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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
September 13 2012 11:24 GMT
#781
On September 13 2012 20:21 Soyuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:20 Infernal Knight wrote:
I don't see why anyone likes to play mech in TvT. As much as I like to watch it, it's got to be infuriating to just lose your whole army to MMM the first time you make a mistake, and the time frame for mistake making is huge because of how slow mech is. >.>


I think Mech is actually favoured on certain maps, but I don't think Cloud Kingdom is one of them.


Well, if the game goes in your favor you get into a position that puts your opponent under immense pressure. And it's very satisfying to see a 200/200 bio army get shred into pieces in just a few seconds if your opponent can't deal with the pressure and gets impatient.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 13 2012 11:24 GMT
#782
On September 13 2012 20:23 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:22 Soyuz wrote:
I think the GSL should have some Arena of Terrans side tournament where they invite all the top terrans and play. TvT is actually that entertaining.


I think they already had that last year it was called the team ace invitational or something.

that was pretty well split by races though

IPL Tournament of Champions is what we're looking for ;D
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
September 13 2012 11:24 GMT
#783
On September 13 2012 20:22 Soyuz wrote:
I think the GSL should have some Arena of Terrans side tournament where they invite all the top terrans and play. TvT is actually that entertaining.

I think Take organised something like this.
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 13 2012 11:24 GMT
#784
On September 13 2012 20:22 Infernal Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:20 Infernal Knight wrote:
I don't see why anyone likes to play mech in TvT. As much as I like to watch it, it's got to be infuriating to just lose your whole army to MMM the first time you make a mistake, and the time frame for mistake making is huge because of how slow mech is. >.>


Because the joy of watching Bio get obliterated by siege tanks in a good position in indescribable.


I'm sure it is, but I feel like I see Marauders run in and own tanks far more often than I see the reverse. Just my perception though.


It is really frustrating, but lately we've seen much more solid mech play than say 6 months ago. It does take so much skill to play it well.
Personally I think it's fun that people are still using all different kinds of styles in tvt. Makes for really interesting matches
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 11:25:08
September 13 2012 11:24 GMT
#785
On September 13 2012 20:23 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:22 Soyuz wrote:
I think the GSL should have some Arena of Terrans side tournament where they invite all the top terrans and play. TvT is actually that entertaining.


they should have an actual arena of terrans/protoss/zerg side tournament lol, its a great idea in fact.

yea a whole tournament of straight mirror match ups. I dont think i could be paid to watch the whole thing. lol
#TheOneTrueDong
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 13 2012 11:25 GMT
#786
On September 13 2012 20:22 Soyuz wrote:
I think the GSL should have some Arena of Terrans side tournament where they invite all the top terrans and play. TvT is actually that entertaining.


We'll call it....GSL 2011 :D
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3366 Posts
September 13 2012 11:25 GMT
#787
On September 13 2012 20:21 Yello wrote:
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On September 13 2012 20:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Enjoy this kind of TvT, the warhound will not let it happen anymore.


I don't think Blizz will keep the warhound the way it is now. They got so much negative feedback on it and even said that they are discussing the issue.
They just can't keep the warhound in the game like this. That would be suicide for Blizzard.

The tank-line breaker role will likely stay and may even get better.
The complains are mostly from protoss and people demanding it be turned into a goliath.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 13 2012 11:25 GMT
#788
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IPL_Tournament_of_Champions
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 13 2012 11:25 GMT
#789
On September 13 2012 20:24 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:23 Dodgin wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:22 Soyuz wrote:
I think the GSL should have some Arena of Terrans side tournament where they invite all the top terrans and play. TvT is actually that entertaining.


I think they already had that last year it was called the team ace invitational or something.

that was pretty well split by races though

IPL Tournament of Champions is what we're looking for ;D


oh you're right, hmm...I think it was WCG korea 2011 that had a ton of TvT then maybe.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
September 13 2012 11:25 GMT
#790
On September 13 2012 20:22 Infernal Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:20 Infernal Knight wrote:
I don't see why anyone likes to play mech in TvT. As much as I like to watch it, it's got to be infuriating to just lose your whole army to MMM the first time you make a mistake, and the time frame for mistake making is huge because of how slow mech is. >.>


Because the joy of watching Bio get obliterated by siege tanks in a good position in indescribable.


I'm sure it is, but I feel like I see Marauders run in and own tanks far more often than I see the reverse. Just my perception though.


You don't often get to appreciate it because it is so subtle.

But Polt is actually a MASTER at assaulting tank lines. He forces initial volleys on individual units and then splits his bio forces to minimize damage being taken by Siege Tanks.

Take the same army supply, upgrades, and positions and put another player in Polt's place and you'll see bio lose a ton of its cost effectiveness. Polt's ability to assault into siege tank lines is truly incredible and its something I don't see matched by a lot of other Korean Terrans.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 13 2012 11:26 GMT
#791
On September 13 2012 20:25 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:24 opterown wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:23 Dodgin wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:22 Soyuz wrote:
I think the GSL should have some Arena of Terrans side tournament where they invite all the top terrans and play. TvT is actually that entertaining.


I think they already had that last year it was called the team ace invitational or something.

that was pretty well split by races though

IPL Tournament of Champions is what we're looking for ;D


oh you're right, hmm...I think it was WCG korea 2011 that had a ton of TvT then maybe.

WCG KR 2012 is pretty terran heavy haha
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Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
September 13 2012 11:26 GMT
#792
On September 13 2012 20:22 Infernal Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:20 Infernal Knight wrote:
I don't see why anyone likes to play mech in TvT. As much as I like to watch it, it's got to be infuriating to just lose your whole army to MMM the first time you make a mistake, and the time frame for mistake making is huge because of how slow mech is. >.>


Because the joy of watching Bio get obliterated by siege tanks in a good position in indescribable.


