EPT[Code S] RO32 Group G 2012 GSL Season 4 - Page 31
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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jackdaleaper
Philippines1216 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:07 DJHelium wrote: Cool game. Think JYP could've just won easy with a chargelot/archon/high templar timing. Something like 8-10 gates, attacking before Life gets his third. I agree, but I guess seing Life staying on 2 bases confused him and it was all downhill from there. | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7967 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:08 TheDwf wrote: Is there any way to “punish” 2-bases Infests in PvZ? play defensive, make collussus and take delayed 3rd | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:08 TheDwf wrote: Is there any way to “punish” 2-bases Infests in PvZ? Chargelot/Archon. *edit* Or colossus obv! | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:08 TheDwf wrote: Is there any way to “punish” 2-bases Infests in PvZ? Colossus makes it look stupid. | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:08 TheDwf wrote: Is there any way to “punish” 2-bases Infests in PvZ? Robo > obs, scout it > colossus expand would give you a pretty huge advantage so long as you held the timing. | ||
Waxangel
United States33079 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:07 DJHelium wrote: Cool game. Think JYP could've just won easy with a chargelot/archon/high templar timing. Something like 8-10 gates, attacking before Life gets his third. Yeah I actually thought Jyp had nice tech to deal with ling/infestor, but it didn't go as well as i thought ;d | ||
Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
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Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:02 IshinShishi wrote: I fail to see your point in discussing the semantics of the word astray when it's pretty clear in the context I used that astray hts means that they had no back up , I also don't think I used the word incorrectly, units being off path or away from the main army doesn't mean that they have been forgotten, at all. Also, the bad ht control was just one of the points, Jyp also took bases without proper defence, left his colossi unprotected at multiple points, etc. Supernova just managed to play worse. + Show Spoiler + I thought you were trying to imply that he somehow lost some HTs throughout the game and managed to get a lot of lucky breaks with them. Fair enough. But while in general you want HTs backed up by your ball, when you're harassing with HTs (for example at Nova's 4th), or flanking (happened several times), you can't exactly back them up. Sometimes you shouldn't even back them up - why let Nova kill 10% of your army that's backing up a single HT if it gets found when instead you can have your worst scenario (lone HTs being found) be a single HT being lost? Note that JYP didn't even have High TemplarS astray, a lot of times it was just one HT, at most two IIRC. Other times they were totally with the rest of the ball, unless attempting to go ahead to 'back ghosts counts as "astray". A lot of players take bases without proper defence, and a lot of times it pays off. The fact that he had to lose so many bases is a bit worrying but he also managed to keep his cool (think about G1 as well). It wasn't that JYP had a perfect game, but you're making it look way worse than it actually was. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33079 Posts
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Lambertus
South Africa962 Posts
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jackdaleaper
Philippines1216 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38149 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Tsubbi
Germany7967 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:11 Asha` wrote: sigh, Life don't you dare fucking die to this its entombed, just skip to 3rd game | ||
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xgtx
227 Posts
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:10 AxionSteel wrote: Yeah I actually thought Jyp had nice tech to deal with ling/infestor, but it didn't go as well as i thought ;d Ling/infestor transitions really naturally into roach/infestor in the midgame, which is pretty much the ideal composition against chargelot/archon. A chargelot/archon timing could work, but it's a huge gamble, and would rely on the zerg not scouting/countering it more than any particular execution from the P (the only important thing being to hide the impending timing). | ||
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