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Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
August 29 2012 12:01 GMT
#1661
On August 29 2012 20:55 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:51 iky43210 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:49 GreggSauce wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Serinox wrote:
Yeah, two Bo1 TvP have now decided that KeSPA will definitly take over. Sometimes people are really stupid o.O


or you're slightly more delusional.

have you not followed anything thats going on?

they've only been playing for months now against people who the metagame is based around


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea

you can cry yourself to sleep when things are proven once again when we see who advances in round of 16


And what would be a victory for ESF fans? Splitting 50/50 with KeSPA players would just be more evidence proving the elephant right.

To reinforce this, 7 out of 32 players were Kespa players. That's 21.875%
In the top 10, there were 3 Kespa players. That's 30.00%

Kespa players were overrepresented in the top 10 given the amount of Kespa players that entered.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
August 29 2012 12:01 GMT
#1662
Really funny thread.
Hope BeSt loses though, I mean... it's BeSt.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
August 29 2012 12:01 GMT
#1663
On August 29 2012 21:00 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 21:00 WArped wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:59 zenkicker wrote:
MC showing who's the BeSt protoss?

Isn't MC 2nd BeSt PvP in the world?

his PvP is fairly mediocre tbh

seed made it look mediocre it's true
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 29 2012 12:01 GMT
#1664
Hopefully BeSt > TheBest
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
August 29 2012 12:01 GMT
#1665
On August 29 2012 20:58 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:57 J1.au wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:54 Lonyo wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:53 WArped wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 Fusilero wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, PirateTerran, MoustacheTerran and LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

It's his weakest match-up.

Flash has a weakest matchup too. Doesn't make him bad at it.

What match-up is his weakest?


vP

That's pretty funny.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1666
best is a beast you guys should bow down
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1667
On August 29 2012 20:59 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:58 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:56 AxionSteel wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:53 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, MKP, Mvp, Gumiho, Byun.

ByuN? Hardly. Gumi is a nice player but I wouldn't say he's great at TvP, but he is good. Mvp's relies on mind games and killing them before storm imo. I've never seen him deal well in a late game scenario vs templars apart from that specific game on Metropolis against squirtle where he could camp to BC's.
MKP's is still the best imo. (of ESF players anyway )



Byun is definitely great at TvP, not quite sure why you would say he isn't. Remember, he got to the ro4 by beating basically only code S level protoss and lost 2-3 to the eventual winner of the entire GSL.

he "should" have beaten seed too, prime players need antichoke buff


Shoulda coulda woulda. Seed played out game 4 absolutely perfectly and even as the biggest Byun fanboy in the universe i can't give seed anything but praise for how he played out that series.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1668
On August 29 2012 21:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Hopefully BeSt > TheBest

Why didn't TheBest qualify for the OSL to have this match, same with first so we can have first vs last.
Glorious SEA doto
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1669
On August 29 2012 21:01 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:58 vthree wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:57 J1.au wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:54 Lonyo wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:53 WArped wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 Fusilero wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, PirateTerran, MoustacheTerran and LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

It's his weakest match-up.

Flash has a weakest matchup too. Doesn't make him bad at it.

What match-up is his weakest?


vP

That's pretty funny.


well, statistically it is his weakest.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1670
On August 29 2012 21:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Hopefully BeSt > TheBest

Hopefully he is just as awful.
6NR
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1472 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1671
A lot depends on this game.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1672
On August 29 2012 21:00 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:58 Embir wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:56 setzer wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:54 Embir wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 Fusilero wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, PirateTerran, MoustacheTerran and LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe


I thought Taeja = LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe?

Anyways - BO 1 format is pathetic, there is no way for preparation or clever strategies, mind games - it is just like one ladder match.

P.S. Also BW idiot fanbois are fucking irritating in this thread.


So are people like you who have been here for a total of 5 seconds and think they know better than OGN on how to format their tournament.


And you are BW idiot I was talking about.

What is "BW idiot"?

People that can deal with KeSPA players winning over ESF players.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1673
Wow, I can't wait to watch the first match of the night. Can't believe that + Show Spoiler +
Rain beat MKP
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1674
On August 29 2012 20:58 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:56 AxionSteel wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:53 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, MKP, Mvp, Gumiho, Byun.

ByuN? Hardly. Gumi is a nice player but I wouldn't say he's great at TvP, but he is good. Mvp's relies on mind games and killing them before storm imo. I've never seen him deal well in a late game scenario vs templars apart from that specific game on Metropolis against squirtle where he could camp to BC's.
MKP's is still the best imo. (of ESF players anyway )



Byun is definitely great at TvP, not quite sure why you would say he isn't. Remember, he got to the ro4 by beating basically only code S level protoss and lost 2-3 to the eventual winner of the entire GSL.

I definitely wouldn't say great. he played pretty badly in that particular series in my opinion, SeeD also didn't play at his best. He's got nice early game builds, but is far from solid overall.
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1675
On August 29 2012 21:00 Coolhwip wrote:
OZ playing last? Or has the liquipedia failed to update?

Oz will play another day because his flight got delayed due to typhoon
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1676
So it's kespa vs esf fans now?

Sigh...
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#1677
On August 29 2012 21:02 oneofthem wrote:
best is a beast you guys should bow down

If it goes to a late game his macro is Flash-esque!
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
August 29 2012 12:03 GMT
#1678

On August 29 2012 20:56 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:54 Embir wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 Fusilero wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, PirateTerran, MoustacheTerran and LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe


I thought Taeja = LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe?

Anyways - BO 1 format is pathetic, there is no way for preparation or clever strategies, mind games - it is just like one ladder match.

P.S. Also BW idiot fanbois are fucking irritating in this thread.


So are people like you who have been here for a total of 5 seconds and think they know better than OGN on how to format their tournament.


Just because they've used it for ages doesn't make it good.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2012 12:03 GMT
#1679
On August 29 2012 21:02 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:59 opterown wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:58 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:56 AxionSteel wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:53 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, MKP, Mvp, Gumiho, Byun.

ByuN? Hardly. Gumi is a nice player but I wouldn't say he's great at TvP, but he is good. Mvp's relies on mind games and killing them before storm imo. I've never seen him deal well in a late game scenario vs templars apart from that specific game on Metropolis against squirtle where he could camp to BC's.
MKP's is still the best imo. (of ESF players anyway )



Byun is definitely great at TvP, not quite sure why you would say he isn't. Remember, he got to the ro4 by beating basically only code S level protoss and lost 2-3 to the eventual winner of the entire GSL.

he "should" have beaten seed too, prime players need antichoke buff


Shoulda coulda woulda. Seed played out game 4 absolutely perfectly and even as the biggest Byun fanboy in the universe i can't give seed anything but praise for how he played out that series.

I challenge you for the title of bigger Byun fanboy. Seed should get credit for not shaking in the face of byun's off kilter style compared to other protosses but that SCV pull physically hurts me whenever I think of it.
Glorious SEA doto
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
August 29 2012 12:03 GMT
#1680
I can promise you, the Boss Toss will not fail!!!

MC for President~
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
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