of their lesser experience players some playing time and exposure.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 19 2012 02:18 GMT
#164
On September 19 2012 11:07 HolyArrow wrote:
I don't recall Noblesse ever being a Code S mainstay. He might have been in Code S at some point a long time ago, but that's it.


Yeah he wasn't. I think he was in Code S for 2 seasons and one of those seasons was in the group of death in the RO32 with MC, MVP, and Polt.

Funny (actually more sad than anything) how SlayerS wins without fielding any Terran and getting all their wins from zerg. Of course this has been a trend from them for a while but it still is weird every time it happens.

And were these games from a while ago? Because I find it odd that Puzzle played, thought he was on the verge of retirement.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 02:24:43
September 19 2012 02:19 GMT
#165
On September 19 2012 11:02 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:43 MasterKang wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:38 MasterKang wrote:
Dark may be the new DRG of GSTL


Except for the part where Noblesse lost a won game. And the other part where Monster lost a won game.

But yeah, he's the new DRG.


since when was Monster ever about to win? lol. Noblesse did screw up though, but Dark at the same time denied drops, had amazing engagements, and just had ridiculous staying power throughout the game so you can't take that victory away from him at all. It was a long game, so one player's mistakes don't decide the game only


Monster won the game when he sniped the third. He should've teched to infestors and made units instead of being dumb and trying to end the game with pure roach. Paranoid almost lost to Sheth by doing the same thing, it's vomit-worthy.

Noblesse kills the natural hatchery and pulls back, takes his third and gets siege tech, pushes five minutes later and wins the game. What nonexistent tech will Dark summon to stop said push?


Since when is sniping a 3rd base ever game-ending? Sure he sniped the third and gained an advantage, but he sacrificed a ton of larvae and money on making those lings in the first place. Those larvae and minerals replaced drones that were consequently not mining from monster's 3rd. The supplies were still even after the 3rd snipe, the only difference really was the extra production for monster since he hadn't saturated his own 3rd.

He had already been going muta when he was sniping the third. To suddenly switch into infestor just because he killed the 3rd would've been a retarded decision because his infestors would have been much later and the gas he spent on spire and banking for mutas would have gone to waste. He's a Code S level player, I would check the math before calling his play "vomit-worthy".

What? You realize how fast zerg recovers with the inject larvae mechanic when they're not attacked? The only thing stopping Dark from droning up back to 70 in a heartbeat was Noblesse's non-stop aggression. Sure he didn't control his army that well, but he didn't actually lose anything. He just picked up all his units as he rallied them across the map and simply forced Dark to keep making lings/blings instead of drones. What more use would his units have just sitting at home protecting a 3rd base that wasn't under pressure from Dark anyways?


It's pretty much game-ending in ZvZ when the loser of the fight does not respond with a large push of his own.

Mutalisks allow you to drone freely while retaining complete map control. Any good ZvZ player understands that mutalisks are a waste of money besides their initial advantages, so you abuse their air mobility while you move onto tech that works better in a large fight. You'll always have the advantage because of the third, which grants you the gas to make the tech switch safely. The fact that Monster didn't do that when nothing was stopping him is sad. He could've went on auto-pilot and won the game just from the extra income.

Monster has never been a Code S level player. He has merely being a very good player with amazing macro. His micro remains poor; he still runs banelings into tanks as a habit. His unit compositions and tech transitions have always been simplistic. His decision-making is okay.

Yeah, Dark is going to drone back up to 70 workers! Without any queens! On two base! And he'll totally go to infestors during all that time and hold off a later marine-tank push easy peasy! And it's not like Noblesse lost units needlessly and gave his opponent time to rebuild his economy!
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RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
September 19 2012 02:32 GMT
#166
Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 19 2012 02:58 GMT
#167
Glad to see CoCa play!
Disappointed I missed "Dark" play. Im always interested in watching players who I don't see often.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 19 2012 03:07 GMT
#168
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently.


yes what an awesome player. immortal sentries all ins makes one the a breakout player
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 19 2012 03:16 GMT
#169
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently.


I always wish good things for finale, since he has had to deal with quite a lot of shit at a young age.

+ Show Spoiler +
He was basically sexually harassed by Werra's captain back in 2010 as a minor. This led to Werra's disbandment. Sad story
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Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
September 19 2012 03:28 GMT
#170
SLAYERS FIGHTING <3
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 19 2012 06:29 GMT
#171
On September 19 2012 12:07 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently.


yes what an awesome player. immortal sentries all ins makes one the a breakout player

might be the new heart man
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 19 2012 06:38 GMT
#172
On September 19 2012 12:16 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently.