I'm sure it is, but I feel like I see Marauders run in and own tanks far more often than I see the reverse. Just my perception though.

Maybe I'm just biased because I want to see stupid Marauders get crapped on by tank fire, but it feels like I don't see it almost ever.


then you should follow Mvp. You will see a lot of sad marauders.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 11:26:45
September 13 2012 11:26 GMT
#793
On September 13 2012 20:24 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:22 Soyuz wrote:
I think the GSL should have some Arena of Terrans side tournament where they invite all the top terrans and play. TvT is actually that entertaining.

I think Take organised something like this.

Yep, http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Stim_to_the_Win_Tournament
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 13 2012 11:27 GMT
#794
On September 13 2012 20:23 nkr wrote:
song? <3


Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 13 2012 11:27 GMT
#795
On September 13 2012 20:26 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:24 opterown wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:23 Dodgin wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:22 Soyuz wrote:
I think the GSL should have some Arena of Terrans side tournament where they invite all the top terrans and play. TvT is actually that entertaining.


I think they already had that last year it was called the team ace invitational or something.

that was pretty well split by races though

IPL Tournament of Champions is what we're looking for ;D


oh you're right, hmm...I think it was WCG korea 2011 that had a ton of TvT then maybe.

WCG KR 2012 is pretty terran heavy haha


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2011/Qualifiers/Korea

dat top 8
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 13 2012 11:28 GMT
#796
On September 13 2012 20:27 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:26 opterown wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:24 opterown wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:23 Dodgin wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:22 Soyuz wrote:
I think the GSL should have some Arena of Terrans side tournament where they invite all the top terrans and play. TvT is actually that entertaining.


I think they already had that last year it was called the team ace invitational or something.

that was pretty well split by races though

IPL Tournament of Champions is what we're looking for ;D


oh you're right, hmm...I think it was WCG korea 2011 that had a ton of TvT then maybe.

WCG KR 2012 is pretty terran heavy haha


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2011/Qualifiers/Korea

dat top 8


Poor MKP
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 13 2012 11:29 GMT
#797
On September 13 2012 20:24 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:22 Infernal Knight wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:20 Infernal Knight wrote:
I don't see why anyone likes to play mech in TvT. As much as I like to watch it, it's got to be infuriating to just lose your whole army to MMM the first time you make a mistake, and the time frame for mistake making is huge because of how slow mech is. >.>


Because the joy of watching Bio get obliterated by siege tanks in a good position in indescribable.


I'm sure it is, but I feel like I see Marauders run in and own tanks far more often than I see the reverse. Just my perception though.


It is really frustrating, but lately we've seen much more solid mech play than say 6 months ago. It does take so much skill to play it well.
Personally I think it's fun that people are still using all different kinds of styles in tvt. Makes for really interesting matches


it really depends on maps as well. Maps have gotten bigger so mech gets a lot tougher. Imagine trying to mech on Whirlwind in an even game?
Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
September 13 2012 11:29 GMT
#798
On September 13 2012 20:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:22 Infernal Knight wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:20 Infernal Knight wrote:
I don't see why anyone likes to play mech in TvT. As much as I like to watch it, it's got to be infuriating to just lose your whole army to MMM the first time you make a mistake, and the time frame for mistake making is huge because of how slow mech is. >.>


Because the joy of watching Bio get obliterated by siege tanks in a good position in indescribable.


I'm sure it is, but I feel like I see Marauders run in and own tanks far more often than I see the reverse. Just my perception though.


You don't often get to appreciate it because it is so subtle.

But Polt is actually a MASTER at assaulting tank lines. He forces initial volleys on individual units and then splits his bio forces to minimize damage being taken by Siege Tanks.

Take the same army supply, upgrades, and positions and put another player in Polt's place and you'll see bio lose a ton of its cost effectiveness. Polt's ability to assault into siege tank lines is truly incredible and its something I don't see matched by a lot of other Korean Terrans.


I do get what you guys are saying, and I know that the idea is that the slow, unforgiving mech army is supposed to be an unbreakable juggernaught when put in the right hand. I really, really do want to see mech crap all over bio (I'm biased) but it seems like in the GSL at least you very rarely see that. Maybe I'm just not remembering properly, but it feels like the win rate for bio versus mech is tilted far in favor of the former.

I suppose it also depends on where you count Marine/Tank though.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 11:30:02
September 13 2012 11:29 GMT
#799
On September 13 2012 20:28 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 20:27 Dodgin wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:26 opterown wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:24 opterown wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:23 Dodgin wrote:
On September 13 2012 20:22 Soyuz wrote:
I think the GSL should have some Arena of Terrans side tournament where they invite all the top terrans and play. TvT is actually that entertaining.


I think they already had that last year it was called the team ace invitational or something.

that was pretty well split by races though

IPL Tournament of Champions is what we're looking for ;D


oh you're right, hmm...I think it was WCG korea 2011 that had a ton of TvT then maybe.

WCG KR 2012 is pretty terran heavy haha


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2011/Qualifiers/Korea

dat top 8


Poor MKP

he did end up doing pretty well there though, haha

MKP now has the best tvt in the world (if a bit unconventional).
trimaster you can sit down.
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 11:30:00
September 13 2012 11:29 GMT
#800
DRG does speak English pretty well too actually. He just thinks he doesnt and thinks he will embarrass himself so he chooses not to use it.
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