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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 11:58:11
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1621
On August 29 2012 20:55 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:54 Ysellian wrote:
Fucking hell. I kinda expected MKP to lose, but MVP? He's pretty much knocked out of this tournament already, no way MVP is beating Parting.

he did it 2 gsl ago


FFS you are right! Thanks For some reason I though it was OZ who he beat. At least I still have some hope left.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1622
On August 29 2012 20:56 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:53 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, MKP, Mvp, Gumiho, Byun.

ByuN? Hardly. Gumi is a nice player but I wouldn't say he's great at TvP, but he is good. Mvp's relies on mind games and killing them before storm imo. I've never seen him deal well in a late game scenario vs templars apart from that specific game on Metropolis against squirtle where he could camp to BC's.
MKP's is still the best imo. (of ESF players anyway )



Byun is definitely great at TvP, not quite sure why you would say he isn't. Remember, he got to the ro4 by beating basically only code S level protoss and lost 2-3 to the eventual winner of the entire GSL.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1623
On August 29 2012 20:56 Loxley wrote:
Do it MC!

[image loading]

Bosstoss it out!
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Atheist
Profile Joined December 2011
186 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1624
that was a sick game by flying
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1625
On August 29 2012 20:57 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:52 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 StormIsAJoke wrote:
LIVE REPORT UPDATE: Get Storms and win your games with smart-casting and get 20 DPS every 2 seconds with nice 50/150 and 2 supply unit. Literally a fucking joke, insane that the ability is not nerfed to shit. I'm going to neck myself out of this disappointment. inb4 b&. #RIPSC2


5 posts and one of them is trash, I guess its goodbye for you on Teamliquid. Also Terran has EMP.


Dude, that guy is a baiter. Don't mind him.

It has been taken care of.

MC, probably one of the few GSL champs I want to cheer for compared to the old BW pros. Go go ^^
Moderator
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1626
On August 29 2012 20:57 6NR wrote:
Kespa must be confident about GSL4 already

Bo3 It counts
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
6NR
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1472 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1627
Best vs. MC!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1628
mkp still has a >75% tvp, which, while not as good as his >85% at the beginning of this year, is still by far the highest TvP winrate of any player
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1629
On August 29 2012 20:57 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:54 Lonyo wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:53 WArped wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 Fusilero wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, PirateTerran, MoustacheTerran and LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

It's his weakest match-up.

Flash has a weakest matchup too. Doesn't make him bad at it.

What match-up is his weakest?


vP
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1630
On August 29 2012 20:56 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:54 Embir wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 Fusilero wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, PirateTerran, MoustacheTerran and LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe


I thought Taeja = LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe?

Anyways - BO 1 format is pathetic, there is no way for preparation or clever strategies, mind games - it is just like one ladder match.

P.S. Also BW idiot fanbois are fucking irritating in this thread.


So are people like you who have been here for a total of 5 seconds and think they know better than OGN on how to format their tournament.


And you are BW idiot I was talking about.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1631
On August 29 2012 20:51 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja pretty much rules TvP


Whenever I see Taeja lose, he loses to protoss. Look at TSL4, last MLG etc.

He is great in TvZ but I wouldn't call him a great TvP-er.

However, dealing with protoss who has colossus, archons, storm and chargelots is very hard and it is easy to screw something up. And since bio focused army is basically hard countered by that protoss army if you make even one mistake the fight will be one sided.

Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1632
On August 29 2012 20:58 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:56 AxionSteel wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:53 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, MKP, Mvp, Gumiho, Byun.

ByuN? Hardly. Gumi is a nice player but I wouldn't say he's great at TvP, but he is good. Mvp's relies on mind games and killing them before storm imo. I've never seen him deal well in a late game scenario vs templars apart from that specific game on Metropolis against squirtle where he could camp to BC's.
MKP's is still the best imo. (of ESF players anyway )



Byun is definitely great at TvP, not quite sure why you would say he isn't. Remember, he got to the ro4 by beating basically only code S level protoss and lost 2-3 to the eventual winner of the entire GSL.

Well his TvP is off balance, he can look poor when his funky builds and styles don't work out but he definitely is much more successful with his approach than most terrans.
Glorious SEA doto
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1633
MC is such a boss. LOL!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#1634
Now it's up to the BossToss to save the dignity of ESF. Gogo MCCCCCCCCCC!
Get off my lawn, young punks
zenkicker
Profile Joined December 2008
257 Posts
August 29 2012 11:59 GMT
#1635
MC showing who's the BeSt protoss?
I you cant beat them, join them.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 29 2012 11:59 GMT
#1636
I like Moletrap and his casting style.

Don't care that he doesn't catch everything all the time and i love that he doesn't try to predict everything like some of these ''acclaimed'' casters. Leave that to pro players that cast like a Grubby.

Also OSL rocks, finally a tournament worth watching again.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
August 29 2012 11:59 GMT
#1637
so i heard u cant warp high ground in hots ?
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 29 2012 11:59 GMT
#1638
On August 29 2012 20:57 Atheist wrote:
I dont understand people still denying KeSPA talent.


Because people hate change bro, MVP, MKP, Nestea these were all old dominant players, people just cant get over they are yesterdays news
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 29 2012 11:59 GMT
#1639
On August 29 2012 20:58 opterown wrote:
mkp still has a >75% tvp, which, while not as good as his >85% at the beginning of this year, is still by far the highest TvP winrate of any player


In fact he had won that game but he just throwed it away so hard.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 29 2012 11:59 GMT
#1640
On August 29 2012 20:58 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:56 AxionSteel wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:53 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, MKP, Mvp, Gumiho, Byun.

ByuN? Hardly. Gumi is a nice player but I wouldn't say he's great at TvP, but he is good. Mvp's relies on mind games and killing them before storm imo. I've never seen him deal well in a late game scenario vs templars apart from that specific game on Metropolis against squirtle where he could camp to BC's.
MKP's is still the best imo. (of ESF players anyway )



Byun is definitely great at TvP, not quite sure why you would say he isn't. Remember, he got to the ro4 by beating basically only code S level protoss and lost 2-3 to the eventual winner of the entire GSL.

he "should" have beaten seed too, prime players need antichoke buff
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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