I always wish good things for finale, since he has had to deal with quite a lot of shit at a young age.

+ Show Spoiler +
He was basically sexually harassed by Werra's captain back in 2010 as a minor. This led to Werra's disbandment. Sad story


lol, afaik werra's captain sexually harassed someone else.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36999 Posts
September 19 2012 06:41 GMT
#173
WTF

WHERE DID DARK COME FROM!?!?!
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
September 19 2012 06:42 GMT
#174
On September 19 2012 12:16 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently.


I always wish good things for finale, since he has had to deal with quite a lot of shit at a young age.

+ Show Spoiler +
He was basically sexually harassed by Werra's captain back in 2010 as a minor. This led to Werra's disbandment. Sad story


Pretty sure that wasn't finale. I don't think whoever that is still plays anymore =/
Been a long time since it happened, I honestly have forgotten the player.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 06:43:47
September 19 2012 06:43 GMT
#175
On September 19 2012 15:38 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 12:16 Bagration wrote:
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently.


I always wish good things for finale, since he has had to deal with quite a lot of shit at a young age.

+ Show Spoiler +
He was basically sexually harassed by Werra's captain back in 2010 as a minor. This led to Werra's disbandment. Sad story


lol, afaik werra's captain sexually harassed someone else.


On September 19 2012 15:42 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 12:16 Bagration wrote:
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently.


I always wish good things for finale, since he has had to deal with quite a lot of shit at a young age.

+ Show Spoiler +
He was basically sexually harassed by Werra's captain back in 2010 as a minor. This led to Werra's disbandment. Sad story


Pretty sure that wasn't finale. I don't think whoever that is still plays anymore =/
Been a long time since it happened, I honestly have forgotten the player.


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1982_finale
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163268

it was finale (aka loverip)
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 06:47:00
September 19 2012 06:46 GMT
#176
On September 19 2012 15:38 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 12:16 Bagration wrote:
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently.


I always wish good things for finale, since he has had to deal with quite a lot of shit at a young age.

+ Show Spoiler +
He was basically sexually harassed by Werra's captain back in 2010 as a minor. This led to Werra's disbandment. Sad story


lol, afaik werra's captain sexually harassed someone else.


This article clearly states that it was LoveRip who was molested: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163268

Finale's page clearly shows that an alternate ID of his was LoveRip: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Finale

Furthermore, clicking on "LoveRip" on the WeRRa page on Liquipedia clearly leads to Finale's page: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/WeRRa

Definitely was finale.

Edit: damn, opterown beat me to the punch
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 06:50:47
September 19 2012 06:49 GMT
#177
On September 19 2012 15:43 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 15:38 X3GoldDot wrote:
On September 19 2012 12:16 Bagration wrote:
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently.


I always wish good things for finale, since he has had to deal with quite a lot of shit at a young age.

+ Show Spoiler +
He was basically sexually harassed by Werra's captain back in 2010 as a minor. This led to Werra's disbandment. Sad story


lol, afaik werra's captain sexually harassed someone else.


Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 15:42 bittman wrote:
On September 19 2012 12:16 Bagration wrote:
On September 19 2012 11:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
Finale beating Coca and Jaedong recently, hmm, I think we might see more of him. I haven't seen the games though, so I can't really say much. I'm glad SlayerS won, though I would have preferred a 5-X in which X isn't a 4. I guess it gives more exposure to the lesser SlayerS players since their iconic players haven't been faring so well recently.


I always wish good things for finale, since he has had to deal with quite a lot of shit at a young age.

+ Show Spoiler +
He was basically sexually harassed by Werra's captain back in 2010 as a minor. This led to Werra's disbandment. Sad story


Pretty sure that wasn't finale. I don't think whoever that is still plays anymore =/
Been a long time since it happened, I honestly have forgotten the player.


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1982_finale
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163268

it was finale (aka loverip)


Wow....the more you know. Well he's doing pretty well now since he seems to be the current protoss 'ace' of MVP. Still a lot of improvement required, but he's been doing decently in team leagues for a bit now. And qualified for Code A in a more difficult fashion than the already difficult qualifiers hehe.
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